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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on June 03, 2009, 12:34:39 PM
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Taverner (1000+ posts)
Wed Jun-03-09 01:25 PM
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How to render a Republic speechless... (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5777068)
Remind him or her about Bush's plan to put Social Security into the markets.
Ask them if that still sounds like a good idea....
:bs:
Still a great idea. I'd much rather control where my retirement money is rather than hope that the government will give it back to me upon retirement.
Epic fail, Taverner. :loser:
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Well Asshole...at least I'd have sometin for my retirement..SS is broke the tail end of the boomers are SOL..
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Exactly. maroon! I'd much rather take my chances with the market than leave it to your buddies in DC!
Next question, DUmbass? What else ya got?
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Then the republican will give you an edjumactaion on what GWB actually proposed.
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Last I heard the sectors of the market that weren't government run were doing rather well.
Fannie and Freddie started this mess and every corp the Obama touches goes tits-up. If the gov't would stop killing the economy we'd be doing rather well.
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This DUmmie apparently has no faith in Dear Leaders economic plan, other wise they'd know that at some point the market will recover. At least it would if 0bama would stop trying to ruin the economy.
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Exactly, Thudley. And didn't messiah say that "profit and earnings ratios are such that if you have a long term horizon, there might be good investing opportunities in the market."
Well, I guess he didn't leave us Republics [sic] speechless. :-)
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This DUmmie apparently has no faith in Dear Leaders economic plan, other wise they'd know that at some point the market will recover. At least it would if 0bama would stop trying to ruin the economy.
It's all about short-term gratification for the DUmmies. On every issue, really. On this one, they've obviously never looked at a graph showing the Dow Jones average over time. Nothing but upward over the long-term.
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Well Asshole...at least I'd have sometin for my retirement..SS is broke the tail end of the boomers are SOL..
Oh not only that...think of the gen xers like myself right behind you. We are in that in between age, but definitely not young enough to have the chance gen y and younger have to work around the reality of SS and probably Medicare. We are in the same boat as you younger boomers which means our two little generations will feel the brunt of the monumental **** ups of the last 20 years or so. :thatsright:
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:bs:
Still a great idea. I'd much rather control where my retirement money is rather than hope that the government will give it back to me upon retirement.
Epic fail, Taverner. :loser:
Yeah I would like to have that money i've paid in since I started working....if only to put it in a savings account at the very least! :banghead:
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Well, right now, it would be a frickin' BRILLIANT idea. The markets don't appear to be going seriously lower, though it looks like they won't be starting a steady upward trend for awhile, but when the upward movement starts the inflation price that the One has bought into with his economic policies will make the Government securities relatively worthless, with appreciating stocks being the only way to stay ahead of the declining value of money.
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Taverner (1000+ posts)
Wed Jun-03-09 01:25 PM
Original message
How to render a Republic speechless...
Remind him or her about Bush's plan to put Social Security into the markets.
Ask them if that still sounds like a good idea....
Yes it does, shit-for-brains and the fact that you think we woulden't.........well, it shows how well you don't know anything.
Lurkers.........................damn you people are stupid, stupid, stupid.....no wonder Big 0 is ****ing everything up.
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My 401K took a beating but it's fighting its way back.
Your Account Summary
As of 06-02-2009
Current Balance $XXX,XXX.01
Vested Balance $XXX,XXX.01
Your Year-to-Date Rate of Return 41.5%
I'll make a deal with you Democrats and DUmmies, I've paid into SS since 1978.
You can keep that money. But allow me for the remaining 19 years I work to invest
the SS tax you take out of my paycheck as I see fit. What do you think ?
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I was just actually thinking about increasing the percentage of my pay that goes into my 401K. Obama will probably drive the prices down real low. It's kinda looking like he's going to get the boot in 2012, and hopefully a Repiblican that knows something about free enterprise gets in and the market will start to rise. I've got 12-15 years 'til retirement. I figure should work out pretty good.
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:bs:
Still a great idea. I'd much rather control where my retirement money is rather than hope that the government will give it back to me upon retirement.
Epic fail, Taverner. :loser:
Hmmmm...rate of return on the DJIA since I entered the workforce in 1981...just under 9 percent. Return on SS funds over same period...just under 1 percent.
Yep--DUmmie math epic fail.
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Ask them if that still sounds like a good idea....
Hell. Yes.
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You people are doing it wrong!
The OP said you were supposed to be speechless.
Get with the program people!
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You people are doing it wrong!
The OP said you were supposed to be speechless.
Get with the program people!
I'm rendered speechless by their breathtaking stupidity but I don't think that's what they meant :-)
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I'm rendered speechless by their breathtaking stupidity but I don't think that's what they meant :-)
Yeah, I don't know of anyone that can talk when they're laughing their asses off at the stupidity that infests the DUmp.
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The only way some liberal DUmbass could render me speechless is if he had his skidmarked underwear on his head while he was talking.
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My retirement IS in the market. I have very little hope of Social Security existing when I retire...and even less of my work's pension plan surviving until then. ::)
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Funny, cause during the market "crash" my TSP (401k equivalent) made money. I think I'd rather be putting my SS money into something like that, then the black hole that i'm currently putting it into.
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You people are doing it wrong!
The OP said you were supposed to be speechless.
Get with the program people!
He didn't say for how long. In my case, it was approximately 2-3 seconds, which was the amount of time it took to read that tripe.
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Who needs retirement? After the liberals sink the economy and the country goes to anarchy then I figure can just beat and rob the asshats that voted in Eurkle and caused this mess to develop .
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:bs:
Still a great idea. I'd much rather control where my retirement money is rather than hope that the government will give it back to me upon retirement.
Epic fail, Taverner. :loser:
Gosh, look at all those unions that negotiated 401k plans with employers matching funds. :fuelfire:
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I agree with you all. All they have to do is talk and that's enough to render any one smarter then a 5TH grader speechless.
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DUmmies, I'm 24 years old. By the time I reach retirement age, there's zero possibility that the money I put into Social Security will still be there. It isn't an investment or a savings program, it's a pyramid scheme - and by the time I'm at the top of the pyramid, the base won't be large enough to support the tip.
So what you're asking me is if I'd rather have had between forty and sixty years for my hypothetical investments to rebound, or the current situation where I won't be getting dick. The answer should be obvious.
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First off don't worry about retirement. With the draconian rationing of healthcare your golden years are going to be far fewer. When you quit paying taxes you are not needed by the government, you will not get any of those juicy entitlements that have been sucked out at 15.3% for your working life. When I see a senior with an obama sticker, all I can think of this person just voted to end their life earlier...much earlier.
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If I had that 15% invested in a 401K since I started working in 1978 I would be able to retire today without any financial worries.
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DUmmies, I'm 24 years old. By the time I reach retirement age, there's zero possibility that the money I put into Social Security will still be there. It isn't an investment or a savings program, it's a pyramid scheme - and by the time I'm at the top of the pyramid, the base won't be large enough to support the tip.
So what you're asking me is if I'd rather have had between forty and sixty years for my hypothetical investments to rebound, or the current situation where I won't be getting dick. The answer should be obvious.
Yeah, but they'd have to put down their bongs, sober up and actually THINK...never gonna happen.