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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on July 16, 2009, 04:28:44 PM
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Oh my.
callous taoboy (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-16-09 12:56 PM
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Had a chilling talk with my plumber:
I live in a county which has the distinction of being in the top five counties in the U.S. in terms of earned-interest income. Plumber was telling me about several elaborate underground bunkers he has been hired to do plumbing work on. All of them in remote parts of the properties, behind several coded gates and each one loaded to the gills with guns and ammo, food, marine toilets. Speaking with one paranoid he asked him, "Yeah, but if the government comes in here to get you won't you be lucky to squeeze off 10 rounds before they hit you with a flame thrower or bunker buster or something?" Said the guy basically had to agree.
efhmc (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-16-09 01:00 PM
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4. Could you please tell me what that means?
RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-16-09 01:26 PM
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20. Sounds like a state of delusion.
In another 20 years, their grand kids will be having pot parties in those bunkers. They have just about as much utility as the 1950s bomb shelters.
hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-16-09 12:59 PM
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3. Let them hide in their bunkers
The best solution is to just plug the air vents.
The grouchy old primitive:
NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-16-09 01:01 PM
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5. Have to admit the amount of target practice I have been hearing around here has increased a lot
Used to be just on the weekends. Now I hear them all week long. And I don't live near any legal outdoor gun ranges.
canadianbeaver (820 posts) Thu Jul-16-09 01:08 PM
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12. 2012-the end of the world for many
Ramtha-aka-JZ Knight(Washington state-Yelm)...has told her followers that they need to prepare and make underground bunkers that will house them and at least 2-4 years worth of food(many trying for 10 years)...and that is just one group...there are hundreds out there doing/thinking the same thing...Oh and the evil government and their grey men are coming for you and all you own.
Hmmm. One wonders what the above was all about, but never mind.
OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-16-09 01:09 PM
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13. what these folks don't understand is that we're all in this together . . . and we're either going to sink or swim collectively, not as individuals hiding in our own personal bunkers . . .
No, we aren't in all this together, given that the primitives have never taken the war against terrorism seriously.
Nebraska's too small a state to be bothered by terrorists, domestic or foreign, but in the case of massive civil disorder because of a terrorist attack, Nebraska's a likely destination for "refugees," millions of them flooding here from blue states.
This is a great place where I live in the Sandhills of Nebraska, and easily capable of supporting hundreds in various ways, if worse came to worse.
However, nobody's going to be let in unless young children or ancient people, and those who can show a voter-registration card identifying them as Republican.
No way is franksolich giving haven to Democrats, liberals, and especially not primitives.
HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-16-09 01:12 PM
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16. The morons who build armed bunkers filled with canned food have one major fatal flaw in their plan..
They're all too ****ing stupid to remember to put a can opener in the bunker. That Dinty More Beef Stew's going to be pretty tasty after blasting the can with an Uzi.
Yeah, right.
zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-16-09 01:28 PM
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21. Water
They all prepare for global disaster, but presume they'll still be able to pump water out of the ground. They can't begin to hope to store enough water. If one truly believes that all infrastructure will go to hell, they can quickly come to the understanding that you can't "go it alone". In the entire history of the human race, no one has ever successfully lived that way. Even nomads had to band together in small groups of 20 or so. Monks live in small groups. Even hermits and "guru's" usually have some supporters of some sort to engage the larger infrastructure. The old fallout shelters of the '50s were meant for a few days to a couple of weeks. It is pretty hard to create anything that could support you independently for a year or more.
Well, remember, when the primitives have one of their disaster bonfires, right after "pharmaceuticals," the primitives insist they're going to haul along toilet paper.
As if there's still going to be indoor plumbing after a catastrophic disaster.
hfojvt (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-16-09 01:14 PM
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17. probably they are less worried about the government
and more worried about the starving and lawless masses if society collapses.
In the 0bamareich, there's people starving?
I thought that all ended on January 20, 2009, which was quite a while ago.
The primitives promised us it would.
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What makes that DUmmie think their doing it "alone"?
Alarm & Muster..... whenshtf.com
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OneBlueSky
what these folks don't understand is that we're all in this together
Not really. Give me one good reason why I'd join hands with Marxist trash like you? Better to die on my feet than to fight alongside someone who'd just as soon have us all living in some lib trashpile of a country.
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Hmmm. One wonders what the above was all about, but never mind.
If memory serves, 2012 is the end of the ancient Mayan calendar - there are now several groups of people who accept at face value that 2012 marks the beginning of The End Of Days.
I believe the only people who should be concerned about 2012 are the Democrats. Once Obama leaves office, I suspect nobody will want another Democrat in office for a long, long time.
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What makes that DUmmie think their doing it "alone"?
Alarm & Muster..... whenshtf.com
Interestin site
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With the Apocalypse staring them in the face, why are DUmmies worried about global warming and socialized medicine?
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With the Apocalypse staring them in the face, why are DUmmies worried about global warming (That's just heat from the gates of hell) and socialized medicine (free mind numbing drugs)?
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-16-09 01:12 PM
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16. The morons who build armed bunkers filled with canned food have one major fatal flaw in their plan..
They're all too ******* stupid to remember to put a can opener in the bunker. That Dinty More Beef Stew's going to be pretty tasty after blasting the can with an Uzi.
Most pocket knives will open a can in a pinch, but most cans these days are "easy open"....
This is a non-issue....
zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-16-09 01:28 PM
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21. Water
They all prepare for global disaster, but presume they'll still be able to pump water out of the ground. They can't begin to hope to store enough water.
I don't have to pump water, except to my house. Otherwise, I go to the spring and get it as it comes from the ground....
Besides, what self-respecting bunker resident isn't going to have a standby generator with several hundred gallons of gas ready. You don't have to run them things 24/7. An hour or 2 a day to pump water and do whatever else is enough....
DUmbasses have no idea how to be self-sufficient. Good thing these people weren't the first pioneers, or we'd still be in England....
Also, no damned wonder they need the govt to wipe their noses and asses....
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those idiots sure do make a lot of faulty assumptions, don't they? :confused:
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those idiots sure do make a lot of faulty assumptions, don't they? :confused:
They're primitives - it's what they do. Some invent the faulty assumption, others just parrot what another primitive said without giving it any further thought.
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Americans have pumped countless millions of gallons of water from the ground without a single watt of electricity.
On the other hand, there have been crackpot end-of-world cults around since the beginning of recorded history.
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If memory serves, 2012 is the end of the ancient Mayan calendar - there are now several groups of people who accept at face value that 2012 marks the beginning of The End Of Days.
I believe the only people who should be concerned about 2012 are the Democrats. Once Obama leaves office, I suspect nobody will want another Democrat in office for a long, long time.
Apparently, among the Mayans themselves, there was anything BUT a consistent view of what the Hell the end of the calendar cycle would mean. It was only some groups of them that thought it would be cataclysm. I'm not going to take the whole thing seriously until JPL starts tracking an inbound asteroid, Yellowstone starts smoking, or the icecap slides off Greenland.
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Oh my.
The grouchy old primitive:
Hmmm. One wonders what the above was all about, but never mind.
No, we aren't in all this together, given that the primitives have never taken the war against terrorism seriously.
Nebraska's too small a state to be bothered by terrorists, domestic or foreign, but in the case of massive civil disorder because of a terrorist attack, Nebraska's a likely destination for "refugees," millions of them flooding here from blue states.
This is a great place where I live in the Sandhills of Nebraska, and easily capable of supporting hundreds in various ways, if worse came to worse.
However, nobody's going to be let in unless young children or ancient people, and those who can show a voter-registration card identifying them as Republican.
No way is franksolich giving haven to Democrats, liberals, and especially not primitives.
Yeah, right.
Well, remember, when the primitives have one of their disaster bonfires, right after "pharmaceuticals," the primitives insist they're going to haul along toilet paper.
As if there's still going to be indoor plumbing after a catastrophic disaster.
In the 0bamareich, there's people starving?
I thought that all ended on January 20, 2009, which was quite a while ago.
The primitives promised us it would.
I wouldn't say that Nebraska is to small for anyone to attack Frank. Omaha has the largest network fortelecommunications in the US,hence why all the military and First Data have some very large operations here. Also The Air Force has STRATCOM here too. They may not get to the main buildings but an attack of any kind would get them the news and attention they could us to recruit more to join their cause.
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Was the plumber's wife...Morgan Fairchild...Yeah that's the ticket.
What a weak piece of crap....bouncy is spinning in her grav...section 8 subsidized apartment.
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Good thing these people weren't the first pioneers
<P>Wagons East!
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Wagons East!
That was an awful movie. John Candy's last, and you got stuck watching Richard Lewis for two hours. :lmao:
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It was bad
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I wouldn't say that Nebraska is to small for anyone to attack Frank. Omaha has the largest network fortelecommunications in the US,hence why all the military and First Data have some very large operations here. Also The Air Force has STRATCOM here too. They may not get to the main buildings but an attack of any kind would get them the news and attention they could us to recruit more to join their cause.
Typically it would be nuclear anyway. Fallout is what will get us all, no matter where ya live.
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Typically it would be nuclear anyway. Fallout is what will get us all, no matter where ya live.
Not necessarily, the whole shelter idea is based on a sound evaluation of how fast residual radiation degrades. Due to long half-life isotopes in the food chain, life expectancies would be a lot shorter after global nuclear war, but those in areas only affected by fallout who can stay holed-up for a month actually have pretty good survival prospects.
And by the ways, DUmmies, we aren't all in this together, and shelters, refuges or redoubts are not meant to stand up to Government armed forces intent on breaking into them; if that happens, the people in them are indeed screwed. But that's not what they're for anyway.
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This reminds me of one of my favorite bonfires, just before the '04 election when they were sure the world would end if President Bush was re-elected. The DUmmies were discussing their elite survival skills such as how to find and forage inside abandoned grocery stores. One had a few admirers as he/she/it bragged that if all else failed, they were able to use an outdoor propane grill. Can you imagine the horror, being reduced to such base survival skills as using a propane grill? :rotf:
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This reminds me of one of my favorite bonfires, just before the '04 election when they were sure the world would end if President Bush was re-elected. The DUmmies were discussing their elite survival skills such as how to find and forage inside abandoned grocery stores. One had a few admirers as he/she/it bragged that if all else failed, they were able to use an outdoor propane grill. Can you imagine the horror, being reduced to such base survival skills as using a propane grill? :rotf:
Did said DUmmie happen to post his/her recipe for homemade propane?.....or how to use lemons and copper wire to produce electricity to replace the batteries in the grill ignitetor?
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Did said DUmmie happen to post his/her recipe for homemade propane?.....or how to use lemons and copper wire to produce electricity to replace the batteries in the grill ignitetor?
What I've always found funny in primitive "plans" for disasters is their obsession with having a stockpile of toilet paper.
As if a disaster would leave indoor plumbing intact.
Me, I'm going to take along some True Temper shovels, spades, rakes, hoes, axes, and weed-cutters, those sorts of things. And yes, the cats too.
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Coach, as Oreo has made it plain to me, cats would be able to take care of thier "business" without digging. (I have a feeling that, if I tried to keep Oreo from burying her "stuff," she'd claw my body up--and I'd deserve it 100%.)
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Coach, as Oreo has made it plain to me, cats would be able to take care of thier "business" without digging. (I have a feeling that, if I tried to keep Oreo from burying her "stuff," she'd claw my body up--and I'd deserve it 100%.)
The cats would be fine, with no tools.
I'd take along the cats for sentimental reasons, even though I'm not a cat person.
I'm talking about my own survival here.
While the primitives would be trying to build a habitation and grow food using all their saved toilet tissue as tools, franksolich would be living pretty.
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The cats would be fine, with no tools.
I'd take along the cats for sentimental reasons, even though I'm not a cat person.
I'm talking about my own survival here.
While the primitives would be trying to build a habitation and grow food using all their saved toilet tissue as tools, franksolich would be living pretty.
Oreo converted me to a "cat person," and I'd take her along for sentimental reasons, too. I'd be using the SIG Mosquito to "live pretty," too.
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What I've always found funny in primitive "plans" for disasters is their obsession with having a stockpile of toilet paper.
As if a disaster would leave indoor plumbing intact.
Me, I'm going to take along some True Temper shovels, spades, rakes, hoes, axes, and weed-cutters, those sorts of things. And yes, the cats too.
If you've ever been outdoors for a week long trip and neglected to bring the toilet paper, you aim to NEVER repeat that mistake.
Primitives would do better to keep a few copies of the NYT around than to stockpile bulky rolls of soft paper.
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If you've ever been outdoors for a week long trip and neglected to bring the toilet paper, you aim to NEVER repeat that mistake.
Primitives would do better to keep a few copies of the NYT around than to stockpile bulky rolls of soft paper.
I'm not even sure that the NYT would be good enough to wipe my ass. The comparison you made is unfair to Charmin. :lmao: :rotf:
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I'm not even sure that the NYT would be good enough to wipe my ass. The comparison you made is unfair to Charmin. :lmao: :rotf:
Let me take a guess....you've never used an outhouse and the yellow pages from a Sears-Roebuck catalog?
You take a piece of paper and wad it up....you un-wad it....and wad it up again... then you roll it into a crude cigar shape and twist it tightly......then twist it the other direction.....you continue to do this until it's as soft as Charmins or soft enough to satisfy "your" A$$. .....Hey, you got nothing better to do while you're sitting there taking care of business.
Now the slick, colorful pages with pictures are a whole nother story.
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You know, I gave this some series thought...yes, series thought. Why would DUmmies be discussing bunkers with a plumber. Could it be that they have a rudimentary understanding of the laws of physics? "SHIT does not flow up hill."
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You know, I gave this some series thought...yes, series thought. Why would DUmmies be discussing bunkers with a plumber. Could it be that they have a rudimentary understanding of the laws of physics? "SHIT does not flow up hill."
heh... ever talked to your plumber about survivalism?
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heh... ever talked to your plumber about survivalism?
I don't even discuss survivalism with my wife. She simply assumes that when the zombie apocalypse shitstorm happens, we'll be well prepared to survive the ordeal and deal with the aftermath.
She views it as a matter of "need to know", and she doesn't need to know.
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Let me take a guess....you've never used an outhouse and the yellow pages from a Sears-Roebuck catalog?
You take a piece of paper and wad it up....you un-wad it....and wad it up again... then you roll it into a crude cigar shape and twist it tightly......then twist it the other direction.....you continue to do this until it's as soft as Charmins or soft enough to satisfy "your" A$$. .....Hey, you got nothing better to do while you're sitting there taking care of business.
Now the slick, colorful pages with pictures are a whole nother story.
Used both. Yes, unfortunately at the same time. Also had to use oak leaves one time, as there was no outhouse to be found for quite a distance, and I had left my TP back at deer camp. Not what I would call "fun."
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Used both. Yes, unfortunately at the same time. Also had to use oak leaves one time, as there was no outhouse to be found for quite a distance, and I had left my TP back at deer camp. Not what I would call "fun."
Just remember neighbor the one saying about wild plant life here...
"Leaves of three,let them be."
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Just remember neighbor the one saying about wild plant life here...
"Leaves of three,let them be."
Exactly where I was going with that.