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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on May 27, 2009, 02:48:54 PM
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undeterred(1000+ posts)
Tue May-26-09 09:09 PM
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So where are all the economic stimulus jobs? (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5726163)
Does anyone know of anyone who is back to work as a result of the stimulus bill?
BuyingThyme (1000+ posts)
Tue May-26-09 09:12 PM
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2. Jobs are not really the stimulus.
The anticipation of jobs is the real stimulus.
Pass it on.
:clueless:
cagesoulman (106 posts)
Tue May-26-09 10:16 PM
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26. Give it ****ing time!
It's gonna take some time to start shit up. For the green jobs, a lot of the industry actually has to be built first. For other stuff, you need some start up time. Obama's only been in office for 4 months and the stimulus has been out there only for half that time. Bureaucracies take time to get the checks out there.
LWolf(1000+ posts)
Tue May-26-09 11:39 PM
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44. Not in education.
doc03 (1000+ posts)
Tue May-26-09 11:42 PM
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45. NO n/t
4_TN_TITANS (1000+ posts)
Wed May-27-09 11:29 AM
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50. Large projects take time to filter down.
This was my problem with the stimulus - it depends on the same old watering down network of contractors, subcontractor, sub-subcontractors, etc. Everybody takes their cut until the guy at the bottom actually doing the work is left with hardly anything. And, since he works for a contractor wanting to pay the least for labor, there's a good chance part of his pay gets sent back home to the family in Guatamala anyway.
For real infrastructure stimulus, we need the proven WPA, CCC, etc.-the organizations that skipped the middle-man contractors and went straight to the people.
Trickle-down economics at work, huh?
Xithras (1000+ posts)
Wed May-27-09 11:38 AM
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51. The economic stimulus will create few new jobs.
Based on the way the money is being doled out, it is mostly being used to keep currently employed people employed. Most of the stimulus projects that I've seen listed were already started but on the verge of being shut down. Stimulus money is keeping those projects going, but doesn't help the already unemployed.
A stimulus that keeps the problem from getting worse is admirable too.
Bullshit, you'd be beating President Bush like a drum if there weren't any new jobs being created.
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Oh my.
This is a little more than the fourth month into the 0bamareich, and no new jobs yet.
We were promised.
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Oh my.
This is a little more than the fourth month into the 0bamareich, and no new jobs yet.
We were promised.
these idiots think the WPA and CCC helped the economy??
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Oh my.
This is a little more than the fourth month into the 0bamareich, and no new jobs yet.
We were promised.
Im not concerned so much for the job as I am for my Government Pony, every day I look outside and I see hardly any evidence of ponies or ponylike activity.
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts)
Tue May-26-09 09:12 PM
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2. Jobs are not really the stimulus.
The anticipation of jobs is the real stimulus.
Pass it on.
That is truly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard in my entire life.
No exaggeration either....it is hard to imagine that if the person was serious they could be so inane.
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so what will the inhabitants of Skinner's island do when unemployment gets really rough with the UAW layoffs hit? Face it, Obama now owns the economy with his stimulus package and his takeover of industries. His willing accomplices in the media and the Congress will turn on him like a pack of dogs on a cow bone once the electorate gets restless. A day of reckoning is coming, it won't be pretty and it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
What is the over and under on Obama actually taking responsibility for his mess or will he simply blame Congress?
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What is the over and under on Obama actually taking responsibility for his mess or will he simply blame Congress?
He will blame congress without a doubt. That is why he sat back and let Reid and Pelosi have free rein concocting that mess. If it worked, 0Bama would have been a hero for pushing for it's passage. When it inevitably fails, he'll claim that his behind the scenes suggestions were ignored, but he had to sign the bill given him.
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Do you all realize that Jukin is still paying his own mortgage and other bills....INSANE. The Won told me I would be free of those tiresome chores...whiskey tango foxtrot?
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What is the over and under on Obama actually taking responsibility for his mess or will he simply blame Congress?
He blames Bush. Corporate greed. Selfishness among Americans and low taxes being too low
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Im not concerned so much for the job as I am for my Government Pony, every day I look outside and I see hardly any evidence of ponies or ponylike activity.
Yeah, where's my pony? I need him/her to plow my garden.
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There are only so many flag jobs at a road construction site.
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(And where's my freaking pony?) -All the freaky ones are sent to San Fransico. Nancy knows how to keep her voters happy.
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Im not concerned so much for the job as I am for my Government Pony, every day I look outside and I see hardly any evidence of ponies or ponylike activity.
I haven't seen my pony either, yet.
Saturday I got all excited because there was a big commotion and the sound of hooves in the side yard, but it was a false alarm. Just the neighboring farmer's heifers making a jailbreak and munching on my wife's flower beds. (true story!)
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That is truly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard in my entire life.
No exaggeration either....it is hard to imagine that if the person was serious they could be so inane.
I am almost inclined to think it was sarcasm - an implicit criticism of Teh Zero, but veiled so as to protect the poster from the ensuing righteous indignation of the faithful.
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Well DUmmies just remember as a member of barry the zero's cabinet already said, "No White Construction Workers".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duQDVTczGbA
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I am almost inclined to think it was sarcasm - an implicit criticism of Teh Zero, but veiled so as to protect the poster from the ensuing righteous indignation of the faithful.
DAT, you're a lot smarter than your chosen handle would let on. Neighbor, I gotta side with DAT on this.
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DAT, you're a lot smarter than your chosen handle would let on. Neighbor, I gotta side with DAT on this.
Maybe but how does one ever know for sure with the primitives.
Things you would scratch your head over with normal folks are not surprising coming from them.
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Maybe but how does one ever know for sure with the primitives.
Things you would scratch your head over with normal folks are not surprising coming from them.
While this is true, some of the primitives can be pretty subtle.
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I wonder what jobs those UAW people are going to get once those 14 GM Factories close down later this year? Chrysler sure as shit isn't going to hire them? Oh I know they;ll be future ACORN workers.
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I wonder what jobs those UAW people are going to get once those 14 GM Factories close down later this year? Chrysler sure as shit isn't going to hire them? Oh I know they;ll be future ACORN workers.
What do ya mean "FUTURE"? I gots me $20 that says that ACORN is well stocked with union thugs.