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Title: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: thundley4 on July 05, 2009, 02:26:16 PM
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Better Believe It   (1000+ posts)           Sun Jul-05-09 03:15 PM
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So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
   That's pretty easy to figure out.

Just read what Senate Republicans did to gut the House version of the stimulus bill.

But, we had a bi-partisan bill!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8512431
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dkf   (1000+ posts)             Sun Jul-05-09 03:18 PM
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1. Ooh nice one.
   
Yeah it doesn't seem to be working very well. Sigh.

A very small fire, and I think most DUmmies will steer clear of it.

Delusional DUmmie tries to rewrite history.  How stooopid can these idiots get?  It was widely reported by the LSM that the Republicans were blocked out of the stimulus package negotiations, and the bill passed on pretty much a party line vote.  Hey DUmmies, you have only Pelosi/Reid/0Bama to blame for the mess that we're in right now.
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: Peter3_1 on July 05, 2009, 02:40:06 PM
They will repeat this nonsense among themselves until it becomes an article of faith. They need to be called out when they lie amongst themselves like this.
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 05, 2009, 03:14:37 PM
Kinda hard to make BS like that stick when the Dems have clear majorities in both houses and own the Executive.

 :rotf:
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: thundley4 on July 05, 2009, 03:21:08 PM
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ritsofme (1000+ posts)             Sun Jul-05-09 03:35 PM
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3. So you have officially abandoned the recovery bill?
   
And declared it a work of the Republicans?

All 3 of them?

I think you run away too soon. I think it is likely that the stimulus bill has saved many hundreds of thousands of jobs already. Much of the money is not released until later this year as well.

But your desire to cast this bill as "Republican written" is bizarre.

This DUmmie at least knows who wrote the bill, but they are still falling for that "saved jobs" line from 0Bama.  If President Bush would have tried that line, the MSM would have been on him like white on rice. It's an unprovable claim, but it can't be disproved either.
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 05, 2009, 03:31:17 PM
The Oministration says that "three million jobs were saved because of the stimulus."  But, there's been over six million jobs lost in the whole economic downturn.  So, the Oministration insinuates that over nine million jobs would be lost without the stimulus.  Yet, less than 1% has gone to the traditional engine of job creation--privately-owned small businesses (about $750 million of $787 billion).

And the Oministration said that without the stimulus, unemployment would go over 8%.  Well, lurking DUmb****s, we got the stimulus--and unemployment is nearly 9.5%.

When the economy grinds to a halt, the DUmb****s will be the first ones dead.  I can't wait!
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: The Village Idiot on July 05, 2009, 03:32:01 PM
dkf seemed to be in awe as to the imagineering of the OP. Making things up on DU draws accolades?
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: thundley4 on July 05, 2009, 04:12:19 PM
The largest job growth sector under 0Bama has been in the federal government.
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: Lord Undies on July 05, 2009, 04:39:01 PM
The Little Goons and those like them thrive through their dishonesty.  They know it is all chronic bullsh*t.  Their audience knows it is chronic bullsh*t.  We know it is chronic bullsh*t.  But their dishonesty sustains them.  Their warped and incredibly stupid (and personally harmful) worldview and anti-humanity ideology requires it. 

It, liberalism, really reALLY REALLY is a mental illness.  It's not just a joke.  It's not just a put-down.  It is a fact.  It is on display on this DU thread.  No one can deny it.  They are very sick in the mind.  No sane person would choose to live a life which requires constant dishonesty and deceit while justifying that existence by lying to himself.

Once I had a "discussion" with a mentally ill liberal who claimed all was well in his world of dishonesty because being willing to lie and deceive is the only way to make the world "right".

The mind (the sane mind) boggles.
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: The Village Idiot on July 05, 2009, 05:05:20 PM
They lie to themselves all the time
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: Kimberly on July 05, 2009, 06:17:29 PM
Wow! A moment of clarity from a DUmmie. He's probably being alerted on right now for being a lousy freeper troll.

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lib2DaBone  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-05-09 05:38 PM
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9. Because our Senate and Congress are corrupt from top to bottom
 ..if they pass this Cap And Trade Bill... it will be the final nail in the coffin of the United States.

Little Timmmy Geithner and Obama and his buddies at Goldman Sacs will no longer have to steal.. we will have given them, legally, the legislation they need to drive a stake into the heart of America.

Watch as this bill as it is secreted through Congress with no comment from media or any committee, and signed into law at 11:00 p.m. on a Friday just before a holiday weekend... I'm thinking Labor Day...
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: Airwolf on July 05, 2009, 06:59:27 PM
This is all on your doorstep Dummies. You had the congress for the past four years and every oppertunity to stop any bill that came done the pike. Sorry but your lies won't last in the light of truth.
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 06, 2009, 04:27:21 AM
This is all on your doorstep Dummies. You had the congress for the past four years and every oppertunity to stop any bill that came done the pike. Sorry but your lies won't last in the light of truth.

What the truth about the "stimulus" bill is is very simple--Obama told Nancy Pelosi to write it.  That's why ACORN gets its disguised billion$ now and most of the money for infrastructure is back-loaded, due to be disbursed close to the 2012 elections.
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: miskie on July 06, 2009, 06:44:53 AM
So, the pretzel-logic is that to get Republicans to sign on, the Democrats allowed three of them to write the bill that the Democrats then stupidly voted for.. Wow..  Much Maui-Wowie went into the making of that post.
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: USA4ME on July 06, 2009, 07:35:02 AM
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Better Believe It

So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?

That's pretty easy to figure out.

Mainly because it isn't a "Republican written stimulus bill," it's a "Democratic written stimulus bill."

Yes, it was easy to figure out.

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Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: Karin on July 06, 2009, 10:59:08 AM
Man, that Better Believe It guy is one stubborn SOB.  He's told time and again that it's the Democrats' bill.  But, because Charley Rangel once said "3 Republican senators wrote it" (his quote) it must be true.  Case Closed.  No Questions Asked. 
Title: Re: So why isn't the Republican written "stimulus" bill creating many jobs?
Post by: miskie on July 06, 2009, 11:09:12 AM
Man, that Better Believe It guy is one stubborn SOB.  He's told time and again that it's the Democrats' bill.  But, because Charley Rangel once said "3 Republican senators wrote it" (his quote) it must be true.  Case Closed.  No Questions Asked. 

As many of us have said from the beginning - the purpose of Democrats wooing Republicans over this bill was to find someone to blame if it went wrong. And to claim claim strong leadership by Obama if it went right. If there is any truth to this Rangel quote, it proves that assertion.

It also suggests things are much worse than the Obamedia is letting us in on, if Rangel is already trying to blame the other side.