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Title: Supreme Court Rejects Domestic Spying Appeal
Post by: Wretched Excess on February 19, 2008, 10:22:58 AM
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Court Rejects Domestic Spying Appeal

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court rejected a challenge Tuesday to the Bush administration's domestic spying program.

The justices' decision, issued without comment, is the latest setback to legal efforts to force disclosure of details of the warrantless wiretapping that began after the Sept. 11 attacks.

The American Civil Liberties Union wanted the court to allow a lawsuit by the group and individuals over the wiretapping program. The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals dismissed the suit, saying the plaintiffs could not prove their communications had been monitored.

The government has refused to turn over information about the closely guarded program that could reveal who has been under surveillance.

ACLU legal director Steven R. Shapiro has said his group is in a "Catch-22" because the government says the identities of people whose communications have been intercepted is secret. But only people who know they have been wiretapped can sue over the program, Shapiro has said.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals last year ruled against an Islamic charity that also challenged program, concluding that a key piece of evidence is protected as a state secret.

In that case, the Oregon-based U.S. arm of the Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation alleged the National Security Agency illegally listened to its calls. The charity had wanted to introduce as evidence a top-secret call log it received mistakenly from the Treasury Department.

A separate lawsuit against telecommunications companies that have cooperated with the government is pending in the San Francisco-based appeals court. A U.S. district court also is examining whether the warrantless surveillance of people in the United States violates the law that regulates the wiretapping of suspected terrorists and requires the approval of a secret court.

Story (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jyusZ2V1ACKGV2iJuGVmuPUERi_QD8UTFHJG0)




now if the house would only do it's job.
Title: Court rejects ACLU challenge to wiretaps
Post by: DixieBelle on February 19, 2008, 10:26:33 AM
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WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court rejected a challenge Tuesday to the Bush administration's domestic spying program.
The justices' decision, issued without comment, is the latest setback to legal efforts to force disclosure of details of the warrantless wiretapping that began after the Sept. 11 attacks.

The American Civil Liberties Union wanted the court to allow a lawsuit by the group and individuals over the wiretapping program. The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals dismissed the suit, saying the plaintiffs could not prove their communications had been monitored.

The government has refused to turn over information about the closely guarded program that could reveal who has been under surveillance.

ACLU legal director Steven R. Shapiro has said his group is in a "Catch-22" because the government says the identities of people whose communications have been intercepted is secret. But only people who know they have been wiretapped can sue over the program, Shapiro has said.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals last year ruled against an Islamic charity that also challenged program, concluding that a key piece of evidence is protected as a state secret.

In that case, the Oregon-based U.S. arm of the Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation alleged the National Security Agency illegally listened to its calls. The charity had wanted to introduce as evidence a top- secret call log it received mistakenly from the Treasury Department.

A separate lawsuit against telecommunications companies that have cooperated with the government is pending in the San Francisco-based appeals court. A U.S. district court also is examining whether the warrantless surveillance of people in the United States violates the law that regulates the wiretapping of suspected terrorists and requires the approval of a secret court.

The case is ACLU v. NSA, 07-468.
 

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UTFISG1&show_article=1&catnum=0
 
Title: Re: Supreme Court Rejects Domestic Spying Appeal
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 19, 2008, 10:31:20 AM
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In that case, the Oregon-based U.S. arm of the Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation alleged the National Security Agency illegally listened to its calls. The charity had wanted to introduce as evidence a top-secret call log it received mistakenly from the Treasury Department.

Hmmm.... an "Islamic charity" eh? Oh, with such charitable actions in Kenya (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=9689_Crackdown_on_Al_Qaeda-Linked_Charity&only) and Bali (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/03/04/1046540187386.html)... I'm sure they will be given the respect they deserve in the case.  :sarcasm:
Title: Re: Court rejects ACLU challenge to wiretaps
Post by: Wretched Excess on February 19, 2008, 10:32:59 AM
dup (http://www.conservativescave.com/index.php?topic=2931.0), but I think I like this thread better in BN where you put it.  I will merge them into this one.

Title: Re: Supreme Court Rejects Domestic Spying Appeal
Post by: DixieBelle on February 19, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
thx! i didn't see yours....
Title: Re: Supreme Court Rejects Domestic Spying Appeal
Post by: Airwolf on February 19, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Hahahahaha. All Your lawsuits belong to us.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Rejects Domestic Spying Appeal
Post by: formerlurker on February 19, 2008, 12:39:31 PM
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ACLU legal director Steven R. Shapiro has said his group is in a "Catch-22" because the government says the identities of people whose communications have been intercepted is secret. But only people who know they have been wiretapped can sue over the program, Shapiro has said.

Translation:  We have absolutely no idea what we are so angry about....


Title: Re: Supreme Court Rejects Domestic Spying Appeal
Post by: NHSparky on February 19, 2008, 12:58:43 PM
Damn, and here I was hoping the NSA could tap in and find out Aunt Mary's secret Red Velvet Cake recipe....
Title: Re: Supreme Court Rejects Domestic Spying Appeal
Post by: Splashdown on February 19, 2008, 01:21:52 PM
Don't stay home this November, Republicans, we need the courts!
Title: Re: Supreme Court Rejects Domestic Spying Appeal
Post by: Chris_ on February 19, 2008, 02:29:22 PM
Damn, and here I was hoping the NSA could tap in and find out Aunt Mary's secret Red Velvet Cake recipe....
The VRWC can help you with that...for a small donation, of course.   :-)
Title: Re: Supreme Court Rejects Domestic Spying Appeal
Post by: Tess Anderson on February 19, 2008, 04:05:03 PM
Don't stay home this November, Republicans, we need the courts!

That's true, Splash, and not just to replace those two moonbats on SCOTUS that are waiting to retire - there's all those appellate and lower courts that are significant, too.
Title: Re: Supreme Court Rejects Domestic Spying Appeal
Post by: Lacarnut on February 19, 2008, 07:39:06 PM
Don't stay home this November, Republicans, we need the courts!

That's true, Splash, and not just to replace those two moonbats on SCOTUS that are waiting to retire - there's all those appellate and lower courts that are significant, too.


I don't like him but I will vote for him because Hillary or Obama would ruin this country.