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Title: Do You Support the Increasingly Frequent US Strikes in Pakistan?
Post by: Freeper on July 08, 2009, 08:48:11 AM
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tekisui  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jul-08-09 08:39 AM
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Poll question: Do You Support the Increasingly Frequent US Strikes in Pakistan?   Updated at 8:17 AM
   
US drones, thought to be flown by the CIA have been sending missiles into Pakistan for nearly a year now. Two strikes have occurred in the last 24 hours, 5 in the last two weeks--one of which may have killed up to 80 at a funeral. The targets seem to be Baitullah Meshud, the Pakistani Taliban leader, and his training camps.

Pakistan is also firing on Meshud, with the intention of ground troops moving in later. Although Pakistan denies they are working with the US, and 'protests' the drone strikes, it appears they are a concerted effort.


The question is: Do you support US drone strikes in Pakistan?

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Poll result (23 votes)
Yes.   (5 votes, 22%)   Vote
No.   (17 votes, 74%)   Vote
Other-Explain.   (1 votes, 4%)   Vote

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6013143

so far 5 chickenhawks voted yes.


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timeforpeace  (631 posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jul-08-09 09:40 AM
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10. Cambodia is an apt comparison. War crimes are being committed.

hmmm yet no calls for impeachment or frogmarching Obama to the Hague. :confused:
Must be only repukes are eligible for frogmarching.  :whatever:

Title: Re: Do You Support the Increasingly Frequent US Strikes in Pakistan?
Post by: Freeper on July 08, 2009, 08:51:19 AM
In another thread,
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tekisui  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jul-08-09 09:49 AM
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Drones 'kill dozens' in Pakistan(At Least 40 Killed in New Attack)   Updated at 8:17 AM
   
Source: BBC

At least 40 people have been killed in a suspected US missile strike in north-west Pakistan, local officials say.

They told the BBC three suspected US drones had fired missiles at militants near Ladha in South Waziristan.

It is the third such strike in two days in the area. An attack earlier on Wednesday and one on Tuesday killed at least 19 people, reports said.

The attacks are targeting a stronghold of Pakistan's top Taliban commander, Baitullah Mehsud, in South Waziristan.

US officials believe he is providing both the Taliban and al-Qaeda with a refuge in the region. They are offering a reward of $5m for his capture.

There have been dozens of drone strikes since last August, killing hundreds of militants and civilians.

more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8139739.stm

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Over 140 people have been killed by US drones in Pakistan in the past week.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6013486

140 people in one week? If Bush was at the helm all the dummies would be calling this a massacre and beat the chimpeachment, frogmarching drums even louder. Yet still not one call for impeachment guess war crimes are so 2008.  :-)
Title: Re: Do You Support the Increasingly Frequent US Strikes in Pakistan?
Post by: Freeper on July 08, 2009, 08:56:24 AM
another thread,
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tekisui  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jul-08-09 09:52 AM
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SURGE Update: US military deaths in Afghanistan region at 646   Updated at 9:54 AM
   
Source: AP

As of Tuesday, July 7, 2009, at least 646 members of the U.S. military had died in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan as a result of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in late 2001, according to the Defense Department. The department last updated its figures Tuesday at 10 a.m. EDT.

Of those, the military reports 479 were killed by hostile action.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jmVICVPpmVGLrJ2f3c53jVXJy9vQD999V2700

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6013500

will be watching this thread for calls of impeachment too.
I will also be waiting for my dog to start forming words instead of barking. My guess is the dog will be able to quote Shakespeare before the dummies call for impeachment.  :-)
Title: Re: Do You Support the Increasingly Frequent US Strikes in Pakistan?
Post by: thundley4 on July 08, 2009, 09:15:12 AM
Why aren't we seeing the flagged draped coffins of those soldiers killed as they are brought back to the US?
Title: Re: Do You Support the Increasingly Frequent US Strikes in Pakistan?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 08, 2009, 09:53:12 AM
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timeforpeace  (631 posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jul-08-09 09:40 AM
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10. Cambodia is an apt comparison. War crimes are being committed.

Far be it for me to defend L'il 'B but...

...what war crime? Can I get a specific statute here?

Methinks this idjit is upset about about the US crossing into Cambodia unannounced to kill commies that crossed into Cambodia unannounced and this is the best he can do to muster "intellectual continuity".
Title: Re: Do You Support the Increasingly Frequent US Strikes in Pakistan?
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 08, 2009, 10:37:39 AM
Must be only repukes are eligible for frogmarching.  :whatever:



Repukes frogmarch...DUmmies moon-walk.
Title: Re: Do You Support the Increasingly Frequent US Strikes in Pakistan?
Post by: Freeper on July 09, 2009, 07:14:24 AM
Another thread,
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cali  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Thu Jul-09-09 08:08 AM
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5. me too.
   
it's past time for the U.S. to get all troops out of both countries- and I say that knowing that doesn't mean that anything will improve for the Iraqis or Afghanis.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6019891

Still no calls for impeachment.
Title: Re: Do You Support the Increasingly Frequent US Strikes in Pakistan?
Post by: Chris_ on July 09, 2009, 07:47:23 AM
Why aren't the code pinkos marching up & down in front of the White House?
Title: Re: Do You Support the Increasingly Frequent US Strikes in Pakistan?
Post by: thundley4 on July 09, 2009, 08:24:23 AM
Why aren't the code pinkos marching up & down in front of the White House?


The code-pinkos aren't really anti-war, just anti-American. Now that there is a socialist in the White House that is trying to change America to fit their ideals there is no need to protest.
Title: Re: Do You Support the Increasingly Frequent US Strikes in Pakistan?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 09, 2009, 08:35:01 AM
Far be it for me to defend L'il 'B but...

...what war crime? Can I get a specific statute here?

Methinks this idjit is upset about about the US crossing into Cambodia unannounced to kill commies that crossed into Cambodia unannounced and this is the best he can do to muster "intellectual continuity".

There are no statutes on war crimes, they are breaches of customary international law, generally as it may be memorialized by treaties like Geneva/Hague or similar.  The Nuremburg and (More geographically widespread) Japanese war crimes trials after WWII are the big point of reference and were based on three categories of crime - crimes against peace (Conducting wars of aggression), crimes against humanity (genocide, ethnic cleansing, etc.) and breaches of the law of war (Geneva/Hague stuff - reprisals against civil populations, execution/mistreatment of prisoners, purposely targeting civilians, etc.).