Obama is deeply concerned. Sure he is.
Let recap what happened.
1) The Honduran constitution limited the prez to specified terms in office and then he was out.
2) the Prez wanted more terms in office. So like all good lefties ignored the constitution and decided to hold a special election so he could have his way.
3) the Honduran supreme court said NO. The Military said NO. The Honduran congress said NO.
4) The Commie/leftist pres liberated the ballots from the election commision and stored them in his home.
5) then the Prez fired the commander of the military for saying NO. The Commander ignored him
6) the military had enough of this lawlessness, and kicked the Prezidente's butt outa the country
The only mistake I see is the military, their actions were flawless, except they didn't KILL the lefty threat. The Prez will be back to stir up trouble.
Hugo is threatening war. I believe him because he has been using a false American threat as a pretense to build up for an invasion of his neighbors for years.
Obamasssah is upset because he is seeing what could happen to him in a few years. Lefties are ALL alike.
Obama and socialist Europe, "OH MY! One of "us" has been ousted......without U.S. involvement. This could mean people really don't want socialism."
WSJ Update: Obama Worked To Prevent Ouster of Honduras PresidentLink (http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=200906281405dowjonesdjonline000276&title=wsj-update-obama-worked-to-prevent-ouster-of-honduras-president)
By Jay Solomon, Of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
The Obama administration worked in recent days to prevent President Manuel Zelaya's ouster, said a senior U.S. official. The State Department, in particular, communicated to Honduran officials on the ground that President Barack Obama wouldn't support any nondemocratic transfer of power in the Central American country.
"We had some indication that a move against Mr. Zelaya was afoot," said a U.S. official briefed on the diplomacy. "We made it clear it was something we didn't support."
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton joined Obama Sunday in criticizing the Honduran coup and calling for the restoration of the democratic process.
"We call on all parties in Honduras to respect the constitutional order and the rule of law, to reaffirm their democratic vocation, and to commit themselves to resolve political disputes peacefully and through dialogue," Clinton said in a statement.
Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-28-09 10:00 PM
Original message
After the fascist coup in Honduras, can anyone STILL defend the School of the Americas? Updated at 8:54 PM
Since our military trained those Honduran fascists, can we now all agree that the School should be closed forever?
It's time for us to stop training reactionary killers.
"bipartisanship" and "looking tough" are never worth the loss of innocent lives.
billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-28-09 10:02 PM
Response to Original message
1. The school that launched a hundred Abu Ghraibs.
Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-28-09 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. The coup was by people who want Honduras to be right-wing forever. Updated at 8:54 PM
It's only antidemocratic reactionaries who wanted Zelaya overthrown. And they couldn't have done it without the Army.
P.S., no Supreme Court anywhere in the world has the right to overthrow a democratic government.
Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-28-09 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. I'm sure Cubans wish they had term limits.
Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-28-09 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. The U.S. term limits were imposed by Republicans
They were meant to make sure we never had another FDR.
We've been permanently pushed to the right as a result.
And Zelaya wasn't a nutjob or undemocratic.
He was having a referendum. How is THAT undemocratic? It's undemocratic to let the people decide this?
Now that the coup's in place, the right-wing status quo will be locked in place in Honduras forever. How can you be good with that?
Forced turnover in office means there's no instutitional memory, which means the right always has the upper hand. It means politics like Newt Gingrich gave us. It would've meant Ron Dellums being forced out of Congress decades earlier, which would only have benefited the rich. Term limits are never good for the people. That's why Republicans like them.
How can you defend anything Newt Gingrich would do?
The Hondurian military took matters into control without first consulting the primitives. How dare they!
Poor primitives.
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Forced turnover in office means there's no instutitional memory, which means the right always has the upper hand. It means politics like Newt Gingrich gave us. It would've meant Ron Dellums being forced out of Congress decades earlier, which would only have benefited the rich. Term limits are never good for the people. That's why Republicans like them.
How can you defend anything Newt Gingrich would do?
Amazing how when people who are fighting for democracy and freedom suffer, he has nothing to say, but when people who wish to oppress others are ousted, he's on that like white on rice.
Telling, indeed.
Kudos to the Hondo army for supporting and defending its Constitution.
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Hugo is threatening war. I believe him because he has been using a false American threat as a pretense to build up for an invasion of his neighbors for years.
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War is kind of an empty threat given the relative geographical locations of Honduras and Venezuela.Iran v Lebanon?
Very constitutional coup
Army, broad political base thwart power grab
By Juan Diego Zelaya
(http://media.washingtontimes.com/media/img/photos/2009/06/30/20090629-230224-pic-202462342_r350x200.jpg?0babd24c675f3097b9d1ff106ec8653055db7939) <snip> ...During his last year, he embarked on a mission to carry out a total reform of our constitution, following the well-tested formula of Mr. Chavez and Equador's President Rafael Correa so he could remain in power "constitutionally."
Running a campaign disguised as promoting change for the people and true direct participation of the masses, he started to promote this project with all his executive might. The judicial branch deemed this project illegal, as did our electoral tribunal and the Attorney General's Office.
Nonetheless, these institutions started to be portrayed as part of the groups of power that were afraid of change, tyrants opposed to the people of our country, who did not want people to express themselves. Whatever person or institution went against his project was also an enemy of the people. Sound familiar, Mr. Chavez?
Last week, Mr. Zelaya issued executive orders to the armed forces to carry out the first phase of the constitutional reform project. The head of the armed forces, knowing that this order was illegal and unconstitutional, said "No." Mr. Zelaya went on national TV and fired Gen. Romeo Vasquez for refusing to carry out the order, but our nation's Supreme Court reinstated him. The firing was a clear signal Mr. Zelaya was putting his personal ambition and interests before any genuine interest to change things and improve the quality of life of Hondurans.
<snip>
Washington Times Link (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/30/very-constitutional-coup/)
During his last year, he embarked on a mission to carry out a total reform of our constitution, following the well-tested formula of Mr. Chavez and Equador's President Rafael Correa so he could remain in power "constitutionally."
Running a campaign disguised as promoting change for the people and true direct participation of the masses, he started to promote this project with all his executive might. The judicial branch deemed this project illegal, as did our electoral tribunal and the Attorney General's Office.
Nonetheless, these institutions started to be portrayed as part of the groups of power that were afraid of change, tyrants opposed to the people of our country, who did not want people to express themselves. Whatever person or institution went against his project was also an enemy of the people. Sound familiar, Mr. Obama?
Last week, Mr. Obama issued executive orders to the armed forces to carry out the first phase of the constitutional reform project. The head of the armed forces, knowing that this order was illegal and unconstitutional, said "No." Mr. Obama went on national TV and fired Gen. Romeo Vasquez for refusing to carry out the order, but our nation's Supreme Court reinstated him. The firing was a clear signal Mr.Obama was putting his personal ambition and interests before any genuine interest to change things and improve the quality of life of Americans.
If I change a few words Dutch, does this sound like it could happen, considering the reaction of 'Dear Leader"?
QuoteDuring his last year, he embarked on a mission to carry out a total reform of our constitution, following the well-tested formula of Mr. Chavez and Equador's President Rafael Correa so he could remain in power "constitutionally."
Running a campaign disguised as promoting change for the people and true direct participation of the masses, he started to promote this project with all his executive might. The judicial branch deemed this project illegal, as did our electoral tribunal and the Attorney General's Office.
Nonetheless, these institutions started to be portrayed as part of the groups of power that were afraid of change, tyrants opposed to the people of our country, who did not want people to express themselves. Whatever person or institution went against his project was also an enemy of the people. Sound familiar, Mr. Obama?
Last week, Mr. Obama issued executive orders to the armed forces to carry out the first phase of the constitutional reform project. The head of the armed forces, knowing that this order was illegal and unconstitutional, said "No." Mr. Obama went on national TV and fired Gen. Romeo Vasquez for refusing to carry out the order, but our nation's Supreme Court reinstated him. The firing was a clear signal Mr.Obama was putting his personal ambition and interests before any genuine interest to change things and improve the quality of life of Americans.
Exactly what I was thinking when I found this little article, and exactly why I think Lord Øbamessiah reacted the way that he has. The whole media coverage of this has been presented as a "military coup", when in fact it was nothing of the sort: it was instead the military as ONE ARM of the executive Branch of the Honduras government recognizing it's responsibilities, and PEACEFULLY refusing to step beyond that mandate. "If I didn't know better", I'd say that the Honduras Army has been following in the example and footsteps of the US Military's officer corps. Which hs got to be giving Lord Øbama ulcers at the moment.
Honduras leaves OAS after body decries coup (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jAkMGKIUDg_ngUiZboxQbYj5_DPwD997O24G0)
TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras (AP) — Honduras rebuffed demands by the international community to reinstate President Manuel Zelaya and pulled out of the Organization of American States, thrusting the poor Central American nation deeper into political crisis and isolation.
Zelaya was traveling in Central America but planned to return to Honduras on Sunday, according to Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega. Honduras' interim government has said it will arrest Zelaya if he returns, setting up a potentially volatile showdown.
"The government rejects the attempts of the OAS to impose unilateral resolutions," said the letter read by deputy foreign minister Martha Lorena Alvarado.
Neighboring countries have imposed trade blockades, major lenders have cut aid, the Obama administration has halted joint military operations and all European Union ambassadors have abandoned the country.
He did see an older man in a white shirt reach down into the blood pool and cover his hands. He then wiped them on his shirt to make it look like his blood or that he had been involved. Hunter saw what he thought was an AP photographer take the man's picture. Hunter said if you see it on the web, don't believe it. It was faked.
http://hondurasabandoned.blogspot.com/2009/07/update-4.html#comments
If you look at the man in the photo, it is clear that the blood was not the result of a wound, but was wiped on his shirt, just like Hunter said. This photo was staged, although the Reuters photographer did not necessarily know it.
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/07/reuters-runs-staged-photo-of-bloody.html
The crisis is seen as a diplomatic test for U.S. President Barack Obama as he seeks to improve relations with Latin America, where a growing bloc of leftist leaders that includes Zelaya has challenged Washington's influence in recent years.
Obama's administration has condemned the coup, cut $16.5 million in military aid and threatened to slash economic aid.
The U.S. State Department said it remained focused on mediation, and that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had made clear to the interim government there would be consequences if it failed to reach a deal.
"The secretary made very clear . . . that it's important for the de facto regime to take a serious look at the mediation effort by President Arias and to look at the seven-point plan very hard and try to . . . come to an agreement with President Zelaya and his representatives," department deputy spokesman Robert Wood told a briefing.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Honduras+talks+postponed/1815631/story.html
An update from the jug-eared Kenyan's administration...
Now, does our erstwhile President still want someone that has been caught cheating, to lead a country? Apparently so . . .
In a welcome about-face, the State Department told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's Richard Lugar, R-Ind., in a letter Tuesday that the U.S. would no longer threaten sanctions on Honduras for ousting its president, Mel Zelaya, last June 28.
Nor will it insist on Zelaya's return to power. As it turns out, the U.S. Senate can't find any legal reason why the Honduran Supreme Court's refusal to let Zelaya stay in office beyond the time allowed by Honduran law constitutes a "military coup."
http://www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=334537207260360