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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on July 02, 2009, 04:41:49 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=226x7156
Oh my.
NikRik (16 posts) Wed Jul-01-09 09:30 AM
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driving a privledge not a right ?
Iam curious as to the specifics of this driving a car or motor cycle being a privledge not a right. Now believe me I do not want dangerous drivers on the road or people under the influence of a substance/drunk drivers etc !
However did they have to catagorize driving as a privledge in order to get these poeple off the road ,I believe the court system would have been able to do that without giving such power to states DMV having so much control that they can a will take away a person ability to operate a car or any method of transportation on our roads!
I have my own personal reason for being at odds with this. I have a ticket I recieved out of state in 1982 ,and the state in which this happen has put a hold on my ability to renew my driver license in my home state ,I have tried to rectify this matter with a out of state hearing ,however the novel size package of paper work that I filled out very carefully was rejected,not allowing me a hearing ?
They will not provide me with any info on which part of my paper work was unacceptable and every attempt at a new request to reapply comes along with a fifty dollare charge !
This is at a time when Iam employed only part time after being unemployed for alomost two years ,it is stopping me from getting a better paying job. The DMV in my home state says Iam clear to get a license from them since I have had no infractions that are listed becsue its been so long since I've had a valid lic they did not even hace a record of my license ? I had to show them my expired license to prove I indeed had one!
Is'nt there a certain point when I legal system should forgive almost any(stachute of limitations)misconduct,except murder of course or any crime that may have casued the death of another.
It looks like my only way to clear this thing up is to hire a attorney in that state and I've been quoted a price of aprx $5,000 a amount that is far out of my reach ,may as well be 5 million !
Just my humble opinion ,I do not wish to offend anyone and families who have lost loved ones to auto accidents or drunk drivers have my deepest sympathy , my case did not involve any accident or injury to anyone except was appears to be a life sentence for me when it comes to getting any job that requires a drivers license !
Iam very open minded and will respect the opinion of those who reply.
I dunno. I wouldn't want anybody that stupid with spelling and grammar behind the wheel of a motor vehicle, even a golf-cart.
BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-01-09 09:43 AM
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1. If it was me...(and I could)...I would get on a bus back to my home state...
...get a Cheap, Cheap room...get an Id...take your rent receipt and ID ...then apply for a Driver license in that state.
Get licence...come back and apply in the state you're in.
I know this sounds like a big hassle but it could be done in a week....and better than paying $5,000.
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-01-09 09:45 AM
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2. You should have paid that 1982 ticket
And try the spell check function. It could keep you from driving off a "privi-ledge".
You are free to drive without a license all you want as long as you stay on private land. Driving on public roads, which are paid for and maintained with public money, is subject to regulation.
...It looks like my only way to clear this thing up is to hire a attorney in that state and I've been quoted a price of aprx $5,000 a amount that is far out of my reach...
I suggest you contact your local legal aid society and see if you can find an attorney to take your case pro bono.
brendan120678 (400 posts) Wed Jul-01-09 09:46 AM
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3. First...paragraphs are your friend. Second...
you have the right and ability to travel freely from town to town, county to county, and state to state.
However, you do not have the right to do that traveling by driving. You may be granted that privilege, but it isn't necessarily a violation of one's Civil Rights to deny them a drivers license.
Yeah. Only God and the cats know how much time franksolich had to use, to take that nightmarish bonfire and break it up into paragraphs so it would be readable.
Historic NY (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-01-09 09:55 AM
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4. DMV's united..pay your ticket its called reciprocity oh & its granted by the court.
MajorChode (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-01-09 10:08 AM
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5. There's no "stachute(sic) of limitations" on the withholding of any type of license
A state can ban you from obtaining a driving license for life if they deem it necessary.
From what I can gather from your situation, you got a ticket in another state and you ignored addressing that legal issue in a timely matter. Now you are paying a price (albeit a very high one) for that mistake.
It sounds to me that there may be more to the story here. If it were a simple moving violation, most states are more than happy to accept delinquent fees (naturally greatly inflated from the original), in return for clearing the books of the charge. No hearing is usually necessary.
Uh-huh. There always is more to the story than what the primitives tale, er, tell.
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It sounds like a DUI or a leaving the scene of an accident charge, something is fishy that's for sure...... :loser:
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It sounds like a DUI or a leaving the scene of an accident charge, something is fishy that's for sure...... :loser:
Sounds like it got a ticket shortly before it left that state and decided not to pay because it was leaving. However since such things have been moved to national databases over the decade or so, it is likely this ticket and the summary judgement against it in court have caught up with it. It's probably more reasonable to just pay the fine.
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Here in Idaho, if you have an out of state license, you have to post a $2000 bond, just to get outa the pokey. That way if you leave the state and "forget" to come back for court, we keep your 2 grand! Seems to work pretty good!
Oh, and by the way, I LOVE out of staters!!!!!!!!!
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-01-09 10:08 AM
...It sounds to me that there may be more to the story here. If it were a simple moving violation, most states are more than happy to accept delinquent fees (naturally greatly inflated from the original), in return for clearing the books of the charge. No hearing is usually necessary.
Yes, my good MajorChode, that is EXACTLY what it sounds like to me as well.
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slackmaster
And try the spell check function.
Guarantee you the majority of the primitives posts read just like NikRik's before they use the spell check feature.
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...The DMV in my home state says Iam clear to get a license from them since I have had no infractions that are listed becsue its been so long since I've had a valid lic they did not even hace a record of my license ?...
So, what's the problem?
DMV says he can get a license, so GO GET THE DAMNED LICENSE!
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So, what's the problem?
DMV says he can get a license, so GO GET THE DAMNED LICENSE!
I don't think the primitive can.
There's some information omitted from this tale of woe.
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I don't think the primitive can.
There's some information omitted from this tale of woe.
No doubt....
Probably can't pass the written test, keeps getting kicked out of the DMV for crayon scribble on the terminal screen....
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No doubt....
Probably can't pass the written test, keeps getting kicked out of the DMV for crayon scribble on the terminal screen....
I dunno.
This being a primitive, I suspect the hold-up has something to do with a, uh, criminal matter that the primitive's not being honest about.
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Actually it sounds like the 'Little problem' is much more serious than the DUmmie wants to let on, such as skipping out on an O.R. bond for jail time on a misdemeanor like DUI, hit and run, driving while revoked or suspended.
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Actually it sounds like the 'Little problem' is much more serious than the DUmmie wants to let on, such as skipping out on an O.R. bond for jail time on a misdemeanor like DUI, hit and run, driving while revoked or suspended.
Just about the only thing that will keep you from gettin' a license state to state is DUI.