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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2008 => Topic started by: Chris_ on February 21, 2008, 06:59:36 PM
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Starting on CNN in a moment. They'll have to interrupt their 24x7 discussion of the NYT-McCain non-news for an hour or two. I found an audio feed of CNN TV if you don't have cable and/or don't want to actually LOOK at either of the candidates.
http://www.cnn.com/audio/radio/cnntv.html
I have a headache, so might not be around much tonight. Have at it. :cheersmate:
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They have a Univision anchor and someone from CNN as presenters/moderators/whatevers at the University of Texas.
Lots of cheering from the audience. I don't see much to get excited about... must be a meeting of the UT Communist Party in the audience. :-)
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Hilllary: "This isn't MY campaign... this is YOUR campaign." ::) :bs:
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Aaaaand, Obama comes out of his corner swinging. A sob story to the midsection, followed by an outsourcing, and an empty promise.
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Obama: "Wages and income have flatlined. People have been struggling for decades."
He wants to remove the income tax on Social Security. The Clinton Legacy will not be amused.
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Raise your arm if you were "hoodwinked" into signing your mortgage papers. :mental:
Millions of homeless! Noooo!! :bawl:
Not owning your own home does not = homeless. :bs:
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I'm more entertained by your commentary than I would be if I were actually watching the debate.
:popcorn:
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Immigration question from the Univision guy. I hope he doesn't plan on jabbering en Espanol all night. "Would you consider stopping immigration raids on businesses?"
Clinton: Yes
Obama: Yes
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I'm more entertained by your commentary than I would be if I were actually watching the debate.
:popcorn:
Where's WE? He's better at this than I am.
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Immigration question from the Univision guy. I hope he doesn't plan on jabbering en Espanol all night. "Would you consider stopping immigration raids on businesses?"
Clinton: Yes
Obama: Yes
:bird: to Clinton and Obama.
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I'm more entertained by your commentary than I would be if I were actually watching the debate.
:popcorn:
Where's WE? He's better at this than I am.
He is busy reading unread topics (like he has been for the last several hours). :lmao:
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Sure, it's the employers exploiting the illegal aliens, Barry. Both the Dems want them to pay a
bribe fine to stay here. Do you remember the immigration bill from last year? The bribe was $5000, payable over ten years. That's less than $50 a month.
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UT Communist Party in the audience. :-)
The entire student body is there?!
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The border fence started falling apart on January 20, 2001. ::)
President Clinton signed SEVEN extensions to the 1986 IRCA bill legalizing millions more people here unlawfully. They know if another Democrat gets in office, all they have to do is wait.
:bird: :bird:
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Re: Illegal Alien from Mexico Problem:
Why doesn't some politician call on Mexico to improve conditions in their own country? Have they, at long last, no shame?
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Clinton is another pro "virtual" border proponent. That way, it won't actually hinder anyone trying to cross. You know, because that might upset families, puppy dogs, and rainbows. :banghead:
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More jabbering en Espanol. "Is there a downside to the United States becoming a bi-lingual nation?"
Clinton: No. HRC is against English being the official language of the United States.
Obama: No. The BarackStar wants to make learning a second languange mandatory. He's a pushy little shit. :whatever:
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Commercial break/beer run. Be back in a few. :cheersmate:
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More jabbering en Espanol. "Is there a downside to the United States becoming a bi-lingual nation?"
Clinton: No. HRC is against English being the official language of the United States.
Obama: No. The BarackStar wants to make learning a second languange mandatory. He's a pushy little shit. :whatever:
Once again, my reaction: :bird:
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Clinton won't even admit that the situation in Iraq has improved. What a dirtbag.
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How can Barack complain about the cost of the military operations in Iraq when he's already spent three quarters of a trillion dollars and hasn't even gotten the nomination? What balls.
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Clinton: "the wasteful tax cuts of the Bush administration."
She wants to raise taxes on families making $250,000.
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Clinton: "the wasteful tax cuts of the Bush administration."
She wants to raise taxes on families making $250,000.
Wasteful tax cuts? Well, Hillary has just proven that she is truly a Democrat. Spend spend spend with no care in the world, and when the money runs out, demand more money from an already overtaxed population. :banghead:
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Clinton got a round of applause for marrying a cheating slob. :whatever:
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hillary counts her husband's serial philandering as "crises" that she has been through that make
her somehow qualified for the presidency?
interesting.
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How can Barack complain about the cost of the military operations in Iraq when he's already spent three quarters of a trillion dollars and hasn't even gotten the nomination? What balls.
because it's money that he can't squander on idiotic and incentive destroying social programs.
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Uh oh. Hillary is going after BHO's "change" dreck.
I wonder if they told her to do that dreamy, far-away sound while she talks. You know she hired a speech coach?
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the thing I hate the most about liberalism, and you see examples of it all the time; the substitution, or at least the equation, of the federal government for the family.
hillary just ended the debate with exactly that formulation.
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the thing I hate the most about liberalism, and you see examples of it all the time; the substitution, or at least the equation, of the federal government for the family.
hillary just ended the debate with exactly that formulation.
oh, and she got a standing ovation. :whatever:
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Doesn't matter who it is, McCain is going to eat their lunch when they actually have to answer one of their dumbass positions.
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Doesn't matter who it is, McCain is going to eat their lunch when they actually have to answer one of their dumbass positions.
they have successfully managed to chase each other into extreme leftist positions that will be difficult to explain in the general election. that is one thing we get from such a close dem race (aided by what turns out to be the silly "proportional allocation" of convention delegates). but The BarackStar! is a phenomenon. there is no telling where it will go, or how long it will last.
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Doesn't matter who it is, McCain is going to eat their lunch when they actually have to answer one of their dumbass positions.
they have successfully managed to chase each other into extreme leftist positions that will be difficult to explain in the general election. that is one thing we get from such a close dem race (aided by what turns out to be the silly "proportional allocation" of convention delegates). but The BarackStar! is a phenomenon. there is no telling where it will go, or how long it will last.
Barrock has the Andrew Sullivan wing of the Republican party all sewn up. I'm surprised McCain hasn't stopped his campaign in support of Obama yet. One of McCain's guys say he wont attack Obama if it is McCain v. Obama in the fall.
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Six months until the general election. Do you think he can keep up the hype?
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Six months until the general election. Do you think he can keep up the hype?
I doubt it.
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Six months until the general election. Do you think he can keep up the hype?
I think that the only thing that may save us is that, as a culture, we are stricken with a severe case of attention deficit disorder; we get tired of the things we get enamored with fairly quickly. The BarackStar! is peaking now, which probably isn't great news for him.
from now until november, he will only seem more and more like a normal human being.
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Six months until the general election. Do you think he can keep up the hype?
I think the media is already getting bored with him. But things tend to move in waves. He could go down and then peak again. But who knows.
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Six months until the general election. Do you think he can keep up the hype?
I think the media is already getting bored with him. But things tend to move in waves. He could go down and then peak again. But who knows.
Six months is a long time. Six months ago, Giuliani was at the top of the heap and McCain was broke. :(
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Six months until the general election. Do you think he can keep up the hype?
I think the media is already getting bored with him. But things tend to move in waves. He could go down and then peak again. But who knows.
Six months is a long time. Six months ago, Giuliani was at the top of the heap and McCain was broke. :(
Yeah, six months from now, we could build the space ship to Alpha Centauri and win the game of Civilization making elections obsolete :-)
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I missed the first part of the debate, and the rebroadcast doesn't air until midnight, but I was surfing for
debate discussion, and ran across this quote:
OBAMA: You know, I've heard from an Army captain who was the head of a
rifle platoon — supposed to have 39 men in a rifle platoon. Ended up
being sent to Afghanistan with 24 because 15 of those soldiers had been
sent to Iraq.
And as a consequence, they didn't have enough ammunition,
they didn't have enough Humvees. They were actually capturing Taliban
weapons, because it was easier to get Taliban weapons than it was for
them to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief.
did The BarackStar! actually say that?
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That is pretty stupid. For one, a Captain would be commanding a company not a platoon, generally.
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the rebroadcast is coming on CNN now . . . . and it's starting pleasantly enough :-)
(http://www.bergproperties.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/campbell-brown-pic.jpg)
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I swear, I heard a woman yell "I want to have your baby, Barack!" when he walked on stage . . . :whatever:
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That is pretty stupid. For one, a Captain would be commanding a company not a platoon, generally.
I am surprised the dumb ass did not say a General.
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That is pretty stupid. For one, a Captain would be commanding a company not a platoon, generally.
I am surprised the dumb ass did not say a General.
or, "some guy wearing green".
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The BarackStar! is sooooooooooo playing it safe. 20 minutes in, he is simply rewording hillary's answers.
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this is a freaking lovefest. :kumbaya: hillary should be going for the jugular. :whatever:
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hillary : "end george bush's war on science" :whatever: :lmao:
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it's ironic that hillary is getting killed by this guy. it's a given that she is completely wrong on the issues, she at least knows the issues inside and out; he clearly does not. The BarackStar! is much better on the stump, where he can read his (mostly stolen) poetry, than on the debate stage, where he really does need to say something with some substance to it, but can't.
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The BarackStar! (paraphrased) : "it isn't about policy positions, it's about inspiring people to rise above themselves . . . . or nothing will change in washington."
jeeebuss. does he have any idea what he is talking about? he wants a job where he has to maintain the everyone in the country's inspiration for four years? he wants his administration to rely on THAT? if he does get elected, this is going to be entertaining beyond words.
on edit : the point being that he is all but admitting that he will have to maintain this level of euphoria among The BarackStar! zombies, or he will utterly fail.
and I wonder how the democrat congressional leadership is going to take being demonized by their standard bearer in the general election. nancy and stretch have notoriously thin skin.
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I missed the first part of the debate, and the rebroadcast doesn't air until midnight, but I was surfing for
debate discussion, and ran across this quote:
OBAMA: You know, I've heard from an Army captain who was the head of a
rifle platoon — supposed to have 39 men in a rifle platoon. Ended up
being sent to Afghanistan with 24 because 15 of those soldiers had been
sent to Iraq.
And as a consequence, they didn't have enough ammunition,
they didn't have enough Humvees. They were actually capturing Taliban
weapons, because it was easier to get Taliban weapons than it was for
them to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief.
did The BarackStar! actually say that?
yep. I caught it this time. he said it. but he sort of hesitated and stumbled through it, and his eyes darted and blinked a bit; all indications that we was either exaggerating or making the whole damn thing up out of whole cloth.
oh, and he pronounced "taliban" with what I suspect is the authentic pronunciation. (tall-ee-bon). that struck me as odd. it was as though he was going out of his way to get that one word right.
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and I have noticed that he is starting a lot of sentences with, "understand that . . . . ", and then goes on to basically confuse whatever point that he may have just inadvertently made with any clarity at all.
"understand that . . . " is going to get old very quickly if he keeps this up. I haven't noticed this habit of speech before tonight, but it is jumping out at me in this debate.
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I missed the first part of the debate, and the rebroadcast doesn't air until midnight, but I was surfing for
debate discussion, and ran across this quote:
OBAMA: You know, I've heard from an Army captain who was the head of a
rifle platoon — supposed to have 39 men in a rifle platoon. Ended up
being sent to Afghanistan with 24 because 15 of those soldiers had been
sent to Iraq.
And as a consequence, they didn't have enough ammunition,
they didn't have enough Humvees. They were actually capturing Taliban
weapons, because it was easier to get Taliban weapons than it was for
them to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief.
did The BarackStar! actually say that?
Yes, he did...and people are jumping all over it....
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/21/obama-on-afghanistan/
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it's ironic that hillary is getting killed by this guy. it's a given that she is completely wrong on the issues, she at least knows the issues inside and out; he clearly does not. The BarackStar! is much better on the stump, where he can read his (mostly stolen) poetry, than on the debate stage, where he really does need to say something with some substance to it, but can't.
His speeches sound like Rush's parodies:"The future is in the future and not in the past. The past was back before but now we can see the future is not here yet." "Hope is hopeful so we all need to hope hope will continue to be hopeful."
The man is a waking collection of platitudes.
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I missed the first part of the debate, and the rebroadcast doesn't air until midnight, but I was surfing for
debate discussion, and ran across this quote:
OBAMA: You know, I've heard from an Army captain who was the head of a
rifle platoon — supposed to have 39 men in a rifle platoon. Ended up
being sent to Afghanistan with 24 because 15 of those soldiers had been
sent to Iraq.
And as a consequence, they didn't have enough ammunition,
they didn't have enough Humvees. They were actually capturing Taliban
weapons, because it was easier to get Taliban weapons than it was for
them to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief.
did The BarackStar! actually say that?
Rush was all over that today. Hell, he even put Bo Snerdley on the air and let him have the show for a while. They were not pleased.
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I missed the first part of the debate, and the rebroadcast doesn't air until midnight, but I was surfing for
debate discussion, and ran across this quote:
OBAMA: You know, I've heard from an Army captain who was the head of a
rifle platoon — supposed to have 39 men in a rifle platoon. Ended up
being sent to Afghanistan with 24 because 15 of those soldiers had been
sent to Iraq.
And as a consequence, they didn't have enough ammunition,
they didn't have enough Humvees. They were actually capturing Taliban
weapons, because it was easier to get Taliban weapons than it was for
them to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief.
did The BarackStar! actually say that?
Rush was all over that today. Hell, he even put Bo Snerdley on the air and let him have the show for a while. They were not pleased.
That was hilarious! And every time he had a criticism of Barrock, he had to call Bo back to the mike.
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Barrack-oh-star reminds me of a black televangelist shucking and jiving..
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Another Democratic debate tonight @ 9PM EST in Ohio.
The last one was a laugh riot. I'm going to see if I can find an audio stream for MSNBC.
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Another Democratic debate tonight @ 9PM EST in Ohio.
The last one was a laugh riot. I'm going to see if I can find an audio stream for MSNBC.
I think American Idol is on tonight and I think the banter between Paula and Simon is of a higher quality than hussein and satan.