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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on June 08, 2009, 10:08:45 PM
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While considering the selfish seditious nature of the primitives on Skins' island, I always wonder about something.
Suppose the terrorists were to develop some sort of bomb or plague or poison that affected only the primitives.
It's not as outlandish as it might seem; remember, to the enemies of freedom and liberty, the primitives are only useful idiots, good only up until such terrorists are about ready to strike America, in whichever way they devise to strike America.
The primitives, by their sheer bulk and lethary and bovinity, are just so much dead weight, and one assumes terrorists would just as soon have the primitives out of the way, before striking decent and civilized people.
And so suppose, as a preliminary, the terrorists develop some sort of bomb or plague or poison that liquidates only the primitives.
And you knew about it in advance.
Would you tell?
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I would have to say yes, but I would probably regret it later. As much as they try to convince us otherwise, they are fellow citizens and human beings.
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Of course.
But, because they are DUmpmonliez, they wouldn't believe it, even after it happened, and would go to their ditch claiming it was teh evil bushco that did it.
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Of course.
But, because they are DUmpmonliez, they wouldn't believe it, even after it happened, and would go to their ditch claiming it was teh evil bushco that did it.
As they were choking on the fumes of the poisoned bongwater, they'd form a Troofer squad to put together conclusive cinder block and chicken wire proof that Bushco MIHOP.
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I would have to say yes, but I would probably regret it later. As much as they try to convince us otherwise, they are fellow citizens and human beings.
At least they started out as fellow citizens and human beings. I said "yes, with qualms."
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I would - its the right thing to do. For the most part, the primitives are harmless cage rattlers. As for the drain on resources they have become - its because decent folks keep allowing them to do so. We change the way we vote, and work to shut off the government spigot, and they will have to either grow up or become extinct.
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My thoughts about the matter have changed considerably the past eight years.
I used to be the "we're all in this together" sort of person.
I used to be the "an American is an American" sort of person.
However, not being a statesman or a soldier, both of whom are obligated to maintain such an attitude, I no longer feel this way.
In time of crisis, not being a statesman or a soldier, I would have the luxury of picking-and-choosing whom to defend, whom to protect.
And I would be most interested in defending and protecting those those who wish to uphold the principles, the ideals, the traditions, that made, or make, America great.
The primitives would be a deadweight, a hindrance; their own fates, which inevitably must be ignominious, are no matter of concern for me any more.
When I was in college, I used to haunt the section of the main library where master's and Ph.D. theses were kept; the University of Nebraska had a requirement that two hardbound copies of every thesis written there, since the beginning (1869), had to be donated to the institution, for study by future scholars.
Of course, no one paid attention to that section; nearly all the time, I was the only person in that part of the library.
Among the collection were various theses, master's and Ph.D.s, written during the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, about the domestic situation in France the spring of 1940; both history and sociology, just before the occupation of Denmark and Norway, or the invasion of the Netherlands and Belgium.
It appears that on April 9, 1940 or May 10, 1940 (either one is applicable), about 25% of all Frenchmen took the war seriously; 15% had no opinion, and 60% were against the war, and thought the boys should come home to plough the fields for spring planting.
Yes, they had polls in those ancient days.
This created all sorts of convulsions and divisions within Frenchmen.
What happened after the invasion and occupation of France is too variegated to describe here, although anyone with a fundamental idea of history has at least the general idea.
But generally, usually, most of the time, those Frenchmen who had been the domestic Fifth Column (as opposed with the "German tourists") met with bad ends.
Those Frenchmen who had not been seditious, but at the same time not taken the war seriously, failed to flourish and prosper, and in fact constituted the bulk of those sent to "labor" in Germany, or endured other material deprivations.
Those Frenchmen who had taken the threat seriously, either paid the ultimate sacrifice in the Resistance and the Free French, dying heroes to both God and man, or if they survived, flourished and prospered in post-1945 France.
One characteristic of the third category was how sharply and quickly they discarded the other 75%, the deadweights, being utterly indifferent as to their fates, France being more important to them than these Frenchmen.
I love America, what America stands for, what America is supposed to be, with a passion and an ardor, but there are some Americans one can't stand, and so one no longer gives a **** about them.
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I'd regret it but, well, nah.. I wouldn't tell... who'd believe me anyway?
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Hell to the naw.
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yes! I would. Human life is human life.....besides who would i have left to torment with all of them gone? :-)
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Their fate could come down to a question of whether Lincoln or his memorial comes up, if left to me.
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Yes, and we should plaster STD posters in gay bath houses to warn them too.
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yes! I would. Human life is human life.....besides who would i have left to torment with all of them gone? :-)
Well, that's where it conflicts with my pro-life values.
However, the greatest gift God gives us as individuals is the instinct for survival.
I myself wouldn't do anything to harm a primitive, but on the other hand, I wouldn't do anything to save a primitive either.
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Tough one, Frank, but I would have to give heavy consideration to simply invoking their favorite theologian, Darwin.
And this: Hell to the naw.
made me laugh.
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No, because they will not believe me. :lmao:
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I'd hate myself in the morning, but yeah, I'd tell 'em.
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I would have say Yes. I swore an oath to protect the country and the people from all enemies. Without reservation and hestation. I may not like them but they are Americans.
Now if they want to start a war to take over the US and remake it into the USSR Ver. 2.0 then we have a problem. Ok more then a problem ,it'll be time to kick their ever lovin asses.
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Tell who? The DUmmies? Not just NO...HELL NO!!!
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I would have say Yes. I swore an oath to protect the country and the people from all enemies. Without reservation and hestation. I may not like them but they are Americans.
Well, anyone who wants to enslave me, be it financially or physically, and who wants to completely destroy everything this country was created to be, IMO, is a ****ing enemy.
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I would have to tell. I used to be a disgusting piece of shit liberal. When I grew my grown up brains in I got out. I would hate for the next Ronald Reagan to get gassed and I could have prevented it.
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While considering the selfish seditious nature of the primitives on Skins' island, I always wonder about something.
Suppose the terrorists were to develop some sort of bomb or plague or poison that affected only the primitives.
It's not as outlandish as it might seem; remember, to the enemies of freedom and liberty, the primitives are only useful idiots, good only up until such terrorists are about ready to strike America, in whichever way they devise to strike America.
The primitives, by their sheer bulk and lethary and bovinity, are just so much dead weight, and one assumes terrorists would just as soon have the primitives out of the way, before striking decent and civilized people.
And so suppose, as a preliminary, the terrorists develop some sort of bomb or plague or poison that liquidates only the primitives.
And you knew about it in advance.
Would you tell?
(Edited for structure - seems my iPhone is a bitch at quotes today):
I would have to first weigh the number of the unborn that would be saved before I could honestly answer that question. I'm leaning towards "what's good for the goose is good for the gander"!
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I would have to tell. I used to be a disgusting piece of shit liberal. When I grew my grown up brains in I got out. I would hate for the next Ronald Reagan to get gassed and I could have prevented it.
That's a really good point mama! :cheersmate:
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Yes I would tell.
I would miss them also. :-)
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I would have to tell. I used to be a disgusting piece of shit liberal. When I grew my grown up brains in I got out. I would hate for the next Ronald Reagan to get gassed and I could have prevented it.
This is where I am at too, even though now I would say I was more politically confused, my first election, 1984, I voted for Reagan but mostly because I was going into the Army the day after the election. But then I kind of drifted into the insane territory for a while even though the only reason I voted for Dukakis in 1988 was because I knew Bush was going to win and in '92 I voted libertarian it wasn't until a year or two into Bubba's missteps and lies that I began to realize I was really a conservative.
Really it should have been obvious since my main issue in those confused days was the amount of taxes confiscated from my paychecks.
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Yeah. I would. As much as I dislike em, it's not for me to judge.
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I would tell. Human life is human life. Immediate defense of children, family, self or home is the only excuse to take a life outside of war.
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You could tell them and they wouldn't believe it anyway. Remember, these are the types who believe if we're just nice to those who hate America (almost as much as the primitives do) they wouldn't attack us ever again. By Dear Leader simply being in office, that means that right now terrorists around the world realize that we've turned from our evil ways and they have called a moratorium on any attacks for at least the next 4 years. In fact, any money we're spending on protecting ourselves is being wasted because they aren't even going to try anything.
I'm torn between telling them realizing they wouldn't believe it, and not telling them because it's a waste of time. But I'll go with 'No' simply because the time and effort of telling them would be wasted, so why even bother.
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You could tell them and they wouldn't believe it anyway. Remember, these are the types who believe if we're just nice to those who hate America (almost as much as the primitives do) they wouldn't attack us ever again. By Dear Leader simply being in office, that means that right now terrorists around the world realize that we've turned from our evil ways and they have called a moratorium on any attacks for at least the next 4 years. In fact, any money we're spending on protecting ourselves is being wasted because they aren't even going to try anything.
I'm torn between telling them realizing they wouldn't believe it, and not telling them because it's a waste of time. But I'll go with 'No' simply because the time and effort of telling them would be wasted, so why even bother.
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simply for the opportunity to say, "I told you so"! Na Na Na Na Na Nuh! and watch their heads explode!
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simply for the opportunity to say, "I told you so"! Na Na Na Na Na Nuh! and watch their heads explode!
According to frank's scenerio, they'll be dead. I guess I could do "neener, neener, neener" to their graves.
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Well, that's where it conflicts with my pro-life values.
However, the greatest gift God gives us as individuals is the instinct for survival.
I myself wouldn't do anything to harm a primitive, but on the other hand, I wouldn't do anything to save a primitive either.
Respectfully, I disagree.
See, this is a fundamental core principle of mine. I disagree that God's greatest gift to us is our instinct for survival. That idea of the instinct for self-preservation flies in the face of whom we consider our greatest heroes.
We think it's much more heroic--and for good reason--for someone to die in a fire saving someone else than someone saving himself. The strongest, most deserving, and best able are the ones who, in times of crisis, give their lives so that we lesser ones may live. It is evident in almost every book about war or crisis I have ever read. The bravest ones, the strongest, are the ones who go first. See Night by Elie Weisel and Band of Brothers by Stephen Ambrose for examples.
I think that God's greatest gift to us is the ability to save others. Natural law--the survival of the fittest--breaks down when it comes to humanity because we have souls.
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According to frank's scenerio, they'll be dead. I guess I could do "neener, neener, neener" to their graves.
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Myself, I would dance on their graves and piss on their headstones. I have an extremely long memory and I will never forget their continual attacks on this nation, The Bill of Rights, and the unborn. I say hang t
he bastards!
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Respectfully, I disagree.
See, this is a fundamental core principle of mine. I disagree that God's greatest gift to us is our instinct for survival. That idea of the instinct for self-preservation flies in the face of whom we consider our greatest heroes.
We think it's much more heroic--and for good reason--for someone to die in a fire saving someone else than someone saving himself. The strongest, most deserving, and best able are the ones who, in times of crisis, give their lives so that we lesser ones may live. It is evident in almost every book about war or crisis I have ever read. The bravest ones, the strongest, are the ones who go first. See Night by Elie Weisel and Band of Brothers by Stephen Ambrose for examples.
I think that God's greatest gift to us is the ability to save others. Natural law--the survival of the fittest--breaks down when it comes to humanity because we have souls.
Unfortunately you're right. We would have pity on the worthless little turds and save them. Which would allow them to screw us once again. It's a vicious circle I'm afraid.
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Unfortunately you're right. We would have pity on the worthless little turds and save them. Which would allow them to screw us once again. It's a vicious circle I'm afraid.
Yes, that is one of Alinsky's rules... use the system against them. One of the reasons why I voted yes (with reservations). They would use whatever leeway or leniency they have to push their twisted little agenda.
Nobody said the terrorists wouldn't come back. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, it's your ass. :-)