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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dandi on July 05, 2009, 10:50:22 PM
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When a member of the Smartest People On Earthâ„¢ cadre can't understand a simple statistical statement, it's a beautiful thing:
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-05-09 10:37 PM
Original message
Teabagger logic: 101% of us pay 139% of our taxes
*pic of a tea party protester with the following sign:*
INCOME TAXES
TOP 1% PAY 39%
TOP 50% PAY 97%
BOTTOM 50% PAY 3%
FAIR?
Rather than looking at it as three separate statements, proud2BaDumbass adds them all up. LOL
A fellow DUmmy tries to help:
MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-05-09 10:40 PM
Response to Original message
2. I Hate To Say It, But His Numbers Add to 100%
Check again.
However, his numbers are simply wrong, because he's only counting certain kinds of tax.
But when you're in a hole, why stop digging?
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-05-09 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #2
13. Not really
I understand what you are saying but that's not what his sign says.
Another rescuer arrives on the scene:
MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-05-09 10:40 PM
Response to Original message
3. Cute, but you do realize that your math doesn't work, right?
The freeper sign is actually correct.
But resuscitation fails:
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-05-09 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #3
14. 50+50+1 =101
Clear! *ka-THUMP*
MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-05-09 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. They're your plusses, not his. His sign is correct.
Shit. Flatline.
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-05-09 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. Well we are going to have to agree to disagree
It's an idiotic sign that really doesn't make any sense.
One last valiant effort:
Statistical (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-05-09 10:44 PM
Response to Original message
9. Before making fun of freepers alway double check (understand) the math
The top 1% is IN the top 50%.
Top 50% pay 97%, bottom 50% pay 3%
Of that top 50% it is made up of:
a) the top 1% (which pay 39%)
b) the remaining 49% (which pay 48%)
(a+b) = top 50%
(a+b)+ bottom 50% = 100% taxes & 100% people.
If he said top %1, the middle 50%, and the bottom 50% you might have a point.
The irony of the math challenged saying others are math challenged.
BTW this is a common talking point and is technically correct but only because it is ONLY income tax. If you add in sales tax, payroll tax, and various usage taxes & fees the situation becomes less one sided.
Call it. Patient expired at 22:50:
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-05-09 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Well since he didn't put all of that on a sign
His sign says 1+50+50
and 97+3+39
In any other situation I would say nothing about such a mistake, being no Stephen Hawking myself when it comes to math, even though I did understand the sign. But since the DUmbasses are constant proclaimers of their own intellectual ubermensch-ness, I found it hilarious.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5996896#5996916
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well, at least we can be glad that proud2B is just ignorant and is not, like, a teacher or anything.
oh. wait...
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what in the world is P2BK teaching anyways??
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She still doesn't get it.
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This one and DUmmy greenbriar are perfect examples of the unionized schoolteacher.
The fact she's stymied by fourth-grade math is bad enough.
Compound it with her failure to grasp third-grade logic, and you have a NEA all-star.
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How did this person make it to High School, much less become a teacher :mental:
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
This is a classic in highlighting their idiocy.
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How did this person make it to High School, much less become a teacher :mental:
Public Education System
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And another Dummie shows a new way to misinterpret the sign. Another teacher, perhaps? Maybe it's the constant bong usage?
6. The 39% is included IN the 97%, but that does not translate well in a sign
Edited on Sun Jul-05-09 10:52 PM by SoCalDem
BUT
even if he's "right", he's still meanspirited and "wrong".
People who make less than 3% of the income in the "richest" country on earth should NOT have to pay any taxes.
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Fascinating - Not the primitive tripping on its own logic, but the number of those defending the 'freeper'. I'm thinking DUmmyland has lots of closet 'teabaggers'
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Just damn. You can't pay for that kind of stupid.
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Just damn. You can't pay for that kind of stupid.
I dunno. We'll be paying for it for a long time. These people are allowed to vote.
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Proud2BLib continues on to prove just how stupid she really is.
proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-05-09 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. But his sign doesn't say that
Those are far too many words for a stupid freeper.
Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Sun Jul-05-09 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #31
38. Irony.
Someone who just had a simple percentage "math fail" calling someone else stupid based only on a photo of a sign which was correctly understood my the majority of people seeing it (or at least on this thread).
Just because he is a freeper doesn't make him stupid? For all you know he is a (retired?) nuclear physicists. Do you always assume people you disagree with are stupid? Am I stupid?
proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-05-09 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #38
43. No you are just argumentative
:)
Ruh roh! Sy is going to be tombstoned soon.
Sy Kopath (29 posts)
Mon Jul-06-09 08:24 AM
Response to Original message
62. Ummmmmm...............
Aren't you a teacher? I hope it's not math.
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what in the world is P2BK teaching anyways??
Mathematics to "disadvantaged" children in junior high, something like that.
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Proud2BLib continues on to prove just how stupid she really is.
Ruh roh! Sy is going to be tombstoned soon.
Bad use of a mole....but anything bashing Proud2BLib makes me smile.
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what in the world is P2BK teaching anyways??
I beleive it's something completely non-quantitative, social studies or something equally fluffy.
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Whatever she's teaching, she's a shitty teacher. I remember a thread of hers about "merit pay." Now, I've always felt that merit pay is a good thing. You get rewarded for doing an outstanding job. What's not to like? So, I read her rants about merit pay with utter confusion. She seemed to be wholly against it, to the point of rage.
She wants to be the kind of teacher who just runs a permanent "study hall" with busy work for the students. Biding time till payday then retirement.
That was fun to see her pwned by one of her own ilk.
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Whatever she's teaching, she's a shitty teacher. I remember a thread of hers about "merit pay." Now, I've always felt that merit pay is a good thing. You get rewarded for doing an outstanding job. What's not to like?
It is a great idea as long as you assume everyone determining the awards can be purely objective, use some fair standard, and student abilities are randomly distributed and so even out, but in actual application at least one and often all of those assumptions tend to break down especially in smaller school systems. There is almost no place like a school administration/faculty for old-boy networks and sexual politics.
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http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/ff135data--all%20charts.pdf
This ought to make their ****ing heads explode.
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greenbrier and proud2lib always make me think of a girl I went to high school with. She was a stoner that was petty, mean-spirited, and in all the remedial classes. I find it hilarious(and pitiful) that a kid who was not very bright in high school, hung out with the stoners and was one herself, and couldn't get along with anyone who didn't fit into her own little clique is now a teacher having to not only teach children, but also to be civil and an example to ALL children, not just the ones she likes. Anyway, when I think of her, I'm reminded that one does not have to be the best, brightest, or even the most on level to be a teacher. I'm not saying they are all bad, but seeing her teach now, reminds me that there are a whole lot who aren't--if we only knew where they came from we'd know what they are really all about. I have a feeling proud2b and greenbrier are no exception.
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I think someone knows what town she lives in.
That thread should be sent to the local newspaper, asking "This is one of YOUR teachers?".
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Mathematics to "disadvantaged" children in junior high, something like that.
I think I see what their disadvantage is, perhaps a brighter teacher might even things out for them.
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shee ish dumm frum mamacagseses dogee Bellllla
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I think someone knows what town she lives in.
That thread should be sent to the local newspaper, asking "This is one of YOUR teachers?".
Somewhere on the Kansas side of Kansas City. Can't remember which town, though.
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I think someone knows what town she lives in.
That thread should be sent to the local newspaper, asking "This is one of YOUR teachers?".
It's a suburb of Kansas City, Kansas.
The dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, who was born in 1953 (or late 1952), teaches either mathematics to "disadvantaged" students, or "special education, which includes mathematics.
It's been a while now, but the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher has in the past lit bonfires on Skins's island about mathematics, and about teaching mathematics.
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It's a suburb of Kansas City, Kansas.
The dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, who was born in 1953 (or late 1952), teaches either mathematics to "disadvantaged" students, or "special education, which includes mathematics.
It's been a while now, but the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher has in the past lit bonfires on Skins's island about mathematics, and about teaching mathematics.
Suffice it to say....."Blind leading the blind".