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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on June 12, 2009, 04:09:49 PM
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Mythsaje 1000+ posts)
Fri Jun-12-09 03:47 PM
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You know, it's funny. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5835759)
I spent several hours yesterday talking with non-DU liberals. My father, for one. And my niece, who just graduated high school back in a small town in Wisconsin. We flew her out to visit the family as a graduation gift. And I also got a call from an old friend and protege I haven't seen in years.
People say that we here at DU are "living in a bubble" and we don't reflect the attitudes and beliefs of most "liberals" across America. Well, I beg to differ. These three people--three very different people with different backgrounds and experiences and sources of information, see many of the same things I do coming down the line.
My father has always been skeptical about credit. He owns his house outright now, and has very few monthly bills. As far as I know he's never had a credit card. He gets his news primarily from the newspaper and occasionally I have to fill him in on details about something he's heard about, but he gets it.
My niece is pro gay-marriage, suspicious of the banks and insurance companies, and wants to see a more equitable distribution of resources to eliminate or at least diminish the effects of poverty. This is all aside from being involved with a ROTC pro-military fellow for the past two years. They don't talk politics, she says, because he won't listen to her. As I told her, once he actually GOES to Iraq and Afghanistan, he'll have a different point of view. It might take more than one tour to awaken him, but he won't be the same person either way.
She's familiar with the Tillman case and considers him a true American hero.
The third conversation was with this old friend of mine--a protege, as I said. It's a long story, but I helped a out-of-control teenager get back his life. He's now got a B.S. in Psychology (or, as he calls it, "a B.S. in B.S.) from Bastyr university. One of the most persuasive, articulate people I've ever met. He'd have made a good lawyer, or a politician. Thankfully he didn't go that route.
He started talking about MSNBC and K.O. and Rachel, and Ed. Well, he mentioned MSNBC and I mentioned the names. He laughed. Then we got down to talking about the political situation--single payer health care, the bank bailouts, Chrysler, etc... Despite the fact that I'm a DUer and we haven't talked for years, we're on the same page. He's as disgusted with Congress at this point as I am.
Other people ARE talking about what we're talking about. DU isn't as much a bubble as some would like us to believe.
Wrong, you live in a complete bubble. The only sites you trust are MSNBC, RawStory, Firedoglake, Truthout, etc.
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DU is an echo chamber ))))(((()))))
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Big deal,you talked to other libs just as demented as you who don`t happen to wander the sewage island of politics.
How does that prove anything except you live in a bubble.
You know there is a reason your little site isn`t allowed to even mention conservative websites and why not have a forum like this one there?
You can`t and won`t let rational thought invade your make believe little world is why.
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Mythsaje
People say that we here at DU are "living in a bubble" and we don't reflect the attitudes and beliefs of most "liberals" across America.
Huh!?! I, for one, have never said that Skin's island doesn't "reflect the attitudes and beliefs of most liberals across America."
Let me make this perfectly clear: You primitives live in a bubble and you all reflect the attitudes and beliefs of most liberals, there's no doubt about that. You're just not Americans. You may be citizens, but that's not the same as being Americans.
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Big deal. Socialized medicine, wealth redistribution, a smaller military and lots of business regulations have been standard fare for liberals for a long time. They are things on which reasonable people can agree to disagree.
On the other hand a desire for nationalization of large swaths of private industry, censorship of criticism and opposing points of view, loony conspiracy theories, abortion on demand, utter contempt for societal mores, support for our enemies, seething hatred and slander for anyone who disagrees, etc., in other words the basic DU Manifesto, are what places DU and other moonbat groups of their stripe in a bubble.
They have been gaining ground though, thanks to their willing accomplices in the MSM. I'm hoping a lot of the crap Obama has done and is proposing will scare people back to their senses. If it doesn't, God help us.
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I am disappointed. I thought that Miss Sage claimed to be a writer. I expected a much better story from her.
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Oh, bullshit. If Saje Williams (failed writer) really believes that, then why does he post a weekly hand-wringer about how dire the Dem's situation is? **** off and die, hippie.
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I am disappointed. I thought that Miss Sage claimed to be a writer. I expected a much better story from her. [him]
Yeah, it is disappointing.
The legendary herb primitive took a break from Skins's island around the end of the Democrat primaries through the elections of last year. I was hoping he would come back with a new perspective about writing, because he does have talent.
Alas, when he went back to Skins's island, it was obvious he had let such talents go utterly to pot. His hopes and aspirations had declined precipitously to where, nowadays, he just wants to be the male version of that NanceGreggs idiot on Skins's island.
One gets the impression that in real life, his "influence" among real people, his associations, his friends and co-workers, has deteriorated (for any one of a great number of possible reasons), and so now he's turning to the primitives, desperately trying to become "someone" among them.
Cyberpeople, or in this case cyberprimitives, are no substitute for the real thing.
It's all very sad.