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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on May 27, 2009, 04:09:49 PM
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Shagbark Hickory (69 posts) Mon May-25-09 12:39 PM
Original Stupidity (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x224466)
I'm all for bearing arms so long as we go back to the arms we had 200 years ago
I'm all for bearing arms so long as we go back to the arms we had 200 years ago.
That's only fair if you want to try to interpret what kind of arms the forefathers had in mind when they wrote the consititution, I think they involved muskets and not AK47s. Large manually loaded rifles that are impossible to conceal.
There, you can still exercise your right to bear arms and protect your family from the boogeyman.
Modern day weapons are not what they had in mind when they granted commonfolk the right to bear them.
Hey, as long as the rest of the world's militaries does the same- I think you are on to something (or on something- more like)
Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Tue May-26-09 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #3
69. Seriosuly, the whole "only guns 200 years ago" argument
has got to be the dumbest page of an already dumb anti-gun playbook.
Shagbark Hickory (69 posts) Mon May-25-09 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #34
42. I'm confusled
Isn't the a forum for liberals and democrats only?
I know there are some democrats that are pro gun but the support for pro-gun legislation I've seen here is just as strong as I've seen it in bipartisan forums.
The party of fear is the republican party. I'd imagine there's a republican underground for that.
That's because you are a DUmpmonkie and have no sense.
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I might go for civilians just having muskets and flint lock pistols.........if we back up everything to the way it was. We stone the queers, enslave Obama, cut out welfare, stop SS witholding, eliminate income taxes,......hey, this list could get long as out freedoms or returned.
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And only senators picked by governors will be seated in the US senate.
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And only senators picked by governors will be seated in the US senate.
...and only males that own property can vote.
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The other way of looking at it is that individuals could and did own all of the most advanced infantry weapons and other ordnance of the day, to include cannon equal to Army field artillery at trade forts and matching contemporary naval ordnance in quality if not numbers aboard merchantmen and licensed privateers operating under Letters of Marque.
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Hey, as long as the rest of the world's militaries does the same- I think you are on to something (or on something- more like)
That's because you are a DUmpmonkie and have no sense.
I wonder if he means "boogeymen" like the one who tried to rob a pharmacy in Austin TX, and pulled his gun while telling the pharmacist "let's get it on" (he was trying to rob them of oxycodone), when the owner of said pharmacy came out his office and shot said would-be druggie robber?
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I thought the argument was that the Constitution is a living breathing document adaptable to the times.
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Wonder what having or performing an abortion would have garnered one back then? :banghead:
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Shagbark Hickory (69 posts) Mon May-25-09 12:39 PM
Original Stupidity
I'm all for bearing arms so long as we go back to the arms we had 200 years ago
I'm all for bearing arms so long as we go back to the arms we had 200 years ago.
That's only fair if you want to try to interpret what kind of arms the forefathers had in mind when they wrote the consititution, I think they involved muskets and not AK47s. Large manually loaded rifles that are impossible to conceal.
There, you can still exercise your right to bear arms and protect your family from the boogeyman.
Modern day weapons are not what they had in mind when they granted commonfolk the right to bear them
Not for nothing but "they" didn't "grant" the "commonfolk" squat. "They" prevented the government from stealing our natural rights both then and (in part thanks to guns) for future generations.
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Shagbark Hickory (69 posts) Mon May-25-09 12:39 PM
Original Stupidity
I'm all for bearing arms so long as we go back to the arms we had 200 years ago
I'm all for bearing arms so long as we go back to the arms we had 200 years ago.
Can we roll back taxes and the size of government to match?
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I thought the argument was that the Constitution is a living breathing document adaptable to the times.
Like free speech, tolerance, charity, empathy....only when it goes their way.
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I thought the argument was that the Constitution is a living breathing document adaptable to the times.
Funny how that works, ain't it? When they manage to even come close to interpreting the US Constitution correctly, they want it to mean strictly what it did then, but when it suits their purposes, it has to be read with today's society in mind. :mental:
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They might take note that 200 years ago there were no DUmpmonkeys. People like them were allowed to simply starve to death. Another admirable facet of 18th century America.
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They might take note that 200 years ago there were no DUmpmonkeys. People like them were allowed to simply starve to death. Another admirable facet of 18th century America.
Those were the days, my friend. We thought they'd never end.
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I'm sure with all that white light and good intentions broadcast thru their "good" feelings, they would have been burned at the stake for being witches. Atheists didn't exist you moron!
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I'm all for bearing arms so long as we go back to the arms we had 200 years ago
I'm all for bearing arms so long as we go back to the arms we had 200 years ago.
does that go for tax policy, selection of Senators, size of govt too?