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Title: I don't want to move....
Post by: BEG on July 24, 2009, 11:44:31 AM
I'm depressed sitting around my Mom's house all day.  We have been here since last Tuesday when the movers finished packing all of our stuff.  I'm surrounded by a ton of crap that we had to keep out of the stuff the movers took because we wont be moving into our new house until the end of August and we kept stuff we might need in the next month.  There is no where to put anything and we are living on top of each other.  My Mom wont let me do anything.  Every time I start to do a load of laundry or cook she takes over.  All I do all day is sit on the couch.  Everyone is always on the computer, in fact this is the first time I have sat down at it.  Every time you see me on CC I'm on my phone not the computer.  Yesterday I resorted to watching MAURY POVICH for two hours....I'm that bored. 

So my friend txt me yesterday (her husband works for my husband).  You apparently have to pay State taxes AGAIN on any car under a year old when you bring it into California.  We bought my car a year ago in October.  I am so sick of taxes I want to scream.  We pay 25% fed, we will pay 9.3% CA state, our property taxes will triple (not the percentage but the total dollar amount will because housing is three times what it is in Texas).  Add to that all the other taxes and I want to punch someone....bad.

I was secretly hoping that the house we are going to buy wouldn't appraise.  I started thinking that we should rent and my husband work at this job for the two years he has to to be able to keep his mobility bonus and then maybe the economy would be getting a little better and he could get a new job in a different state.  Thwn we wouldn't have to mess with having to sell the new house and be able to just walk away.  BUT the appraisal came back yesterday and it appraised for a little more than what we are paying for it so we can't walk away from the house or we will lose the $10k earnest money we put down.   Don't get me wrong, I really like the new house (the 1949 yellow house for those of you who saw the pictures) but I don't want to live in California.  I'm seriously depressed just thinking about it. 

We leave next week for CA.  We are staying in executive housing (read the Residence Inn) around where my husband will be working for about a month.  Fun when you have two dogs that don't walk well on a leash and you have to take them outside to go pee several times a day.  On a glass 1/2 full thought, maybe they will get better with walking on a leash by taking them out several times a day for a pee break.

I didn't post this in the crying forum because I realize that there are a lot bigger problems I could have and I am grateful that my husband has a job and we will have a roof over our head.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Texacon on July 24, 2009, 11:50:25 AM
I'm sorry for you BEG.  Hopefully all will go smoothly and you will settle in nicely but not make any good friends so you won't miss them when you come BACK TO TEXAS!

KC
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Carl on July 24, 2009, 11:54:48 AM
Sorry BEG for the turmoil of this.

Hope that eventually this will prove to be a good thing but for now sending HUGS!
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: DixieBelle on July 24, 2009, 12:16:26 PM
Hang in there hon. It's really hard to be in someone else's house on top of having to relocate. It's like insult to injury because you are displaced for the time being. We had to do the same thing once and it stinks. Any of one of the things you mentioned would be enough to stress anyone out.

Once you're settled and on the way to getting into a routine in CA, it will ease up. Just know we're all here for you. That's the great thing about this place. You don't have to leave us behind or pack us in a box to take with you. You just log on to the internet!
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: NHSparky on July 24, 2009, 01:23:31 PM
Don't worry, it's not wildfire season in CA.

YET.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: debk on July 24, 2009, 01:37:12 PM
Don't worry, it's not wildfire season in CA.

YET.

 :hammer:

Geesh....upset her more, why don't you? You ARE such a guy!! ( :tongue:)

Look at it this way, BEG....it will take you two years to see all the "sights" in CA....think of it as a two year vacation....and vacations are never cheap! :uhsure:

<<<<hugs>>>>
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: vesta111 on July 24, 2009, 02:34:16 PM
Sorry BEG for the turmoil of this.

Hope that eventually this will prove to be a good thing but for now sending HUGS!

Yah me too, as an ex-services mans wife with 4 kids and no idea where we would be sent next I really feel your pain.

What next port of call will we be going to, what, we have 6 weeks to pack up and move, can we take our pets, what kind of place is this,---before computers when family's just walked into the unknown.

What are the rules for going over seas, what shots do we need, do the kids need to learn as new language to socialise with friends.?

State side was another problem, military housing had rules that varied, some allowed pets, others did not. Hubby over seas and you give birth, some housing allowed family members to spend 30 days with you, others only 2 weeks.

There are millions of woman like me out there that had to face constant disruptions in their lives, we survived as so will you., look at this as an adventure, something new and interesting,    Go full out, eyes wide open and live life to the hilt-----Go girl.   





Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on July 24, 2009, 02:45:43 PM
Sorry to hear about the ordeal, BEG.  It doesn't sound like much fun for anyone involved.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: BEG on July 24, 2009, 03:22:48 PM
Yah me too, as an ex-services mans wife with 4 kids and no idea where we would be sent next I really feel your pain.

What next port of call will we be going to, what, we have 6 weeks to pack up and move, can we take our pets, what kind of place is this,---before computers when family's just walked into the unknown.

What are the rules for going over seas, what shots do we need, do the kids need to learn as new language to socialise with friends.?

State side was another problem, military housing had rules that varied, some allowed pets, others did not. Hubby over seas and you give birth, some housing allowed family members to spend 30 days with you, others only 2 weeks.

There are millions of woman like me out there that had to face constant disruptions in their lives, we survived as so will you., look at this as an adventure, something new and interesting,    Go full out, eyes wide open and live life to the hilt-----Go girl.   







Well your post put everything into perspective, thanks I really needed to hear it. Sometimes you feel sorry for youself and forget that someone ALWAYS has it worse.  I totally forgot how sucky all the moving is for our Military families. 

Thanks again. :)
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 24, 2009, 03:25:56 PM
I feel for ya, I regarded the years I spent in New Jersey as a sentence that had to be served to get to a better place.  It all worked out eventually, as things tend to do.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Flame on July 24, 2009, 03:29:18 PM
Hugs, BEG.  This is always the worst part of moving...that "in between" stage.   As for the dogs, I feel your pain...2 dogs, 4 cats and 3 kids in a hotel room for 46 days...oiy.  Nightmare.   But I'm sure they will get used to the routine soon!
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: tuolumnejim on July 24, 2009, 04:05:31 PM
The taxes here suck beyond belief, as do the libtards but on the bright side we don't let them go everywhere.  :-) 
What area are you moving to? And yes it IS fire season.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: bijou on July 24, 2009, 04:09:39 PM
Hang in there BEG. I hate moving, every time I do it I swear it will be the last time.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Chris_ on July 24, 2009, 04:13:40 PM
My wife ant I (and the kids) moved 13 times so far in our marriage (three of those overseas), and I can tell you that the more you do it, the easier it gets........we got to the point where we could sell our house, buy a new one, and move in about four weeks.......

You have to get organized........and ALWAYS buy a house with resale in  mind.......

doc
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: rich_t on July 24, 2009, 06:03:48 PM
Beg, October is only about 2 months away.  Wait to re-register the car.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Eupher on July 24, 2009, 06:06:38 PM
Beg, October is only about 2 months away.  Wait to re-register the car.

Yeah, there's no real, honest-to-God cop waiting there at the border making note of your entrance visa to the People's Republic of Commiefornia. Just "delay" by a couple of months.

Hell, if the illegals are catered to like they are, surely Ah-nuld won't be paying attention to a couple of months of a new arrival who is still getting used to things there in the land of fruits and nuts.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: The Village Idiot on July 24, 2009, 11:42:51 PM
No, You should have put in the Cryin' forum cuz BEG... your gonna to Californy.... the Forincatin' capital of the world... you have the walk the dog on a leasg because there are so many weirdo's there. Those taxes are going to go way way up sooner or later, even if its a year or two away...

my advice is lottery tickets.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: vesta111 on July 25, 2009, 08:47:04 AM
Well your post put everything into perspective, thanks I really needed to hear it. Sometimes you feel sorry for youself and forget that someone ALWAYS has it worse.  I totally forgot how sucky all the moving is for our Military families. 

Thanks again. :)

No problem Beg, the biggest problems are with having to say good by to your friends and the kids loosing best friends---that is a tear jerkier.

Most of us go through this a a normal part of life, this is how we live, a different kind of life style from the average family. 

Quirks come up, at least 3 times after moving to a new place trying to unpack and not loose the kids outside there is the telephone man come to hook up our phone.

Absolutely unbelievable that when they got every thing set up and in all cases the phone rang, there was my MOTHER on the phone.  At this point I had no idea what my new phone number was but my MOM managed to get through-----How did she do that ????

Not once, not twice but 3 times she did this, Momma Bears can do anything.

Looking back I have no idea how we did this moving all the time and not loosing a kid or 2 along the way.-----I came close a time or two as we drove coast to coast, just enough to scare the heck out of me.

One hint, if you hire a moving company, watch them close, they come in like a storm of locus and pack full ashtrays or greasy pots and pans on top of evening ware.


Good luck, have fun, go with no expectations, just take it as it comes, 30 years from now you will look back and mostly fun memories and wonder how you ever did it.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: NHSparky on July 25, 2009, 09:03:04 AM
Yeah, there's no real, honest-to-God cop waiting there at the border making note of your entrance visa to the People's Republic of Commiefornia. Just "delay" by a couple of months.

Hell, if the illegals are catered to like they are, surely Ah-nuld won't be paying attention to a couple of months of a new arrival who is still getting used to things there in the land of fruits and nuts.

I wouldn't.  You'd be amazed how thuggish the cops are about registrations in CA.  Revenue, dontcha know.  They're not much better in NH.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: vesta111 on July 25, 2009, 09:27:11 AM
I wouldn't.  You'd be amazed how thuggish the cops are about registrations in CA.  Revenue, dontcha know.  They're not much better in NH.

Don't you just know that I remember going into Arizona from California  on rt 10 and having a stop point  of police and people, who ever they were, in uniform with guns,  went through my travel trailer and Blazer looking for fruit.

Yup they confiscated the bags or oranges I had packed for the kid to mow on.

Something about the spread of some insect back in the 1970's.

Funny side story, we, the 4 kids and our Saint Bernard were all in the Blazer [rear seat removed] and some of the people at that stop thought we had kidnapped a cow.  Same color and size of a small beef cow, He was a short haired breed. so all we could do was laugh as the cow barked at them.









Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: NHSparky on July 25, 2009, 10:28:52 AM
Agricultural inspection stations?  Yeah, they still have them, but they're not as rigorously enforced.  The Med fly was the thing back in the day.

Nah, the only signs of real importance you'll see on the freeways lately are these:

(http://pro.corbis.com/images/CB029479.jpg?size=572&uid=%7B6BBDB7CB-5AF5-4CE6-96C5-AFACE4ECD3F1%7D)
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Tucker on July 25, 2009, 11:33:54 AM
Hang in there. You'll fit right in with all the people you will meet that hate and want to leave California as much as you will after a month. Y'all have something in common. :uhsure:
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: seabelle on July 25, 2009, 01:12:35 PM
They'll confiscate gerbils too  :bawl:  At least it was that way in the 70's.  Good luck on the move, transitions are tough, but I enjoyed our 6 years in SoCal.  We rented close to the job and beach.  Never regretted not buying and were still able to save enough to buy our dream house......in Virginia  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Tucker on July 25, 2009, 01:15:04 PM
They'll confiscate gerbils too  :bawl:  At least it was that way in the 70's.  Good luck on the move, transitions are tough, but I enjoyed our 6 years in SoCal.  We rented close to the job and beach.  Never regretted not buying and were still able to save enough to buy our dream house......in Virginia  :cheersmate:

I don't want to hear about Gerbils and California in the same paragraph. :hammer:
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: seabelle on July 25, 2009, 01:33:24 PM
I don't want to hear about Gerbils and California in the same paragraph. :hammer:

OMG  :thatsright:   :naughty:

Just trying to educate about banned pets, I think ferrets are illegal too?
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Tucker on July 25, 2009, 01:37:44 PM
OMG  :thatsright:   :naughty:

Just trying to educate about banned pets, I think ferrets are illegal too?

1st thing that popped in my head was San Francisco.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Chris on July 25, 2009, 01:43:03 PM
1st thing that popped in my head was San Francisco.
First thing that popped into my head was Richard Gere. :lmao:

The Great Gerbil Genocide of 1976.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Tucker on July 25, 2009, 01:45:39 PM
First thing that popped into my head was Richard Gere. :lmao:

The Great Gerbil Genocide of 1976.

Thankfully I'm ignorant of that event. :innocent:
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Eupher on July 25, 2009, 02:29:40 PM
I wouldn't.  You'd be amazed how thuggish the cops are about registrations in CA.  Revenue, dontcha know.  They're not much better in NH.

I don't know what the timeframe is for newbies to register their vehicle (30 days/60 days?), but you mean to say that cops pull people over simply because they have out of state plates on the car?

I'm not suggesting that she NOT register her car(s) - that's not acceptable. Just let it go for a month or two after they arrive until it's advantageous to do so.

And as far as payin' taxes goes, when they stop giving freebies to illegals, I'll worry about paying my car registration "on time."
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: NHSparky on July 26, 2009, 07:03:35 AM
I don't know what the timeframe is for newbies to register their vehicle (30 days/60 days?), but you mean to say that cops pull people over simply because they have out of state plates on the car?

I'm not suggesting that she NOT register her car(s) - that's not acceptable. Just let it go for a month or two after they arrive until it's advantageous to do so.

And as far as payin' taxes goes, when they stop giving freebies to illegals, I'll worry about paying my car registration "on time."

10 days, according to CA state law.  That goes with switching your drivers licenses over.  And if your registration is expired, bet your ass they will.

And paying "late" isn't exactly an option, especially with the draconian penalties they throw on it.  Something like double if you're more than 30 days late, but it's been a while, so it might not be as bad, or it might be worse.

Oh, did I mention that you can make an appointment at the CA DMV so you KNOW how and when you'll be blown off?  If you're up to speed and there are no title problems on your car(s), you might even get your plates right away.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: BEG on July 26, 2009, 08:08:31 AM
10 days, according to CA state law.  That goes with switching your drivers licenses over.  And if your registration is expired, bet your ass they will.

And paying "late" isn't exactly an option, especially with the draconian penalties they throw on it.  Something like double if you're more than 30 days late, but it's been a while, so it might not be as bad, or it might be worse.

Oh, did I mention that you can make an appointment at the CA DMV so you KNOW how and when you'll be blown off?  If you're up to speed and there are no title problems on your car(s), you might even get your plates right away.

It's 20 days according to my friend (who said she found out through AAA).
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: NHSparky on July 26, 2009, 09:12:25 AM
But any way you look at it, the state is going to move at whatever speed they damn well see fit.  Fast when it means money for them.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Rick on July 26, 2009, 11:01:55 AM
Geesh guys, from the Cal DMV web site:

Cal DMV  (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/howto/htvr9.htm#feesdue)

How To Register An Out-of-State Vehicle
(Nonresident Vehicle)
Definition of a nonresident vehicle
A nonresident vehicle was last registered outside the state of California. Anyone who brings a vehicle into California, or purchases a nonresident vehicle while in California, should be aware of the registration requirements.

NOTE: California law prohibits residents or businesses from importing and/or registering a new vehicle with less than 7,500 miles at the time of purchase unless it meets or is exempt from California Emission standards. If you acquire a 49-State vehicle (manufactured for all states except California) from another state or country, you may not be able to register your vehicle in California.

Reference:Health & Safety Code Section 43151(A)

When fees are due
Fees must be paid within 20 days of entry or residency to avoid penalties. Any vehicle owned by a California resident must be registered within 20 days of entry into California unless a special permit was obtained. Nonresidents whose vehicles are properly registered to them in their home state or jurisdiction may operate their vehicles in California until they:

•Accept gainful employment in California.
•Claim a homeowner's exemption in California.
•Rent or lease a residence in California.
•Intend to live or be located here on a permanent basis (for example, acquire a California driver license, acquire other licenses not ordinarily extended to a nonresident, registered to vote). 
•Enroll in an institution of higher learning as a California resident or enroll their dependents in school (K-12).
NOTE: Nonresident military personnel stationed in California or their spouses may operate their vehicles with valid out-of-state license plates from their home state or the state where the military person was last stationed.

Registering the vehicle
The following is required to register a nonresident vehicle:
•An Application for Title or Registration (REG 343) (PDF) signed by all registered owners as they appear on the out-of-state registration and/or title. Enter the name(s) and address of the registered owner(s) and lienholder (legal owner), if any, and complete the questions on the application.
•Last issued out-of-state title. (Not required if there is no change of registered owner and a California title is not requested.) If the out-of-state title is not surrendered the California registration card issued will say nontransferable and a California title will not be issued.Last issued registration certificate, if the applicant is the same as the registered owner shown on the out-of-state title and the vehicle entered California with valid out-of-state registration, or if the title has been lost.
•Last issued registration certificate or renewal notice for the current year or a letter from the last registration jurisdiction verifying the registration period.
•The vehicle must be inspected by an authorized DMV employee, law enforcement officer, or a licensed vehicle verifier. These inspections are most easily obtained by bringing the vehicle to the nearest DMV, where there is no extra fee charged for the inspection. For faster service, make an Appointment(s) .
•Smog certification, if applicable
•Weight certificate, if applicable
•Declaration of Gross Vehicle Weight/Combined Gross Vehicle Weight (REG 4008) (PDF) form for commercial motor vehicles (pickups with unladen weight of 8,000 lbs. or less are exempt from this requirement)
•Permanent Trailer Identification (PTI) Application Certification (REG 4017) (PDF).
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: Eupher on July 26, 2009, 04:33:39 PM
10 days, according to CA state law.  That goes with switching your drivers licenses over.  And if your registration is expired, bet your ass they will.

And paying "late" isn't exactly an option, especially with the draconian penalties they throw on it.  Something like double if you're more than 30 days late, but it's been a while, so it might not be as bad, or it might be worse.

Oh, did I mention that you can make an appointment at the CA DMV so you KNOW how and when you'll be blown off?  If you're up to speed and there are no title problems on your car(s), you might even get your plates right away.

Jeezus. Remind me not to even take a dump in Califunny, much less move there. Sorry, BEG. I guess you'd better dig deep to keep paying for the privilege of lotsa illegals.  :censored:
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: rich_t on July 26, 2009, 05:51:43 PM
I'll say it again.

Hold off on re-registering the vehicle for a couple of months.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: NHSparky on July 26, 2009, 11:01:14 PM
I'll say it again.

Hold off on re-registering the vehicle for a couple of months.

And I'll say it again.  Lie about it, and they'll **** you nine ways from Sunday for a dollar, rich.  I'm not kidding on this one.
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: RobJohnson on July 27, 2009, 04:03:31 AM
(the 1949 yellow house for those of you who saw the pictures)

Good choice, neat house!
Title: Re: I don't want to move....
Post by: RobJohnson on July 27, 2009, 04:08:48 AM
I don't know what the timeframe is for newbies to register their vehicle (30 days/60 days?), but you mean to say that cops pull people over simply because they have out of state plates on the car?

I'm not suggesting that she NOT register her car(s) - that's not acceptable. Just let it go for a month or two after they arrive until it's advantageous to do so.

And as far as payin' taxes goes, when they stop giving freebies to illegals, I'll worry about paying my car registration "on time."

Nevada has no state income tax, but there is a tax when your register a vehicle, its like 1.5% of MSRP when it sold new, who pays MSRP? So many register in other states, or fail to register once they move here. The laws are strict, and they are cracking down. I know people that pay over $3000 a year for RV plates. It's crazy.

The local news & the police started to cruise through apartment & condo parking lots...looking to see who lives there with improper registration. They also try to track down cars with out of state plates in the employee lot at the airport in Las Vegas....


I know a couple pepole *cough cough* that still have Illinois plates & save several hundred a year.  :evillaugh: