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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-21-09 01:35 PM
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The Great Experiment: 1776-2000 CE. R.I.P.
Edited on Thu May-21-09 01:36 PM by Mythsaje
It seems as though our founding fathers were correct. The maintenance of the American Republic was left ultimately in the hands of the people, and because of our neglect, we've lost it. We have no control anymore, and, as Steppenwolf put it, it's become a monster that will not obey.
Translation: he had to clean the men's room again.
When we were first told that we wouldn't be pursuing criminal charges for those in charge of prosecuting an illegal war or violation of the Geneva convention and U.S. law on torture, ostensibly so we could concentrate on much-needed progressive "reforms," I grumbled a little, but thought, "well, maybe we do need to spend our political capital on getting things done." It wasn't a great argument, but there wasn't a lot we could do about it. Yell and scream all we wanted, the decision had been made.
Mainly, DUmbass, it's because there's no "there" there, and if you did roll the dice trying to press bogus charges, the Democrats would have a hard time running for a ****in' school board.
But here we are, looking at the so-called "reforms" that have come down the line and thinking "hey, this isn't what we signed up for. This wasn't what we had in mind when we worked so hard to get a Democratic majority in Congress and a Democrat in the White House." In fact, what we're seeing of health care "reform" and the credit card "reform," not to mention billions of bailout dollars going to the very people who've put us in this mess with very little managing to go to the people who not only need it the most, but have the best chance of jump-starting the economy through domestic spending. Not that it's likely to do a lot of good in the long run because too many jobs of value have been outsourced and it doesn't look like anyone is interested in getting them back.
You mean The Messiah sold you and your dickhead friends down the river? Well, you might as well deal with it. ACORN has probably already cast your vote for him in 2012.
In short, the "reforms" we're seeing are like slapping a band-aid over arterial spray. The American economy is bleeding out, and those who are allegedly "smarter than us" are arguing about which band-aid to use. We, in short, are being robbed blind and lied to by everyone in charge.
So, do you feel stupid for voting for an empty suit with ears yet?
Nice.
And even worse (and, yes, it does get worse), the fact that we're declining to investigate the crimes done in our name, in pursuing justice against those who dragged our name so far into the mud, leaves them in position to come back around at us in a decade or so, after the complicit corporate media has a chance to launder the Republican image and the vast majority of Americans have forgotten the worst abuses. Americans are optimists, which is often a good thing, but expecting "good" out of the baddest of the bad isn't optimism, it's naivete at it's most basic level.
"Baddest?" I'll take "Reasons why Saje Williams will never sell a book" for $100, Alex.
Witness how the media has handled the whole Obama/Cheney "dueling speeches" nonsense. This war criminal is being held up as a viable counterpoint to the President, and his approval rating is climbing. He's like the embodiment of evil, or at least as close as we're likely to see in this day and age--easily as vile in his way as the worst Islamic terrorist or brutal dictator. Yet he's being allowed--no, invited--to whitewash himself in the eyes of the American people.
He's forgotten more about foreign policy and defense policy than you'll ever know, you ****ing throwback loser.
I don't have a lot of faith in our leadership at this point. We know what the Republicans stand for, but I'm not sure what our leaders stand for. Not us, certainly. Or at least, it doesn't appear that way.
No, Saje Williams, this is CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN. Remember how you were all in tears from September through January?
Pretty speeches are one thing, but words are just that. Words. When one's actions don't jibe with what one is saying, it sends a clear message. WE aren't important anymore. We can be lulled into silence, hypnotized into complacency, and left standing in the dark while our country is dismantled around us and shipped off to parts unknown. Or, at least, a significant number of us can. And those of us who are most likely to act as watchdogs are laughed at, disdained, and marginalized.
Then why were your DU brethren spooging all over their monitors at what a great speech it was? Face it, you guys wanted a black guy in the White House who can read a teleprompter. ****, man, did you guys ever consider Stuart Scott? He could have at least thrown in a BOO-YAH in there once in a while.
I was all ready to cheer this administration on. I thought it was a wonderful thing that we'd elected an intelligent, articulate, self-admitted Geek to the White House. The fact that he's African-American (quite literally) made it even more of a victory. But the one thing I've seen in the first 100 or so days is that we're moving in the wrong direction on almost every issue, and those where we're not, we're being asked to accept a placebo in place of anything remotely like a cure.
NOW do you regret choosing people based on race alone?
I'm not impressed. And I really, really wanted to be.
That's how the entire world feels about your shitty fiction and your flatulent screeds, ****wit.
I guess SOMEBODY has to take over for Pitt (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5697934&mesg_id=5697934)
FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-21-09 01:37 PM
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1. Whaaaaa! Obama didn't fix EVERYTHING instantly. Whaaaaaa.
Hee hee hee hee Mythsaje gets rejected.
Sorry to bring the rimey odor of Mythsaje farts around here...but I just can't resist.
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wow, pathetic losers. Their guy wants to be able to lock up suspected terrorists forever without trial.... and we know who this admin thinks are terrorists don't we??
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Mythsaje
The American economy is bleeding out, and those who are allegedly "smarter than us" are arguing about which band-aid to use.
The Achilles' Heel of the libs; they view themselves as the smartest people on the planet, just ask them. Once they lay that false foundation, then everything else they say and/or do automatically falls apart.
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Oh man, what a disappointment.
The legendary herb primitive, a second-tier primitive, has gone downhill.
He's not using his best talents in writing.
A Thomas Jefferson or Walter Lippmann he isn't; a Ring Lardner or Charles Kuralt he could be, but doesn't want to be.
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The Achilles' Heel of the libs; they view themselves as the smartest people on the planet, just ask them. Once they lay that false foundation, then everything else they say and/or do automatically falls apart.
Yes sir! I explain to my liberal friends that if you start out with the premise that 1+1=3 then everything after is flawed no matter how impeccable your math is later. Since these people are soc, womyn's, black studies people they get the thousand yard stare and come back with "Don't you feel..."
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-21-09 01:37 PM
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1. Whaaaaa! Obama didn't fix EVERYTHING instantly. Whaaaaaa.
As far as this trumped-up "torture" issue is concerned I couldn't be happier if I were on a seal hunt.
Congress has denied funds to Obama to close Gitmo or to transfer any of the detainees, the dems have run tail-tucked from a GOP bill to see if the CIA lied to Fancy Nancy and Obama himself is only damning Bush with words while adopting and expanding Bush-era policies.
With this zealot and all his/er/its kindred think Obama will do anything other than bloviate, ever? By this time next year Obama won't even have Bush to hide behind to explain his failures to appease you, but fail he will.
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What scares me is the preventive detention trial balloon that the Messiah personally sent up yesterday. No probable cause, no crime, no hint of any legal impropriety........just preventive detention of an individual for what ever time the Messiah decides........if this isn't Stalinist, i don't know what is
.http://www.infowars.com/obama-works-on-preventive-detention-plan/
Couple this with the DHS report on domestic terrorism and you see the gameplan to radically change the United States and it's Consstitution.
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What scares me is the preventive detention trial balloon that the Messiah personally sent up yesterday. No probable cause, no crime, no hint of any legal impropriety........just preventive detention of an individual for what ever time the Messiah decides........if this isn't Stalinist, i don't know what is
.http://www.infowars.com/obama-works-on-preventive-detention-plan/
Couple this with the DHS report on domestic terrorism and you see the gameplan to radically change the United States and it's Consstitution.
infowars?
Really?