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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on May 28, 2009, 10:46:31 AM
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Oh my.
Atman (1000+ posts) Wed May-27-09 07:23 AM
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"Democrats have turned the Supreme Court nominations into a savage political affair."
Of course, Joey Scab said this, just moments ago. He pointed to the Clarence Thomas hearings, and how "disgraceful" they were. And to Robert Bork. And not once did Joe bother to question WHY either of these men were questioned. Joe, here is something to consider: sometime there is a REASON people such as "Zero-Experience" Thomas and Crazy Bob Bork draw deeper scrutiny -- because in one way or another, they are just enough outside of what the proverbial 'most people' would consider normal/desirable, and they are being considered for a lifetime appointment to what is arguably one of the most prestigious jobs in the land.
Some appointees, by virtue of their lack of a résumé or, ironically, maybe a little bit too much information, as with Robert Bork, deserve a little bit of checkin' out. Thomas was proclaimed by The Nominator-in-Chief as being the most qualified person in America. Is there really one person, regardless of political persuasion, who believes that? Clarence Thomas?! His CV at the time of his nomination, a mere 18 months behind the bench, was shorter than the Supreme's lunch time take-out order.
And Robert Bork? Sure, maybe he's brilliant. But that's not the point. Many of us know people whom we consider to be "brilliant." But often, they're bat-shit crazy, too. I don't think Bork was bat-shit, but he had a crazy beard and wore bow ties and he looked bat-shit crazy. Then he opened his mouth, and bats flew out, and it caused a lot of us to want to know what else was inside that cave. Bork's arrogance got him trouble -- plus the beard and bow-tie thing (CONTENT ALERT: HIGH LEVELS OF SARCASM DETECTED). IOW, politics.
There were legitimate issues with both Clarence Thomas' and Robert Bork's nominations. They deserved some scrutiny, and I know many DUers still harbor resentment against certain Dems who didn't block Thomas. To claim that it is THE DEMOCRATS who invented the whole idea of fighting Judicial appointees on ideological grounds is laughable if it weren't so sad. Sad, because Joe Scarborough, a suspected criminal himself, is given a daily forum through which to peddle his personal views as news, and goes unchallenged as he spouts the most ridiculous, baseless claims.
I wish he'd run for office. I think it'd force him off the air.
I'll bet Pedro Picasso picked that all up from the boob-tube, rather than from a newspaper or magazine, because reading is too much work.
underpants (1000+ posts) Wed May-27-09 07:24 AM
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1. Tina Brown "Are you saying the Republicans don't have an effective attack machine?"
Joe had no response to that one
I am not a huge fan of Tina Brown's but that was funny
rampart (32 posts) Wed May-27-09 07:28 AM
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2. right to privacy
bork searched the entire constitution and did not, anywhere, find a right to privacy.
the "federalist society" still believes this but knows better than to say it in front of a committe.
floridablue (826 posts) Wed May-27-09 07:30 AM
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3. Joe wisely turned down a bid for the Senate in 2010
I bet it didn't take much to make that decision.
kentuck (1000+ posts) Wed May-27-09 07:35 AM
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4. I love it when the Repubs make this argument...
There is always the deceit in Republican nominees. They hide information and intent. They nominate crazy folks, far out of the mainstream, and expect them to be treated like the "Democratic" nominee the last time around. No doubt, there is a lot of politics to go around, but if the Republicans did not so obviously use the Supreme Court for political purposes, it might be a little more civilized?
tanyev (1000+ posts) Wed May-27-09 08:15 AM
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5. Joey's conveniently forgotten that it was the religious right who tanked Harriet Miers.
Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Wed May-27-09 09:06 AM
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6. Republican's have turned Christmas into a savage political affair.
God how these people love to project.
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It started with the confirmation hearings that elevated Rehnquist to Chief Justice.
They tried to accuse him of blocking blacks from voting when he was a local election official in the 50s or 60s.
It was almost as disgraceful as Borks hearings and served as a warm up.
I watched them both and it was our current VP that was chairing them and happily went along.
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It started with the confirmation hearings that elevated Rehnquist to Chief Justice.
They tried to accuse him of blocking blacks from voting when he was a local election official in the 50s or 60s.
It was almost as disgraceful as Borks hearings and served as a warm up.
I watched them both and it was our current VP that was chairing them and happily went along.
To a liberal, anyone who looks at the constitution and believes it means what it says are teh debil.
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Some appointees, by virtue of their lack of a résumé or, ironically, maybe a little bit too much information, as with Robert Bork, deserve a little bit of checkin' out. Thomas was proclaimed by The Nominator-in-Chief as being the most qualified person in America. Is there really one person, regardless of political persuasion, who believes that? Clarence Thomas?! His CV at the time of his nomination, a mere 18 months behind the bench, was shorter than the Supreme's lunch time take-out order.
Wow, Pedro sure talks fancy for a dummie. Is he trying to impress his fellow dummies? I wonder if he drinks his tea with his pinkie in the air, too.
Hi Atman - we know you're lurking, you lurking lurker. You are far too narcissistic to not take a peek here now and then.
:rotf:
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DUmmy atman has only one objective in his silly posts at the DUmp: To see himself quoted here or at CU. He is undoubtedly still feeling euphoric over his Pedro nickname, and his designation here as the #1 DUmmy. Considering the miserable, impoverished, hateful lives that most DUmmies endure, it's a huge highlight. Likewise, I'm sure other contending DUmmies are bitterly disappointed at their lower ranking. Losers in every facet of life, now they are even failures at failing.
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It started with the confirmation hearings that elevated Rehnquist to Chief Justice.
They tried to accuse him of blocking blacks from voting when he was a local election official in the 50s or 60s.
It was almost as disgraceful as Borks hearings and served as a warm up.
I watched them both and it was our current VP that was chairing them and happily went along.
Actually, according to the history books and newsmagazines of the time, it started earlier than that.
Up until Richard Nixon (1969-1974) Supreme Court justices were selected only on the criteria of their judicial temperament and character (or, in some cases, because they were a buddy, a pal, of the president). This is why it was never a surprise that a Democrat president named a conservative, or a Republican president named a liberal.
Ideology didn't matter; only temperament and character.
Then when Richard Nixon nominated Clement Haynsworth (1971?--not sure), there started the trend--begun by Vast Teddy and Senator Birch Bayh (D-Indiana)--to use ideology as criteria.
As usual, and quite reasonably so, one can blame far-left-wing liberals.
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Atman is Primitive #1?
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Atman is Primitive #1?
Primitive #1 could NEVER be anybody BUT Pedro Picasso.
Even Primitive #2 is way way way down below Primitive #1.
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Primitive #1 could NEVER be anybody BUT Pedro Picasso.
Even Primitive #2 is way way way down below Primitive #1.
You know how much they worry over this stuff, Frank. I wouldn't have ranked anyone higher than 50 (ie, started at #50 and on down), and then let them worry over it.
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You know how much they worry over this stuff, Frank. I wouldn't have ranked anyone higher than 50 (ie, started at #50 and on down), and then let them worry over it.
Yeah, the primitives worry a lot.
But they've got only themselves to blame, given their hysterical paranoia.
I haven't numbered a whole lot of primitives yet--and don't plan on numbering the drek primitives at all, hoping they accidentally run in front of a speeding semi-truck or something, for the Betterment of Humanity in General.
The primitives are numbered according to their anthropoligical peculiarities.
Primitive #1 = Pedro Picasso, "Atman"
Primitive #5 - the sparkling husband primitive, "Stinky the Clown"
Primitive #7 - the Rita Hayworth primitive, "Tambourine LaBamba"
Primitive #11 - the baby-talking warped primitive, "Warpy"
Primitive #18 - "tularetom"
Primitive #19 - the Bostonian Drunkard
Primitive #43 - the shadowy primitive, "Shadow69"
Primitive #47 - the legendary herb primitive, "Mythsaje"
Primitive #61 - the grouchy old primitive, "NNN0LH1"
Of course, there's a lot more, but these are the only ones I've observed lately.
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Yeah, the primitives worry a lot.
But they've got only themselves to blame, given their hysterical paranoia.
I haven't numbered a whole lot of primitives yet--and don't plan on numbering the drek primitives at all, hoping they accidentally run in front of a speeding semi-truck or something, for the Betterment of Humanity in General.
Primitive #51 = Pedro Picasso, "Atman"
Primitive #55 - the sparkling husband primitive, "Stinky the Clown"
Primitive #57 - the Rita Hayworth primitive, "Tambourine LaBamba"
Primitive #61 - the baby-talking warped primitive, "Warpy"
Primitive #68 - "tularetom"
Primitive #69 - the Bostonian Drunkard
Primitive #93 - the shadowy primitive, "Shadow69"
Primitive #97 - the legendary herb primitive, "Mythsaje"
Primitive #121 - the grouchy old primitive, "NNN0LH1"
See, they'd be freeking out about why they are not in the top 20, Frank.
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Primitive #1 = Pedro Picasso, "Atman"
Primitive #5 - the sparkling husband primitive, "Stinky the Clown"
Primitive #7 - the Rita Hayworth primitive, "Tambourine LaBamba"
Primitive #11 - the baby-talking warped primitive, "Warpy"
Primitive #18 - "tularetom"
Primitive #19 - the Bostonian Drunkard
Primitive #43 - the shadowy primitive, "Shadow69"
Primitive #47 - the legendary herb primitive, "Mythsaje"
Primitive #61 - the grouchy old primitive, "NNN0LH1"
OK, no way I can ever keep them straight, not even with a DUmmiedex