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Oh my.
Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-10-09 04:37 AM
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Anybody had kidney stones?
I have had painful attacks since last June. They happen about once a month. I got an ultrasound diagnosis. I don't have the money to get it treated.
What helps it?
mopinko (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-10-09 11:05 AM
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1. low salt and lots of water.
but you probably knew that. i have a friend who gets them, and she always has her water bottle with her. it does help.
good luck. sucks to not be able to get treatment because of money.
That's it, water. Lots and lots of water.
Just plain ordinary lots and lots of water.
The most primitivish people in real life I know are anti-water; "BWAA! BWAA! I don't like water! BWAAA! I hate water! BWAAAA!"
I have no idea why that is, given that water is a wholly innocuous, harmless thing, and it won't kill anybody.
Of course, what the primitive who lit this bonfire really wants are pharmaceuticals.
Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-13-09 12:29 AM
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2. Yeah, I knew about lots of water being good for it.
I do low salt, because I don't like salt anyway. I switched to sea salt and it tastes better.
The pains were awful. In fact, they were almost as bad as a busted ovarian cyst that sent me to the ER in agony a few years ago.
safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-19-09 02:22 PM
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3. I rode the last one out without going to the ER.
Doc gave me some oxycodone to keep on hand. She said if I start taking it at the first sign, I might make it. In the hospital I went through 3 shots of morphine that never touch the pain. I think there are 2 different types. One from calcium and the other from acid. You have to determine which one to find the right diet.
That's what most primitives want; they don't want the problem solved, they just want the drugs.
The warped primitive, a defrocked registered nurse:
Warpy (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-19-09 02:49 PM
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4. A specific diet is dictated by the type of stone, although there is no proof that any specific diet has ever worked. If you are passing the stones, then they can be analyzed to see if they're calcium, uric acid, or one of the rarer types, but it won't make that much difference. However, if they're uric acid stones, a chronic bacterial infection is suspected and can be treated.
Until then, drink plenty of water to keep them flushed through while they're small. A lot of people pass small stones without ever knowing they have them. Get pain control when you get an attack, it's the first line of defense.
Diet has been insufficiently studied as either prevention and treatment and much, like the role of megadoses of Vitamin C in stone formation, has been so poorly studied we can pretty much dismiss it as folklore.
Good luck. Most episodes can be treated with pain control, alone, good news for people like us who are uninsured.
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These people are unreal.
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Actually, unless the stones are small enough, they should be broken up with ulta sound so they will pass.
My understanding is the pain is so severe you'll pass out from it. Nasty stuff.
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Actually, unless the stones are small enough, they should be broken up with ulta sound so they will pass.
My understanding is the pain is so severe you'll pass out from it. Nasty stuff.
A moonbat co-worker of minetells me that they're excruciating.
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I have no idea why that is, given that water is a wholly innocuous, harmless thing, and it won't kill anybody.
Not if it's inhaled. :-)
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Not if it's inhaled. :-)
Well, that is true, and it is possible to die from water poisoning - where one drinks so much water that sodium levels drop too low, then the water starts to collect in the brain which causes it to swell.
But to do that one needs to drink A LOT of water.
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Well, that is true, and it is possible to die from water poisoning - where one drinks so much water that sodium levels drop too low, then the water starts to collect in the brain which causes it to swell.
But to do that one needs to drink A LOT of water.
Didn't some woman do that as part of a radio contest in California or somewhere?
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Didn't some woman do that as part of a radio contest in California or somewhere?
Maybe - there is at least one story every year of someone killing themselves via water poisoning - IIRC last year it was some frat-house guy who on a dare drank something on the order of five gallons of water.
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I will tell you...you have not had pain till you have experienced a kidney stone..........and that includes childbirth.
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Actually, unless the stones are small enough, they should be broken up with ulta sound so they will pass.
My understanding is the pain is so severe you'll pass out from it. Nasty stuff.
Oh yeah! :banghead: