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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on July 04, 2009, 02:27:42 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5978646
Oh my.
The stuttering primitive:
ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-03-09 12:28 PM
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Organization Pays Addicted Women to Undergo Permanent Sterilization
A Tennessee non-profit organization is paying drug addicts and alcoholics to undergo sterilization or long-term contraception. Seriously.
Cash for birth control may sound unusual, but it’s one woman’s crusade to stop drug addicts and alcoholics from giving birth.
Barbara Harris started “Project Prevention†after watching her four adopted children struggle with drug addiction at birth. Now teens...blahblahblah...
It's a mixed bag, the primitives being both pro and con; racism inevitably pops up, as does the Roman Catholic church, those sorts of things.
And then the bonfire-killer.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-04-09 03:05 AM
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41. I wish my alcoholic father was sterilized.Than I would not have been forced to be born and suffer with the family he terrorized.
If addicted women are getting it done,it could be couched as exploiting them,but than again it is no joy growing up with a drunk that is vicious.What gets me is why the MEN are not getting it done? It puzzles me because when men try to shirk responsibility of kid making,they might find themselves forced to pay child support, or be locked up for not paying..So any rationale some addicted male cooks up for not getting a vasectomy is beyond me.
I sterilized myself years ago and I am not an addict, but I knew I did not EVER want kids ,as a kid.I made the decision to be child-free at a very young age.For years I had to argue and try to convince pro-child,sexist GYN's to let me get the operation done,even though the cost was paid for,they always said I would want kids someday,well they just didn't get it that I did not want to have kids.I asked to be sterilized at my first GYN appointment,and almost every appointment thereafter.It didn't happen until I was 27.If there was a clinic paying 300 bucks to get a tube tie I would have done it at age 14 or earlier.
But than again adults cannot imagine a kid being capable of such decisions, but I was capable,and no one listened.
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-04-09 03:05 AM
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41. I wish my alcoholic father was sterilized.Than I would not have been forced to be born and suffer with the family he terrorized...
I had a family wracked by drug abuse and domestic violence.
I said to myself, "Self, this is wrong...we shall not do this."
Life turned out pretty good.
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The subway cat can still rectify the situation with a retroactive abortion of herself. Just sayin'.
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Miss mr Kitty is a pathetic kitten that thinks its all grown up. It has never grown up. It refuses to grow up. It still has not let go of the past and its other problems. Oh no, kit, you most definitely ARE an addict. Of self-hate, self-torment, self-pitty, self-abuse who punishes herself/itself for not being the center of the universe.
No one has a perfect childhood, but most of us got over it. Thats called "Maturity" and its a trait that the the Litter Box does not have.
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Miss mr Kitty is a pathetic kitten that thinks its all grown up. It has never grown up. It refuses to grow up. It still has not let go of the past and its other problems. Oh no, kit, you most definitely ARE an addict. Of self-hate, self-torment, self-pitty, self-abuse who punishes herself/itself for not being the center of the universe.
What got me was that the subway cat never got fixed until she was 27 years old.
What's up with this "woman's 'right' to 'choose'" bit; if 14-year-olds can get abortions without parental consent, without prior medical counseling, surely 14-year-olds can get sterilized too.
I'll bet it took so long because the subway cat was just sitting around, waiting for someone else to pick up the tab.
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The subway cat can still rectify the situation with a retroactive abortion of herself. Just sayin'.
I really ain't to crazy about abortions myself........but here lately I've found myself beginning sortta in favor of late term Post-Birth abotions in certain cases.
I'm pretty sure UGP would qualify for one.
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I really ain't to crazy about abortions myself........but here lately I've found myself beginning sortta in favor of late term Post-Birth abotions in certain cases.
I'm pretty sure UGP would qualify for one.
Yeah, the primitives definitely challenge my own strong pro-life values.
Not the subway cat, but there's the three drek primitives--the skumbag primitive, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, and the high fructose corn syrup primitive--whose never having lived would've been a great boon to humanity.
But not that I wish their mothers had had an abortion; more so that I wish their mothers, when circa 6 months pregnant with them, had fallen down a flight of stairs or something.
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If Obama collapses the economy completely and leads us to civil war, I hope that there will be enough conservatives willing to do what needs to be done.... going all Robespierre or whtever
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I honestly think that if someone wants to be sterilized, no matter what the age, they should be allowed to do it.
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I honestly think that if someone wants to be sterilized, no matter what the age, they should be allowed to do it.
To an extent, I'd agree, but I think that a minor should be counselled to make sure they aren't coerced by a parent or someone else.
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-04-09 03:05 AM
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I sterilized myself years ago and I am not an addict, but I knew I did not EVER want kids ,as a kid.
Well done furball. :uhsure: :-)
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For what it's worth, no one is really forcing it to stay either.....
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I had a family wracked by drug abuse and domestic violence.
I said to myself, "Self, this is wrong...we shall not do this."
Life turned out pretty good.
Amazing isn't it? How does underground panties think civilization progresses? My step dad was a real SOB when I first came into contact with him. He used to kick every kid's ass if just one ****ed up! And I'm not talking just a slap on the ass, I'm talking fisticuffs! Eventually he found Christ and tried his damnedest to make amends. Did a pretty damn good job of it too!
The point is, I LEARNED from those experiences and kept from making the same mistakes. I can count the times I had to physically repremand my kids on one hand. 'Panties in a Bunch' will never understand that it does not keep happening the same, generation after generation.
Guess what Dirt Kitty, we learn, and we evolve! At least those of us that know shit from chocolate do! I think you and your brethren have yet to make the evolutionary jump.
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Than I would not have been forced to be born and suffer with the family he terrorized.
*facepalm*
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I honestly think that if someone wants to be sterilized, no matter what the age, they should be allowed to do it.
Especially if, at age three, they stole the roast from the family dinner table, took it under the front porch, and gnawed it while growling and howling, as UP claims to have done.
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Especially if, at age three, they stole the roast from the family dinner table, took it under the front porch, and gnawed it while growling and howling, as UP claims to have done.
U'r shitten me, right? She actually copped to this?
Perhaps she should have been put outa her misery then!
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Pfft. As if any man would want to throw a shot into the UGP. There just isn't enough booze......even at the liquor store......there isn't enough booze.
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Pfft. As if any man would want to throw a shot into the UGP. There just isn't enough booze......even at the liquor store......there isn't enough booze.
Maybe from a Barrett .50 BMG . . . at 2,000 meters.
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I'm suspecting the subway cat had a falling out with the male leech.
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Pfft. As if any man would want to throw a shot into the UGP. There just isn't enough booze......even at the liquor store......there isn't enough booze.
At least she got herself "fixed" before she could reproduce, although I doubt it would have been necessary in the first place....
Helen Thomas comes to mind.... :bolt:
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If addicted women are getting it done,it could be couched as exploiting them,but than again it is no joy growing up with a drunk that is vicious.What gets me is why the MEN are not getting it done? It puzzles me because when men try to shirk responsibility of kid making,they might find themselves forced to pay child support, or be locked up for not paying..So any rationale some addicted male cooks up for not getting a vasectomy is beyond me.
It really can't be this freaking stupid can it? Just how the hell does she think one would be able to make these drug addicted and alcoholic women only screw men who've had a vasectomy? Addicts aren't known to be particularly responsible.
Cindie
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Oh well at least it was spayed so I don't have to pay for any of it's offspring. Thank god for small miracles.
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Pfft. As if any man would want to throw a shot into the UGP. There just isn't enough booze......even at the liquor store......there isn't enough booze.
I'd throw a shot into her...if I could throw it with a .243...
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Hey stoopid Kitty
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs134.snc1/5730_1078153477409_1333433491_174023_6982113_s.jpg)
Wanna dance with this?
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But.. I thought Subway Kitty's youth was stolen -- not by an abusive father, but by the government. -That they used her for Area 51 style psychic experiments and forced her to drink lots of pineapple juice ? Dummies need to learn to keep their stories consistent.