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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Traveshamockery on June 19, 2009, 05:53:42 AM
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Those silly Republicans are trying to ruin the dummie's dreams of single payer healthcare.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5875715
Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Thu Jun-18-09 02:26 PM
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EMERGENCY: WH says more people calling AGAINST public plan than FOR IT!!!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/18/744070/-EME... !!!
However i've called the White House and the many listed senators and those of the HELP committee every day this week since before last Thursday. And after imploring daily to tell their elected official including the president that the public plan is NON-NEGOTIABLE (no to 7 year trigger, no to taxing employer health benefits, no to daschle/dole, etc) the people on the receiving end of my phonecalls say that they have BARELY heard from us. This is NO exaggeration. I was about to cry. The wingnuts and freepers are winning this.
They, even the blue states at Barbara Boxer or Diane Feinstein's office (I'm from CA) say they get FAR more calls AGAINST the public option than for it. This includes the White House. I told the comment operators at thew the whitehouse or Senate offices that a poll came out yesterday saying 76% in the new NBC/WSJ poll support the Public Option. They laughed and asked "Really????"
P.S.: The white house comment operator told me that if i really want to get my message to the president, you MUST EMAIL AS WELL AS CALLING. I say that goes for the Senators of the HELP committee listed in slinkerwink's diary.
Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121
Capitol Hill toll free: 800-828-0498, they will connect you with your congresscritter.
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senat... to find your Senator and contact info for phone/web forms
Contact info for your Reps: http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW_by_State.shtml#ca
White house: CALL the White House at: 202-456-1111, http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact /
General White House number : 202-456-1414
Senators on the HELP Committee
Tom Harkin (IA): (202) 224-3254
Barbara A. Mikulski (MD): (202) 224-4654
Jeff Bingaman (NM): (202) 224-5521
Patty Murray (WA: (202) 224-2621
Jack Reed (RI): (202) 224-4642
Bernard Sanders (I) (VT): (202) 224-5141
Sherrod Brown (OH): (202) 224-2315
Robert P. Casey, Jr. (PA): (202) 224-6324
Kay Hagan (NC): (202) 224-6342
Jeff Merkley (OR): (202) 224-3753
Toll free numbers for Capital Hill:
800-828-0498
1-800-828-0498
1-866-338-1015
1-866-220-0044
1-877-851-6437
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/18/743877/-Pri...
Texas Toast wants to know what the script is. Perhaps TT can have David Letterman write the script.
texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-18-09 02:38 PM
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6. "The wingnut and freepers are winning on this"
And all along I thought the Republican Party was in disarray. Pish tosh. Not so long as they have Mein Furor Rush. Not surprising that the Dem side is becoming complacent. Wickedness never sleeps.
Okay, what is our script?
Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts)Thu Jun-18-09 02:43 PM
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8. FAX: 202-456-2461
Do not underestimate the organizational skills of the opposition. I can't get through to the White House via phone, so I've sent a fax.
This dummie is ready to get out the pitchforks and torches, which he will proceed to puncture some part of his body with and then burn himself with his torch. And still NO public health plan to take care of his injuries.
bkkyosemite Donating Member (847 posts)
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56. IT'S TIME WE TAKE TO THE STREETS FOR PUBLIC OPTION!!!
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Guess what you imbeciles?
We are going to have foisted on us the worst of all worlds because of your begging for an unrealistic and impossible utopia.
A wrecked economy that barely limps along funding a massive and bumbling government.
I don`t mean to sound bitter and all you will do is gripe that it is a conspricy against you but I hope the first one to find out their loved one simply isn`t worth getting life saving treatment is a DUmmy.
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-19-09 01:06 AM
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117. The Repubs pay people to post on our blogs. Think they don't pay callers as well? nt
Of course the republicans pay people to post at the DUmp. It's called welfare.
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Of course the republicans pay people to post at the DUmp. It's called welfare.
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So that's why I'm not getting a check.....I've been posting on the wrong site.
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Guess what you imbeciles?
We are going to have foisted on us the worst of all worlds because of your begging for an unrealistic and impossible utopia.
A wrecked economy that barely limps along funding a massive and bumbling government.
in america, we call that "california"!
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in america, we call that "california"!
On this coast it is New York.
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Of course the republicans pay people to post at the DUmp. It's called welfare.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Seriously, if people are getting paid to post of DUmmy blogs, could I get in on the action? Hook me up here :-)
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I told y'all the LiTtLe gOOn wOrLD is crumbling. They demand a wOrLD where clinics and hospitals don't even have an accounting department. A wOrLD where the inflicted, infirmed, injured, deluded, and addicted give the orders and the enslaved-yet-dedicated medical professionals dutifully comply.
The thought of the few LiTtLe gOONs individually "taking to the streets" in their little isolated neighborhoods is hilarious. So is their willful ignorance about the reality that a vast majority of this nation's citizens don't want "Washington" to do a damn thing but leave us alone.
Crumbling, I tell ya. Like Feta cheese.
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How about this DUmmies. Find some actual financial estimates for this plan. Demonstrate how much different levels of universal care will cost, and show where that money will come from. A large portion of this country actually has to budget their money, and we know that you can't budget for something without at least some basic estimates. And how comprehensive will the coverage be? Right now, my insurance covers just about everything. Will I get that coverage? How will doctors and nurses get paid, and will it match their current salaries?
All I hear is how awful it is that there are uninsured people, and how they need healthcare, but nothing about estimated costs for the program. Hospitals have had to shut down because so many uninsured people were visiting them and not paying. How will this program account for those costs, and how much will my taxes increase. Taxing luxuries is not sustainable in the long run, because people will stop buying them to save money.
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Hey T-mockery: That was hilarious; caught me off guard.
Rose, the last time someone tried a luxury tax, didn't it last about 45 minutes before being recognized as a horrible debacle?
Undies, the DUmpers believe that doctors should be doing their work out of the pure goodness of their hearts. They really do. An actual profit motive makes their heads explode, doesn't it? I just don't get them. Would a talented smart guy work horrendous hours doing mostly unpleasant things, having to touch the likes of SystematicChaos just to get a warm fuzzy feeling? Nurses too?
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Just a word about the OP's statement on the "76% support a public option." Here's a little more granularity:
From the Wall Street Journal:
There was also support for the Democratic push to let people sign up for a public health-care plan that would compete with private companies, one of the toughest issues in the health-care debate. Three in four people said a public plan is extremely or quite important. But when told the arguments for and against the plan, a smaller portion, 47%, agreed with arguments in support of the plan, with 42% agreeing with the arguments against it.
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I think they're making a mistake assuming it's all the Republicans.
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I think they're making a mistake assuming it's all the Republicans.
Any other assumption would require facing their weakness. They would rather live in dishonesty and purposeful denial.
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Crumbling, I tell ya. Like Feta cheese.
Don't insult Feta cheese. :hammer:
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Don't insult Feta cheese. :hammer:
Or even fetid cheese.
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I'd like to know just where it says anyone that works in a hospital or a doctors office should have to give thier services for free after years of schools and residency requirements and paying off student loans.
The only possibly way you DUmp rats are going to get free health care is if GOD himself healed you and asked for nothing in return. That's the only way it will ever be "FREE" to you. Your idea of free healthcare is for someone else to get stuck with the cost. So in not so many words to you FOAD, your freelaoding crack addicts.
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You tell 'em, the primitives, Airwolf, sir.
They don't listen to me, but they might listen to you.
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I'd like to know just where it says anyone that works in a hospital or a doctors office should have to give thier services for free after years of schools and residency requirements and paying off student loans.
The only possibly way you DUmp rats are going to get free health care is if GOD himself healed you and asked for nothing in return. That's the only way it will ever be "FREE" to you. Your idea of free healthcare is for someone else to get stuck with the cost. So in not so many words to you FOAD, your freelaoding crack addicts.
I have worked for many, many years as a self-employed medical transcriptionist from home. About a year ago, the family doctor I worked for closed her practice. She said she was not making money and in fact, she was losing money. She is one of those caring family doctors who also volunteers her time, services, and knowledge at community clinics for free.
Anyway, she didn't have a partner in her practice but she split the overhead with another family doctor in the same office. Between these two doctors, they had these employees: A receptionist, an office manager, two medical assistants, and two nurses. And then there was me but I was not considered an employee.
The reason they had so many people working for them? Fighting the government for Medicaid and Medicare payments - as small as they were, and insurance companies. The documentation required for reimbursement was unreal (that's where I came in).
It is a losing proposition for doctors to be in single practices these days. Can you possibly imagine what it would be like if every patient coming through her door was covered under government health care?
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I have worked for many, many years as a self-employed medical transcriptionist from home. About a year ago, the family doctor I worked for closed her practice. She said she was not making money and in fact, she was losing money. She is one of those caring family doctors who also volunteers her time, services, and knowledge at community clinics for free.
Anyway, she didn't have a partner in her practice but she split the overhead with another family doctor in the same office. Between these two doctors, they had these employees: A receptionist, an office manager, two medical assistants, and two nurses. And then there was me but I was not considered an employee.
The reason they had so many people working for them? Fighting the government for Medicaid and Medicare payments - as small as they were, and insurance companies. The documentation required for reimbursement was unreal (that's where I came in).
It is a losing proposition for doctors to be in single practices these days. Can you possibly imagine what it would be like if every patient coming through her door was covered under government health care?
Let's hope that we don't have to find out.
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My Doctor has at least three employees to to help with the paperwork,the schedualing and all the other duties that need done around the office plus they assist him when needed in the back where he sees the patients. They are all qualified nurses and its never a slow day there.