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NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, or LRO, has returned its first imagery of the Apollo moon landing sites. The pictures show the Apollo missions' lunar module descent stages sitting on the moon's surface, as long shadows from a low sun angle make the modules' locations evident.
The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera, or LROC, was able to image five of the six Apollo sites, with the remaining Apollo 12 site expected to be photographed in the coming weeks.
The satellite reached lunar orbit June 23 and captured the Apollo sites between July 11 and 15. Though it had been expected that LRO would be able to resolve the remnants of the Apollo mission, these first images came before the spacecraft reached its final mapping orbit. Future LROC images from these sites will have two to three times greater resolution.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/main/index.html
S_E_Fudd (721 posts) Fri Jul-17-09 12:28 PM
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Photos of Apollo sites released....very cool!!!
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/main/index.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6088232#6088786
It is interesting to note that Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) has examined these photos in detail, and is calling for an investigation into why she can find no evidence of the Mars Rover ever having been there.
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Here's another site worth seeing:
http://wechoosethemoon.org/
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(http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww124/Pixerella/Nature/Sun%20moon%20etc/lunar.jpg)
NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, or LRO, has returned its first imagery of the Apollo moon landing sites. The pictures show the Apollo missions' lunar module descent stages sitting on the moon's surface, as long shadows from a low sun angle make the modules' locations evident.
The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera, or LROC, was able to image five of the six Apollo sites, with the remaining Apollo 12 site expected to be photographed in the coming weeks.
The satellite reached lunar orbit June 23 and captured the Apollo sites between July 11 and 15. Though it had been expected that LRO would be able to resolve the remnants of the Apollo mission, these first images came before the spacecraft reached its final mapping orbit. Future LROC images from these sites will have two to three times greater resolution.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/main/index.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6088232#6088786
It is interesting to note that Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) has examined these photos in detail, and is calling for an investigation into why she can find no evidence of the Mars Rover ever having been there.
Why would the Mars Rover be on the Moon? :confused:
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That's like failing to answer the question, "Who's buried in Grant's Tomb?"
:loser:
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Why would the Mars Rover be on the Moon? :confused:
Shelia Jackson-Lee was the DUmbass House member from Texas that was watching the first pics from the Mars Rovers and asked if they could take them to where we landed back in 1969....
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That is one badass picture. :usflag:
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Shelia Jackson-Lee was the DUmbass House member from Texas that was watching the first pics from the Mars Rovers and asked if they could take them to where we landed back in 1969....
:lmao: Can't blame people who were not born for 10 years after the fact for getting all confused, especially since little of this has been in the papers or news except when one of the astronauts goes bonkers and swears he saw UFOs up there or found God on the return trip.
I remember that night we all waited until very late to watch the first man walk on the moon. The one thing that has stayed with me all these years is my first thought was who was taking the pictures, how did the camera get that far from the module , move about and photograph the action ?
I continued to wonder about this on each moon landing after and could find no one to tell me how it was done.
It reminded me of MacArthur when he stepped ashore in the Phillipeans and the famous picture of him as the first American to arrive--mean while in the background one could see Army Nurses who had been there for weeks, and the thought, who took that photo ??
With this in mind I took a jump over to the flat earth society forums and found I am not the only one curious about how the photography was done.
Some of the questions were interesting to say the least, why for instance did Moon Rocks become a felony to own by civilians ? Who actually OWNED those rocks, did the Astronauts get to keep just one, for their tourest collection of souvenirs ?
Another question, when the Astronauts jumped up and down, with low gravity didn't the moon dust fly up and obscure them from the camera ?
This led me to thinking about that moon cart they were driving. Anyone who has lived on a dirt road in dry season knows about the trail of dust a moving Vechel makes, just moving At 3 mph should raise a dust storm under that low a gravity conditions.
Then was it not just a week or 2 ago that we were told the original films went missing, all we have now are reproductions of the original.
It is easy for me to understand why there are men/woman of science out there that are very sceptical of events that took place 40 years ago.
Then one must realise that Nixon was president at that time and all the smoke and mirrors he created.
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I don't think any real men and women of science question the moon landings.
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:lmao: Can't blame people who were not born for 10 years after the fact for getting all confused, especially since little of this has been in the papers or news except when one of the astronauts goes bonkers and swears he saw UFOs up there or found God on the return trip.
I remember that night we all waited until very late to watch the first man walk on the moon. The one thing that has stayed with me all these years is my first thought was who was taking the pictures, how did the camera get that far from the module , move about and photograph the action ?
I continued to wonder about this on each moon landing after and could find no one to tell me how it was done.
It reminded me of MacArthur when he stepped ashore in the Phillipeans and the famous picture of him as the first American to arrive--mean while in the background one could see Army Nurses who had been there for weeks, and the thought, who took that photo ??
With this in mind I took a jump over to the flat earth society forums and found I am not the only one curious about how the photography was done.
Some of the questions were interesting to say the least, why for instance did Moon Rocks become a felony to own by civilians ? Who actually OWNED those rocks, did the Astronauts get to keep just one, for their tourest collection of souvenirs ?
Another question, when the Astronauts jumped up and down, with low gravity didn't the moon dust fly up and obscure them from the camera ?
This led me to thinking about that moon cart they were driving. Anyone who has lived on a dirt road in dry season knows about the trail of dust a moving Vechel makes, just moving At 3 mph should raise a dust storm under that low a gravity conditions.
Then was it not just a week or 2 ago that we were told the original films went missing, all we have now are reproductions of the original.
It is easy for me to understand why there are men/woman of science out there that are very sceptical of events that took place 40 years ago.
Then one must realise that Nixon was president at that time and all the smoke and mirrors he created.
First off, vesta, a bit of history for you as well: (yes, it's teh Wiki, but bear with me:)
LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Jackson-Lee)
IOW, she was 19 when we landed on the moon. Second, she's a member of Congress. You know, sending your best and brightest to represent you, all that? Or maybe not so much?
And Nixon? Smoke and mirrors? Please tell me what you're smoking. If I ever get to the point where I'm not subject to urinalysis anymore I want some of whatever you're putting in the bong this morning.
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First off, vesta, a bit of history for you as well: (yes, it's teh Wiki, but bear with me:)
LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Jackson-Lee)
IOW, she was 19 when we landed on the moon. Second, she's a member of Congress. You know, sending your best and brightest to represent you, all that? Or maybe not so much?
And Nixon? Smoke and mirrors? Please tell me what you're smoking. If I ever get to the point where I'm not subject to urinalysis anymore I want some of whatever you're putting in the bong this morning.
Several of the CU "Owned" pics would be appropriate now.
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Let's see.
Vesta questions why dust storms didn't arise when the lunar rover was out and about. :rotf: :lmao:
Lord God Almighty. Her entire post reeks of trooferism.
I'm no cosmologist or lunar expert, but I'd think that the lack of an ATMOSPHERE on the moon might have something to do with the lack of flapping flags and dearth of dust storms.
I agree with Sparky. When I get to the point where I don't have to piss in the cup, I might like a taste of that bong that you're hitting.
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how did the camera get that far from the module , move about and photograph the action ?
I continued to wonder about this on each moon landing after and could find no one to tell me how it was done.
Another question, when the Astronauts jumped up and down, with low gravity didn't the moon dust fly up and obscure them from the camera ?
As a young engineer working with McDonnell on the lander radar, I can advise you that the photos were taken by a remotely controlled camera with a wide angle lens (15mm) that was mounted in an enclosure on one of the landers landing struts. it could be rotated and indexed from inside the module, or by radio link from the luner orbiter (In case the astronauts did not survive the actual landing)
This led me to thinking about that moon cart they were driving. Anyone who has lived on a dirt road in dry season knows about the trail of dust a moving Vechel makes, just moving At 3 mph should raise a dust storm under that low a gravity conditions.
The moon does have lower gravity, however it lacks the atmosphere to suspend dust particles into a "dust cloud" they therefore, when disturbed, simply fall back to the surface much like beach sand does when you release a handful.
Then one must realise that Nixon was president at that time and all the smoke and mirrors he created.
Other than make speeches, Nixon had little to do with the Apollo program, other than being a cheerleader.....
doc
PS: Since I actually received my paycheck for 18 months working on the lander, I can assure you that A. It was built, B. It was launched, C. part of it is still there, and can be seen by a good telescope, and D. Part of it came back.
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I refuse to believe that anyone, even this DUmmy, could be that dumb.
They are treading on ground that is home only to Sheila Jackson Lee and Cynthia McKinney.
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A couple years ago I went to the Space Museum in D.C. looking in AWE at those capsules humans climbed into to head out for the unknown.
After a couple of hours I left the museum still shaking my head at how on earth anyone would willing climb into those all so very small vehicles to go 100 feet off the ground much less to the MOON.
All the science fiction thoughts of colonizing the Moon is sort of nuts to my thinking.
At this time outside of a few research labs, there is no way for us to build deep sea living spaces on our own planet. We know more about Mars and the, if it can be called, weather patterns then we do about our own.
We spend all this time and money to get to places that will take forever to study, map and explore.
We will be trying to equate any knowledge we find that will be useless to us until we can understand with some kind of a Rosetta Stone to make sense.
We know so very little of our own planet, we can only guess at what is under our seas, volcano's, huge pockets of methane, life forms that can thrive in conditions unheard of for us topside.
We have to learn to crawl before we walk, dive into our own mystery's before we even think of ignoring home to go anywhere that holds mysteries we cannot comprehend.
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Um, yeah. Scientists are totally ignoring the Earth and there is no research being done into those subjects you mentioned. Ever hear of multi-tasking?
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A couple years ago I went to the Space Museum in D.C. looking in AWE at those capsules humans climbed into to head out for the unknown.
After a couple of hours I left the museum still shaking my head at how on earth anyone would willing climb into those all so very small vehicles to go 100 feet off the ground much less to the MOON.
All the science fiction thoughts of colonizing the Moon is sort of nuts to my thinking.
At this time outside of a few research labs, there is no way for us to build deep sea living spaces on our own planet. We know more about Mars and the, if it can be called, weather patterns then we do about our own.
We spend all this time and money to get to places that will take forever to study, map and explore.
We will be trying to equate any knowledge we find that will be useless to us until we can understand with some kind of a Rosetta Stone to make sense.
We know so very little of our own planet, we can only guess at what is under our seas, volcano's, huge pockets of methane, life forms that can thrive in conditions unheard of for us topside.
We have to learn to crawl before we walk, dive into our own mystery's before we even think of ignoring home to go anywhere that holds mysteries we cannot comprehend.
Either you are very young.......or you know little about science.........or both.
It would be my earnest suggestion that you do some study on the various topics mentioned above before making broad-brush comments concerning the state of the art in science........
doc
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Cool photo of the Moon. We should be on Mars and beyond by now.
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Follow the links to shots of footprints in the moon dust, gave me chills to think that they're still there
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That's like failing to answer the question, "Who's buried in Grant's Tomb?"
:loser:
Except the answer is Grant AND his wife.
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:lmao: Can't blame people who were not born for 10 years after the fact for getting all confused, especially since little of this has been in the papers or news except when one of the astronauts goes bonkers and swears he saw UFOs up there or found God on the return trip.
I would say "You can't be serious," but it appears you are. Mars? Moon? A person supposedly wise enough to make our laws, tax us, and spend the money wisely (Bear with me, the rest of you, it's the standard ol' Sheila is supposed to meet, no matter how short of the mark she really falls) has no clue about the difference, and has repeatedly demonstrated the fact? While I feel you take a great deal of undeserved abuse from some of our more aggressive members in a lot of threads, you deserve it all for that one.
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Whoopi Goldberg is apparently a non believer, and questioned whether we landed on the moon. :tinfoil:
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Whoopi Goldberg is apparently a non believer, and questioned whether we landed on the moon. :tinfoil:
...but she was a regular on Star Trek. She should know better. :-)
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Except the answer is Grant AND his wife.
More obfuscation. You trolls are particularly bad at staying on topic, aren't you?
Vesta's musings are only slightly worse than your poor attempts at humor.
And Sheila's incredibly stupid remarks boggle the mind. Kinda makes me wonder if all of you have gone to and graduated from the School of the Moonbat.
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More obfuscation. You trolls are particularly bad at staying on topic, aren't you?
Vesta's musings are only slightly worse than your poor attempts at humor.
And Sheila's incredibly stupid remarks boggle the mind. Kinda makes me wonder if all of you have gone to and graduated from the School of the Moonbat.
Liberalism is a mental illness, 'nuff said.
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:lmao: Can't blame people who were not born for 10 years after the fact for getting all confused, especially since little of this has been in the papers or news except when one of the astronauts goes bonkers and swears he saw UFOs up there or found God on the return trip.
I remember that night we all waited until very late to watch the first man walk on the moon. The one thing that has stayed with me all these years is my first thought was who was taking the pictures, how did the camera get that far from the module , move about and photograph the action ?
I continued to wonder about this on each moon landing after and could find no one to tell me how it was done.
It reminded me of MacArthur when he stepped ashore in the Phillipeans and the famous picture of him as the first American to arrive--mean while in the background one could see Army Nurses who had been there for weeks, and the thought, who took that photo ??
With this in mind I took a jump over to the flat earth society forums and found I am not the only one curious about how the photography was done.
Some of the questions were interesting to say the least, why for instance did Moon Rocks become a felony to own by civilians ? Who actually OWNED those rocks, did the Astronauts get to keep just one, for their tourest collection of souvenirs ?
Another question, when the Astronauts jumped up and down, with low gravity didn't the moon dust fly up and obscure them from the camera ?
This led me to thinking about that moon cart they were driving. Anyone who has lived on a dirt road in dry season knows about the trail of dust a moving Vechel makes, just moving At 3 mph should raise a dust storm under that low a gravity conditions.
Then was it not just a week or 2 ago that we were told the original films went missing, all we have now are reproductions of the original.
It is easy for me to understand why there are men/woman of science out there that are very sceptical of events that took place 40 years ago.
Then one must realise that Nixon was president at that time and all the smoke and mirrors he created.
Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage would like to have a word with you.
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Cool photo of the Moon. We should be on Mars and beyond by now.
Absolutely.....I was in high school when Al Shepard, John Glenn and the rest made their first flights. The X-15 was setting records. I read every "Space" book of science fiction they had in the library and all of the "real" stuff too. I remember thinking, "Surely by the year 2000, we'll be on mars." I remember thinking, "I'll be 55 then but if I make it, it'll be worth the wait."
Well, we're past 2000 and I've made it past 55 but we seem to be farther from Mars now than we were then.
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Absolutely.....I was in high school when Al Shepard, John Glenn and the rest made their first flights. The X-15 was setting records. I read every "Space" book of science fiction they had in the library and all of the "real" stuff too. I remember thinking, "Surely by the year 2000, we'll be on mars." I remember thinking, "I'll be 55 then but if I make it, it'll be worth the wait."
Well, we're past 2000 and I've made it past 55 but we seem to be farther from Mars now than we were then.
I have many space exploration books and they talked about space stations in the 1990s and we would be in Mars by this decade.
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And we were all supposed to have flying cars by now too. :(
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And we were all supposed to have flying cars by now too. :(
The bunnies are inhibiting technological development. They don't want humans to go to Mars because they don't want to be exposed.
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The bunnies are inhibiting technological development. They don't want humans to go to Mars because they don't want to be exposed.
I'm going to regret this later, but how would humans going to Mars expose the bunnies as anything? Are there bunnies on Mars or something?
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I'm going to regret this later, but how would humans going to Mars expose the bunnies as anything? Are there bunnies on Mars or something?
Here's info on their origin: The Constellation Lepus:
Lepus, the Hare, was one of the animals that the great hunter Orion most delighted in pursuing. Lepus was thus honored a place among the stars. Crouching low on the horizon., The Hare tries to remain unnoticed as it endlessly attempts to escape Orion's attention and attack, Through the legend of Lepus, the timid hare is seen fleeing before Orion as The Hunter is poised to attack the onrushing bull, Taurus. Meanwhile, the fierce monster of the deep, Cetus the Whale, eagerly seeks any prey that he may savagely devour, and The Champion, Perseus, with drawn sword, stands ever ready to join in mortal combat.
THE HARE (http://www.astromax.org/con-page/autumn/lep-01.htm)
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More obfuscation. You trolls are particularly bad at staying on topic, aren't you?
Who is the obfuscater here? YOU brought up the subject, not me.
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And we were all supposed to have flying cars by now too. :(
Actually we did....back in the late 50's, early 60's a flying car was marketed (if I recall correctly), and it failed..........It was a lousy airplane, and an even worse car.......but it did actually work.
doc
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Actually we did....back in the late 50's, early 60's a flying car was marketed (if I recall correctly), and it failed..........It was a lousy airplane, and an even worse car.......but it did actually work.
doc
There were also hovercars (with all the limitations of GEVs we have learned of since), and an experimental military car-like vehicle with big ducted fans fore and aft (with modern fly-by-wire tech and a modern turbine, that one might actually be mede to work decently nowadays).
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Flying cars?.....wasn't there a kit to attach wings etc. to a ford Maverick or pinto?
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Flying cars?.....wasn't there a kit to attach wings etc. to a ford Maverick or pinto?
I think the Japanese bought all the kits for the Pinto in WWII. :uhsure:
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I think the Japanese bought all the kits for the Pinto in WWII. :uhsure:
Yep, they called it a zero! There are none left though, we shot 'em all to pieces!
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I want my jetpack first!!!!! :-)
This thread reminds me of a Jaywalking segment on Leno :rofl:
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Yep, they called it a zero! There are none left though, we shot 'em all to pieces!
Actually the Zero was one hell of a fighter in its later permutations.......my father flew Corsairs (F4-U) in the Pacific during WW II, and there are a lot of his shipmates/wingmen that did not come home due to the Zero-sen.......
Please be more cautious when evaluating our former enemy's combat equipment......some of it wasn't up to snuff, but the Zero wasn't one of them.....
doc