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Title: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Wretched Excess on February 20, 2008, 11:45:08 PM
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itsrobert  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)Wed Feb-20-08 10:46 PM
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US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
   
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 10:56 PM by itsrobert
Source: CNN

Breaking

A missile has hit an errant spy satellite about 140 miles above Earth, a U.S. official says

Read more: http://www.cnn.com /

Linky (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3190978)


the responses are pretty predictable.

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Bicoastal  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-20-08 10:47 PM
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2. Hooray. We shot...something.

we shoulda shot at least one more thing. :bird:

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LakeSamish706  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-20-08 10:51 PM
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5. So they say, but how do we know that they really hit it? n/t

DIEBOLD!  call bev harris!!  a cover up!!1111!!


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ShockediSay  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-20-08 11:34 PM
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13. Sadly, this wasn't star wars
   
Nobody would trust star wars to hit a cow in the ass w/ a snow shovel,
much less shoot something out of the sky.

No, star wars is one great big multi-million {?billion} boondoggle
for the lobbyists and their clients, that give us nothing but more
national debt.

This was a specifically targeted guided missile, aimed and shot from
a manned station/vessel, very much unlike star wars.

no, cupcake, this was indeed "star wars". :whatever:

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Paulie  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-20-08 11:50 PM
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19. Yippie
   
We can do the same thing the Chinese did LAST MONTH. :sarcasm:

how utterly uninformed.  the chinese test was a sattelite intercept.  this was a true test using missile intercept technology.


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daleo  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-21-08 12:15 AM
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22. No details
   
I wonder if that means that they just made a big mess up there, with bits of satellite being blown into higher orbit to become hazardous debris?

yep.  that's how gravity works.  things go up after a collision that decreases the kinetic energy of an orbiting object. :thatsright:
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Wretched Excess on February 21, 2008, 12:15:21 AM
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Gman  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-21-08 01:01 AM
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26. Does anyone in the civilized world actually believe that this was about   Updated at 11:58 PM
   
keeping toxic fuel from being spread when it crashed? It was more about shooting down a satellite regardless of the reason.

ok, so, what is the real reason?  we weren't doing anything better with the Navy last night? :whatever:
 
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-21-08 01:04 AM
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27. or claiming to shoot down an already falling satellite

 we didn't shoot it down!  and even if we did . . . . .  it was falling down anyway.  jeez, I wonder how hard it is to find a falling satellite these days? :sarcasm:
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Wretched Excess on February 21, 2008, 12:50:11 AM
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LeftyMom  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-21-08 01:32 AM
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30. You're right. I'm sure glad they went to all that effort to save us all from a little jet fuel.    Updated at 4:56 AM
   
Now if they could please get the much larger quantity of jet fuel contamination out of California's groundwater, and the lettuce crop, I'd totally appreciate it. Call me crazy, but I like my water, sandwiches and salads non-toxic. Especially since it's the military and the defense industry's carelessness that put it there, and since it's surely cheaper and easier to dig up toxic soil than to than shoot down a satellite, I'm sure they'll clean up their spills and messes any minute now, right?

hydrazine is rocket fuel, not jet fuel.  there's a huge difference.  and there was 1,000 pounds of the stuff in the tank, which, due to the volatile nature of the fuel, was specially reinforced, and would have almost definitely survived reentry.  in similar satellite reentries in the past, the hydrazine tank was found intact after reentry.  the difference in that those tanks were on aging satellites, and were almost empty.

Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: ReardenSteel on February 21, 2008, 12:51:26 AM
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Paulie  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-20-08 11:50 PM
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19. Yippie
   
We can do the same thing the Chinese did LAST MONTH.


Right WE. Also, not for nothing, but what the Chinese did this year, we could do in the 1980's.  :yawn:

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Gman  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-21-08 01:01 AM
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26. Does anyone in the civilized world actually believe that this was about   Updated at 11:58 PM
   
keeping toxic fuel from being spread when it crashed? It was more about shooting down a satellite regardless of the reason.

There was a reason numbnuts and if you retards could ever keep yourselves from bloviating and comming up with ridiculous CT's for long enough it might have occured to you that the reason was that the satellite was f'ed up in the first place. Now there is something for you hate-America DUmmiebots to hang your hats on.

Still. Congrats to the good guys on a successful missile strike.  :-)


Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Wretched Excess on February 21, 2008, 02:24:06 AM
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DainBramaged  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-21-08 01:57 AM
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33. CaN you burn up radiation?
   
or just make the pieces smaller? They hit it with a non-explosive warhead, and it was the size of a bus. So, did they really want to just target it or knock it off course?


Does anyone believe a single word of this misAdministration?

who said anything about radiation? :whatever: 
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Carl on February 21, 2008, 06:41:37 AM
I wonder what would happen if these people ever wandered outside into the real world?

Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: TheSarge on February 21, 2008, 06:50:31 AM
I wonder what would happen if these people ever wandered outside into the real world?



The shock of that much reality...not to mention sunlight...hitting them at once would kill them.
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Chris_ on February 21, 2008, 07:05:32 AM
I wonder what would happen if these people ever wandered outside into the real world?



The shock of that much reality...not to mention sunlight...hitting them at once would kill them.
...still looking for a downside to that....   :-)
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Odin's Hand on February 21, 2008, 07:39:37 AM
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ShockediSay  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-20-08 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #6
13. Sadly, this wasn't star wars
   
Nobody would trust star wars to hit a cow in the ass w/ a snow shovel,
much less shoot something out of the sky.

No, star wars is one great big multi-million {?billion} boondoggle
for the lobbyists and their clients, that give us nothing but more
national debt.

This was a specifically targeted guided missile, aimed and shot from
a manned station/vessel, very much unlike star wars.

Um no, the Aegis System, coupled with the Standard Missile-3, is a direct descendant of the Lightweight Exo-atmospheric Projectile (LEAP) project that was instituted under the Strategic Defense Initiative.
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: VelvetElvis on February 21, 2008, 07:49:33 AM
I wonder what would happen if these people ever wandered outside into the real world?



The shock of that much reality...not to mention sunlight...hitting them at once would kill them.
...still looking for a downside to that....   :-)

Hmmmm...thinking about setting an extra large bag of Cheetos on the sidewalk outside the local Moonbat's house, just to test the theory... :uhsure:
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: jukin on February 21, 2008, 09:09:42 AM
The DUmp, the uninformed leading the ignorant.
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Lord Undies on February 21, 2008, 09:57:55 AM
In DUmmyland, is there EVER anything positive?  Would they perish if they said something boastful about the USA?
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Bondai on February 21, 2008, 10:44:42 AM
In DUmmyland, is there EVER anything positive?  Would they perish if they said something boastful about the USA?

Anyone who dared spew some positive remarks would be thrown off the island... :mental:
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Attero Dominatus on February 21, 2008, 12:08:21 PM
In DUmmyland, is there EVER anything positive?  Would they perish if they said something boastful about the USA?

All you will find there is hatrid.
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Attero Dominatus on February 21, 2008, 12:09:55 PM
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winter999  (308 posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Thu Feb-21-08 01:05 PM
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61. How do you know there was even a satellite or a shoot-down.
   
The whole thing was made-up just like the moon landings.

You said it yourself, our government lies. Who doesn't?
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 :tinfoil2:

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Tracer  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Thu Feb-21-08 08:03 AM
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38. Last night, there was a scientist from MIT on the NewsHour...
   
...who pretty much dismissed the possibility of the Hydrazine tank surviving re-entry into the atmosphere.

Frankly, I believe him -- rather than the administration. (Surprise? Not.)
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 :bird:
DUmbass, the hydrazine tank is made of titanium which would survive reentry.

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RF450  (844 posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Thu Feb-21-08 01:50 AM
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31. Agreed.
   
Had they let it fall freely, who knows where it could'v landed. For one thing, rocket fuel is a huge hazard if near people in open air. Whats left of it after most of it burns up could possibly damage someones property, or worse, take out a few people. Then the government or Navy would get the blaim from counless numbers of people for not shooting it down sooner.

I feel that many members here need to lay off and actually give the Navy some credit.
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Rationality at the DUmp? surprising.
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: dandi on February 21, 2008, 04:52:53 PM
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ShockediSay  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-20-08 11:34 PM
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13. Sadly, this wasn't star wars
   
Nobody would trust star wars to hit a cow in the ass w/ a snow shovel,
much less shoot something out of the sky.

Are these people descendants of the same Luddites that said we'd never put a man on the moon? They have surprisingly little faith in technology given the way it's grown by leaps and bounds over the past century. Why does a group that *claims* openmindedness and limitless intelligence respond with such a Flat-Earther mentality when it comes to knocking a ballistic missile out of the sky?

Oh that's right, it's America doing it, and everyone knows what chronic screwups we are when it comes to pushing the envelopes of science. :whatever:
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 21, 2008, 04:54:21 PM
dandi, yes.

RF450, what do you want on your Tombstone? ::)
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 21, 2008, 07:17:57 PM
It seems like almost any thread from DU could be summarized thusly:

United States Bad!  Communist Countries Good!
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Lauri on February 21, 2008, 09:53:38 PM
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Gman  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-21-08 01:01 AM
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26. Does anyone in the civilized world actually believe that this was about   Updated at 11:58 PM
   
keeping toxic fuel from being spread when it crashed? It was more about shooting down a satellite regardless of the reason.

ok, so, what is the real reason?  we weren't doing anything better with the Navy last night? :whatever:
 
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-21-08 01:04 AM
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27. or claiming to shoot down an already falling satellite

 we didn't shoot it down!  and even if we did . . . . .  it was falling down anyway.  jeez, I wonder how hard it is to find a falling satellite these days? :sarcasm:



WE.. you gotta listen to Coast to Coast this week.. (plus, youre already up at those hours  :-)) and hear all these clowns talking about what 'really' happened with that satellite.

mmmhmm...

you just wont believe it..  :popcorn:
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Chris_ on February 21, 2008, 09:55:23 PM
WE.. you gotta listen to Coast to Coast this week.. (plus, youre already up at those hours  :-)) and hear all these clowns talking about what 'really' happened with that satellite.

mmmhmm...

you just wont believe it..  :popcorn:

The local station finally went back to playing the last two hours of the previous night's program before the live show comes on the air.  Yes!

Which reminds me.  It's bedtime.   :yawn:
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Wretched Excess on February 21, 2008, 10:02:00 PM
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Gman  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-21-08 01:01 AM
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26. Does anyone in the civilized world actually believe that this was about   Updated at 11:58 PM
   
keeping toxic fuel from being spread when it crashed? It was more about shooting down a satellite regardless of the reason.

ok, so, what is the real reason?  we weren't doing anything better with the Navy last night? :whatever:
 
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-21-08 01:04 AM
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27. or claiming to shoot down an already falling satellite

 we didn't shoot it down!  and even if we did . . . . .  it was falling down anyway.  jeez, I wonder how hard it is to find a falling satellite these days? :sarcasm:



WE.. you gotta listen to Coast to Coast this week.. (plus, youre already up at those hours  :-)) and hear all these clowns talking about what 'really' happened with that satellite.

mmmhmm...

you just wont believe it..  :popcorn:

I meant to catch that last time you mentioned it (I believe the subject then was pictures of ghosts), but I missed it.  I will try again.  You definitely have me interested in it now.
Title: Re: US Navy shoots down satellite over Pacific
Post by: Airwolf on February 22, 2008, 06:19:26 PM
I wonder what would happen if these people ever wandered outside into the real world?



With any luck they would be hit by a falling satellite the size of a school bus that a Democratic Congress removed the funding for shooting it down in the first place.