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Title: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: ScubaGuy on May 28, 2009, 11:44:10 AM

How about Venezuela or Cuba?
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Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
   

Right-wingers/conservatives/Republicans are fond of saying the above.

Trouble is, most countries I (and many progressives) would want to go to are very particular about whom they take. For instance, Canada, the UK, Scandinavian countries. I'm talking about moving to another country with the idea of eventually becoming a citizen of that country.

If you're a young, skilled worker and can get Canadian citizenship, good for you. But for many of us, that's not an option, due to age, not having a skill the other country needs, etc., that's not an option.

So your socialist utopias don't want unemployable lazy bums who pay noting into the system but want all the benefits? Amazing that they only want citizens that can contribute something and not just suck off the government teat.



Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: Chris_ on May 28, 2009, 11:50:15 AM
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Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Use eeeeviiiiil conserva-thugs don't really care "where".  Just go.   :fuelfire:








 :-)
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: Vagabond on May 28, 2009, 11:52:20 AM
Use eeeeviiiiil conserva-thugs don't really care "where".  Just go.   :fuelfire:








 :-)

Straight to hell most likely.
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: Chris_ on May 28, 2009, 11:54:27 AM
Straight back to hell most likely.
Fixt.
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: crockspot on May 28, 2009, 11:58:24 AM
What is funny about Canada is that it is truly hard to emigrate there legally from the first world, even from the US. Yet if you arrive on a flight from some third world shit hole with no papers at all and claim asylum, they will give you an immigration hearing date about two years out. In the meantime, you get a social insurance card that allows you to work (or collect welfare) and get free health care.
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: MarshallLaw on May 28, 2009, 12:08:35 PM
Us eeeeviiiiil conserva-thugs don't really care "where".  Just go.   :fuelfire:



Really.

As far as I'm concerned, they can go east or west. Say, about 50 miles off the coast.




Or however far it would take so they don't wash up on the beaches.
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on May 28, 2009, 12:35:15 PM
Get in your new Government Motors hybrid soda can and drive to Venezuela.

We of the RKBA mentality insist (and hurry, half of us think they hear voices from on high).
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 28, 2009, 01:05:11 PM
I hear SoylentCo is looking for bodies.  Try them, DUmpsters.

 :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 28, 2009, 01:12:26 PM
Get in your new Government Motors hybrid soda can and drive to Venezuela.

We of the RKBA mentality insist (and hurry, half of us think they hear voices from on high).

Did they mention Cuba? Venezuela? North Korea? Vietnam?
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: BannedFromDU on May 28, 2009, 01:34:07 PM
Did they mention Cuba? Venezuela? North Korea? Vietnam?


     I said this in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and now in 2009: when DUmmies speak of leaving the US, they do not want to be hassled by such details as learning to speak a new language, or to live in a new culture. They do not wish to be surrounded by brown people, and they have little interest in obtaining job skills desired by other countries. The demands of a permanent DU emigree are stated succinctly:

     1. It must be an English-speaking country;
     2. Job skills are not required;
     3. There must be a comprehensive social safety net;
     4. Healthcare must be free;
     5. Goods and services, including housing, must be subsidized and/or altogether free;
     6. At a minimum, marijuana must be legal;
     7. The weather must agree with their rococo health concerns;
     8. As few brown people as necessary.


     This, despite their derision for all things American, and their reflexive and unconditional support for any culture that runs counter to American culture. In essence, they want to move to the America they want, but which never existed and never will.

   
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 28, 2009, 02:13:41 PM
They want Utopia.

good luck with that
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: BannedFromDU on May 28, 2009, 02:22:05 PM
They want Utopia.

good luck with that


    They want THEIR Utopia. I call their Utopia HELL.
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: Doc Savage on May 28, 2009, 02:39:51 PM
But here, being illegal is not a problem and all rights should be confered on said illegal.  What is the problem with sneaking over the border to canada?  They should take you with open arms right?
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: MrsSmith on May 28, 2009, 02:59:57 PM
If they think Canada is rough, they should try Mexico.   :thatsright:
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: Lord Undies on May 28, 2009, 03:00:32 PM
The Little Goons seem to be taking "love it or leave" as a suggestion.  I consider it an ultimatum.
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: thundley4 on May 28, 2009, 03:04:37 PM
If they think Canada is rough, they should try Mexico.   :thatsright:

Isn't Mexico the place that where immigrants have almost no rights?  I think I remember reading somewhere that illegals coming into Mexico from the south have a good chance of being shot.
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: Chris_ on May 28, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Isn't Mexico the place that where immigrants have almost no rights?  I think I remember reading somewhere that illegals coming into Mexico from the south have a good chance of being shot.

Mexico is the place where if you are caught as an illegal alien, you will be arrested, beaten, robbed (by la policia), and if you are female, likely sexually assaulted.  There are no court appointed lawyers for illegal aliens there, so you will be required to provide for your own defense attorney (after having been thoroughly robbed by the police, of course) - or not.  You will be tried for being in the country illegally, and upon conviction, sentenced to 2-5 years of hard labor incarceration.  Upon release from sentence, do not be caught in the country by any police official again, otherwise you get to start the cycle all over again.

Kinda makes you long for the "justice" system of the good old Estatos Unitas, eh?
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: Airwolf on May 28, 2009, 06:17:31 PM
I hear the Great Barrier Rreef is nice this time of year all they would need is a small raft to get there.
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: Vagabond on May 28, 2009, 11:14:13 PM
They could always try Anarctica.  It seems to meet most of their requirements.
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: Sam Adams on May 29, 2009, 04:45:58 AM
The saying "love it or leave it" should get people to choose to love their country. The fact that these DUers are actually considering leaving as an option means they do not love their country at all. That may not be a surprise to us, but it should be to them.
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: franksolich on May 29, 2009, 07:38:09 AM
The saying "love it or leave it" should get people to choose to love their country. The fact that these DUers are actually considering leaving as an option means they do not love their country at all. That may not be a surprise to us, but it should be to them.

The primitives are always looking for heaven on earth.

Of course they'll never find it.

Every time someone has tried to create a heaven on earth, it's resulted in catastrophe, a dystopia.

Of course, the primitives are SURE that this time around, the results will be different.

Such is the fate of those who refuse to acknowledge that our lives in this time and place are just but a short journey towards Eternal Life.

Life on earth should be tolerable, but it's never going to be heaven.

The primitives are just so stupid, just so really stupid.  Usually, one can then feel free to ignore them, but damn it, you and I are paying taxes to support their miserable existences, and so while we'd like to ignore them, we can't.

Our "investments" in people isn't turning out so well, is it?
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 29, 2009, 08:33:11 AM
Such is the fate of those who refuse to acknowledge that our lives in this time and place are just but a short journey towards Eternal Life.

Life on earth should be tolerable, but it's never going to be heaven.

The primitives are just so stupid, just so really stupid.  Usually, one can then feel free to ignore them, but damn it, you and I are paying taxes to support their miserable existences, and so while we'd like to ignore them, we can't.

Our "investments" in people isn't turning out so well, is it?

everybody run, Frank is channeling Bhudda!!
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: franksolich on May 29, 2009, 08:50:01 AM
everybody run, Frank is channeling Bhudda!!

Blame it on Pedro Picasso, who "subscribes" to Buddhism under the misimpression that Buddhism is antithetical to Christianity, and as long as it's anti-Christianity, Pedro Picasso's all for it.

As you know, I read Pedro Picasso a great deal, and am influenced by him.

I never paid much attention to Buddhism before; Asian culture and history aren't my "things" to do, they don't turn me on.  One can't be interested in all things, after all.

Stupid Pedro Picasso, on two counts.

Number one, Christianity and Buddhism are not in competition with each other; they're not at odds with each other.  We're talking an orange and a penquin here, not two apples.  We're talking a typewriter and the moon here.

Number two, if Pedro Picasso were at least minimally committed to Buddhism, he'd drop his decadently-wealthy life-style and materialism, and he'd become less paranoid, less Hate-filled, more serene.

But we all know how that goes.
Title: Re: Go effing where? "If you don't love it, leave it." And go where?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 29, 2009, 09:37:10 AM
Every time someone has tried to create a heaven on earth, it's resulted in catastrophe, a dystopia.

As long as all of them were trapped in it with no escape, and they didn't drag the rest of us into it with them, I'd be OK with that.