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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on July 23, 2009, 03:52:19 PM
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Oh my.
xultar (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-23-09 04:37 PM
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Black folk, check in. We need to have a discussion about the shit posted in regards to the Gates situation.
How do you feel about what you see being posted here? I have to know.
What I see is white folk gone wild. Seriously.
Obama2012 (58 posts) Thu Jul-23-09 04:44 PM
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1. I think Gates had every right to raise hell, it was his house
And the cops only did it cause he's black.
I'm white, FWIW.
xultar (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-23-09 04:46 PM
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6. See, your post is exactly what I'm talking about. I wasn't asking about GATES...I was asking about how black folk here felt about what they are seeing posted about the Gates situation.
undeterred (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-23-09 04:45 PM
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2. I would be furious if a cop did that to me.
But I'm white.
The dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher:
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-23-09 04:45 PM
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3. I am a white folk who is outraged with the cop
Gates had every right to be upset. Racial profiling is real.
Sorry if I disrupted your thread.
MtUpWithWngsAsEgles (80 posts) Thu Jul-23-09 04:45 PM
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4. Not sure whats been posted here but I think the way the cops handled the situation was wrong. And I am black, by the way.
angstlessk (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-23-09 04:46 PM
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5. I used to watch 'Cops' the teevee show regularly...and you can SEE the different treatment young black men got from the cops even black cops...if ANYONE was let go it was a young white man...VERY SELDOM was a black man NOT arrested!
This is still fairly new; one wonders if the guitarman primitive is going to show up, to tell us what his black friend has to say about the matter.
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The DUmp won't get many responses from black folks. For as progressive a site as they claim to be, they are remarkably lily white.
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-23-09 04:48 PM
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9. I can't wait for all 3 of the black people on DU to chime in. n/t
I'm seeing a pizza in this DUmmies future. :-)
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Oh yes.. Gates the innocent. Gates the crippled. Gates the downtrodden black man. Gates victim of racism and never racist himself.
Suck on this DUmmies.
10 Questions for Henry Louis Gates Jr. - Time Magazine ,Feb 5th, 2009. (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1877366,00.html)
Lets see how this non racist victim answers some questions just 6 months back.
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xultar is a bitchy racist loon
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-23-09 04:45 PM
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2. I would be furious if a cop did that to me.
But I'm white.
They still can't follow instructions.
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Wasn't he arrested for disorderly conduct?
I think that has more to do with his attitude than his colour.
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Oh yes.. Gates the innocent. Gates the crippled. Gates the downtrodden black man. Gates victim of racism and never racist himself.
Suck on this DUmmies.
10 Questions for Henry Louis Gates Jr. - Time Magazine ,Feb 5th, 2009. (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1877366,00.html)
Lets see how this non racist victim answers some questions just 6 months back.
I found this one interesting.
People refer to President Obama as black, even though he is of mixed race. What language should we use? John Malick, LONDON
We can't reinvent language each day or even each generation. Obama is an African American--literally. His father was African, his mother was American. It took us all these years to get a black man into the White House. We're not giving that brother up anytime soon.
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They're outta control:
lunatica (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-23-09 05:24 PM
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36. I'm white and I have no idea what you're talking about
Or why you're insulting white people who are posting?
kiva (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-23-09 05:28 PM
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37. White folk, check in. We need to have a discussion about the
shit posted in regards to the Gates situation.
How do you feel about what you see being posted here? I have to know.
What I see is black folk gone wild. Seriously.
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I think I know what xultar is talking about and somewhat agree with her. Downward in that thread she refers to how excited white liberals get when talking about race.
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He wanted blacks to post on what the other white DUers had written about the incident.....
and he gets the white DUers saying what they thought about the incident...
those white DUers hijacked his thread.
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I think I know what xultar is talking about and somewhat agree with her. Downward in that thread she refers to how excited white liberals get when talking about race.
My sister used to get like that when she was holding the "Old Maid" card.
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I think I know what xultar is talking about and somewhat agree with her. Downward in that thread she refers to how excited white liberals get when talking about race.
The white liberals step all over each other to show that they are offended at any hint, real or imagined of racism. I suppose it's another of those things that make them feel good without having to actually do anything.
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My sister used to get like that when she was holding the "Old Maid" card.
LOL! Wish I could H5 that.
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The white liberals step all over each other to show that they are offended at any hint, real or imagined of racism. I suppose it's another of those things that make them feel good without having to actually do anything.
I think this is part of her point.
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They still can't follow instructions.
But appropriate name.
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yeah, yeah...
gates is trying for the "rosa parks" award of the zero generation. in his case, getting all up in the face of the white cop. asking for arrest.
because we all know:
<dummy>
that everything a cop does, especially to a person of color (not to be confused with a colored person, that would be racist) is wrong.
and every thing a person of color does is right.
</dummy>
0 and gates are friends. i'd bet 0 put him up to this.
assholes...
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-23-09 04:46 PM
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5. I used to watch 'Cops' the teevee show regularly...and you can SEE the different treatment young black men got from the cops even black cops...if ANYONE was let go it was a young white man...VERY SELDOM was a black man NOT arrested!
This is utter bullshit. Being in law enforcement and working with black officers, I have found that NOBODY is more likely to give a black suspect a good beat-down than a black officer........particularly if said black suspect tries to get a little 'racial courtesy' from the officer.
As for Gates, had he simply produced a driver's license with his address on it, I'm sure that this call would've ended with a 3-line incident report within about 2 minutes, but Gates saw the opportunity to make some political hay of the matter. What people fail to understand is that cops operate on a Reaganesque 'trust, but verify' system. Any time someone obstructs our ability to verify, we naturally assume that they're up to something.
Let's say I was working a coat-hanger to try to open the door of my car because I had locked the keys inside and was accosted by an officer (of ANY race). Knowing what the situation looks like, I would produce my driver's license, then invite him to have dispatch check the license number and VIN to verify that the vehicle is registered to me.
Now, if I were black and a burglar, I would immediately go burglarize Gates' house. You know that the cops are going to take their sweet ass time getting there and aren't going to be much in the mood of doing an investigation once they DO get there.
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The white liberals step all over each other to show that they are offended at any hint, real or imagined of racism. I suppose it's another of those things that make them feel good without having to actually do anything.
Bingo! Even when asked by the black primitive for only other black primitives to respond, the white primitives have to step in to speak for them as though they can't or aren't allowed to have a discussion on their own. The white primitives rule Skin's island and they aren't about to give it up and their rightful place to rid themselves of their white guilt by telling everyone how racist all whites are (other than them, of course).
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In another thread where the "white folks gone wild", I found this exchange, which really sums it all up:
Panhandle Dem (11 posts) Thu Jul-23-09 05:23 PM
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386. It saddens me to no end the contempt and hate being shown
against police officers in this forum. As both a former police officer and police administrator it makes me sad to see the villification of the officer involved in this incident.
The bottom line is that this was a Burglary in Progress call! Forget color for one moment and realize that the officer had no facts when he showed up at a Burglary in Progress call and made contact with a possible intruder in the home. Period. This was not some leisurely visit to a known persons house. Stop for one moment and look at what burglars do to people. You only need look at the recent burglary/home invasion in Pensacola Florida to see what burglars are capable of! Take another moment and see how many cops have been killed in the last few years responding to "routine calls" for service.
According to some of the responses to this thread, while I was a police officer I was: A Clan member, A racist POS Cop, A badge sniffing rotten cop... anyway, I'm sure you get the point.
Police Bad- Professor Good. No questions asked and full facts not needed. This is the type of hyperbole I would expect from a Rethug site.
From everything I've read about this the officer was in a no win situation from the time he stepped onto Gates porch. At the end of the day the sad fact is that sometimes people have to be arrested for disorderly conduct no matter who they are or what the color of their skin is. If you are being disorderly then you are being disorderly.
But alas, the charge was dropped. However, in my opinion, it was dropped because the department got scared not because the charge wouldn't have stuck. At least the union is backing the officer now that his superiors have abandoned him.
Now... Feel free to burn me down for looking past race and dealing with this incident for what it was. A BURGLARY IN PROGRESS WITH A POSSIBLE INTRUDER STILL INSIDE. At least I can say I've walked in that cops shoes. But I'm sure the days I put my life on the line as a cop don't allow me to have an opinion since I'm male and white.
msanthrope (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-23-09 10:43 PM
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416. Then maybe this isn't the board for you. n/t
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=3981640
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Panhandle Dem (11 posts) Thu Jul-23-09 05:23 PM
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Forget color for one moment
msanthrope (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-23-09 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #386
416. Then maybe this isn't the board for you. n/t
Pretty much sums up the DUmp right there.
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"But I'm sure the days I put my life on the line as a cop don't allow me to have an opinion since I'm male and white." ....Panhandle Dem certainly nailed that one.
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"But I'm sure the days I put my life on the line as a cop don't allow me to have an opinion since I'm male and white." ....Panhandle Dem certainly nailed that one.
Relax Johnny if there is a God this will happen.
6-8 months down the road the good Professor will come to find his home is totally empty.
Everything gone including the light bulbs in the ceiling lights.
The neighbors will be questioned about what they saw and there will be 5 or 6 to say they saw a huge moving van pull up and watched as the driver and 3 helpers broke into the front door. When asked for a description of the men they will all say they did not notice if they were black or white as they are liberal and been trained not to take that into consideration. None of the neighbors called 911 as to past problems.
They will tell the police it only took about 90 minutes to remove everything and go on their way.
Now what does the kindly Professor do, he rants that all eye witnesses are white so the thieves had to be white. Along comes a 10 year old white child that says the thieves were black.
This child is a raciest thunders the Professor, no black ever comits a black on black crime.
3 months later as the professor recovers from a nervous break down , the police visit him to give good news, the thieves had been found and they are all Chinese.
One can wish this would take place, there are some people that need a good laugh.
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I wonder when pandhandle dem will get the granite cookie?
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I wonder if Gates (PHd in Black Hatred) is also one of the assholes that give the airport screeners a hard time too?
If a cop came into my house after I had been breaking into it and asked for my ID It would have been handed over graciously and with thanks for looking out for my house.
This is going to bite both the good professor and the obumbler.
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I wonder when pandhandle dem will get the granite cookie?
Dixie for us who ate not up to to days jargon, what is a granite cookie-----something over baked or what .?
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Relax Johnny if there is a God this will happen.
6-8 months down the road the good Professor will come to find his home is totally empty.
Everything gone including the light bulbs in the ceiling lights.
The neighbors will be questioned about what they saw and there will be 5 or 6 to say they saw a huge moving van pull up and watched as the driver and 3 helpers broke into the front door. When asked for a description of the men they will all say they did not notice if they were black or white as they are liberal and been trained not to take that into consideration. None of the neighbors called 911 as to past problems.
They will tell the police it only took about 90 minutes to remove everything and go on their way.
Now what does the kindly Professor do, he rants that all eye witnesses are white so the thieves had to be white. Along comes a 10 year old white child that says the thieves were black.
This child is a raciest thunders the Professor, no black ever comits a black on black crime.
3 months later as the professor recovers from a nervous break down , the police visit him to give good news, the thieves had been found and they are all Chinese.
One can wish this would take place, there are some people that need a good laugh.
Vestanumbers is living proof that evolution is an ongoing process.
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Dixie for us who ate not up to to days jargon, what is a granite cookie-----something over baked or what .?
In case Dixie doesn't feel like rising to it, "Pizza," "Granite cookie," "Slab," "Teh Granite," etc. are all various slang terms to refer to $kammer's little way of using an avatar of a tombstone for those who have been banned or otherwise kicked off his little money machine, oh, excuse me, "Political discussion forum."
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Anybody who has a mole they can possibly burn, want to invite Panhandle Dem here? Just a thought.
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Anybody who has a mole they can possibly burn, want to invite Panhandle Dem here? Just a thought.
He doesn't have enough posts to receive PMs yet.
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He doesn't have enough posts to receive PMs yet.
What, they limit those too? First you can't use SEARCH without donating and now you need a number of posts before you can use PM? What is that place some kind of nazi place?
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What, they limit those too? First you can't use SEARCH without donating and now you need a number of posts before you can use PM? What is that place some kind of nazi place?
Winnah Winnah Chicken Dinnah!
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bayer DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-23-09 08:39 PM
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96. Locking
Locking for the same reason we would lock it if it said "White folk check in" and "Black folk gone wild."
Cheers,
cbayer
DU Moderator
Yea that's the ticket. :whatever:
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What, they limit those too? First you can't use SEARCH without donating and now you need a number of posts before you can use PM? What is that place some kind of nazi place?
Yep. There's some magic threshold one needs to cross before being able to start a thread or receive/send PM's. They won't tell you what that number is.
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Yep. There's some magic threshold one needs to cross before being able to start a thread or receive/send PM's. They won't tell you what that number is.
Why does this remind me of the Obama WH? So much transparency you can't see anything.