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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on May 07, 2009, 12:26:18 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5609545
Oh my.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 04:32 AM
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bullying makes kids psychotic
BEIJING, May 4 (Xinhuanet) -- Children who are constantly bullied are at greater risk for developing psychotic symptoms such as hallucinations or delusions as they hit adolescence.
British researchers said Monday children who were consistently victimized by their peers at ages 8 or 10 were twice as likely to have psychotic symptoms by the time they hit adolescence. That risk was even greater if the bullying was particularly chronic or severe.
Researcher Andrea Schreier, PhD, of Warwick Medical School at the University of Warwick in England, and colleagues said bullying -- especially when it is severe or chronic -- can have serious consequences for some children, and may even act as a trigger for people who are genetically predisposed to schizophrenia.
The study, published in the Archives of General Psychiatry, included more than 6,400 children in Bristol, England, who were evaluated annually from ages 7 to about 13.
This study is not bullshit,Because what was shown in that study,it happened to me. I was misdiagnosed as schizophrenic for years,because by the time I lost it,(around age 13)psychiatry itself was still in denial about the effects of trauma and bullying on people's mental health.The shrinks gave me ever increasing doses of anti-psychotic drugs of different types and none"worked".Because I was not really schizophrenic, I was traumatized bullied for years until I just cracked up,the "hallucinations" were alters.
It is amazing to me that people haven't figured out how abuse triggers mental illness and how being around abusive people and psychopaths authoritarian and narcissistic personality types actually harms people unfortunate enough to grow up or attend school and be around the toxic personality types.
Certain personality types, behaviors and abuses they do to others and the bystander effect,the just world theory and enabling all combine into a very crazy making mix for those targeted by bullies.
We need to do something with the toxic people in our midst, the abusers,the bullies, control freaks,assholes and fake'alpha' types.
They are who cause humanity to be so messed up.
The Inuit were onto something with the bullies/psychopaths in their midst. They would observe the person without a conscience, and one day the hunters would take this asshole on a hunting trip,push the tyrant bully into the ice and let him die there,and because they did not tolerate bullies in their culture their lives were more peaceful,and humane.Not perfect but BETTER off...without toxic bullies.
And interestingly primitive cultures have better outcomes from mental illness than"developed" nations.
Wonder why?
Psychopaths make up just 4% of the total U.S. population, but the damage and devastation they wreak is extreme and widespread.
Psychopaths, also known as sociopaths, comprise 20-25% of the prison population, but 50% of those who have committed serious crimes. However, the majority of psychopaths are not violent—most are users, scam artists and shady businesspeople. There is some evidence that psychopaths may be overrepresented in the fields of business, politics and entertainment.
Read about how eliminating bullies changed a culture in a babboon colony.
links omitted because they're pretty stupid
Oh, I dunno.
Seriously, bullies can be a problem; it's no laughing matter.
But one suspects the subway cat overdramatizes things.
Me? Being an undersized child, deaf, no ears, of course I became familiar with the phenomenon at an early age. But as I already had acknowledgement of God instilled in me, such was of short duration. God after all had given me a sense of humor.
Probably the subway cat should've tried God.
exboyfil (374 posts) Thu May-07-09 07:20 AM
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6. I was bullied up until 10th grade until I got into a group of good friends who watched my back and I watched theirs. The first day in Junior High my daughter was bullied by three 8th or 9th grade boys (she could not identify them). As far as I can tell, and I talk to her often - the incident has not been repeated. My daughter fortunately has a group of high achieving girls around her who are really good friends - interested in academics and making something of their lives - a far cry from most of her classmates.
Most teachers are useless when dealing with discipline problems. I knew I had an issue in 9th grade when I observed someone burning the tire seat of my bike, and my Honors English teacher was standing next to me. I pointed out the incident to her, and she did absolutely nothing. If an adult in authority does nothing, then how can a kid 2 or more grades lower deal with a group of bullies???
The best thing my parents ever did was move out of California. It literally saved my life.
Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 07:16 AM
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5. The reason primitive peoples tend to have better psychological outcomes seems fairly obvious to me..
We are evolved for a neolithic lifestyle of associating with a small band of people, maybe ten to thirty or so, that we know intimately.
Modern society is very different from what humans are evolved to deal with, we are constantly exposed to total strangers and a great many of us have a hard time dealing with that.
It's a truism that shy people are not shy (or at least as shy anyway) around others that they know well, they are shy around strangers and relative strangers. Shy people are at a greatly increased risk to be bullied in modern cultures (ie cultures in which we tend to deal with a lot of people we do not know well).
whistler162 (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 08:42 AM
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16. What a load of twattle!
and yes that is all the comment that "study" merits!
The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 09:12 AM
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18. Really...
And on what basis do you so declare?
UP is likely one of the handful of posters on this board who has a better handle on psychology than most psychologists/psychiatrists I know. If she thinks the study has merit, I'd wager she's right.
I'll take a closer look myself. If you have some specific concern with the methodology, let's have it.
The now-famous formica primitive, the lying tits primitive's mentoree:
formercia (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 09:03 AM
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17. I have to deal with it every day
You know, I've noticed a steady increase in use of the word "primitive" on Skins's island recently. It used to be that the word was used, oh, maybe, three or four times a year. Now it's up to that many per day. One wonders what's up with that.
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It is amazing to me that people haven't figured out how abuse triggers mental illness and how being around abusive people and psychopaths authoritarian and narcissistic personality types actually harms people unfortunate enough to grow up or attend school and be around the toxic personality types.
Obama and his gaggle of goose stepping liberal minions are THE most narcissistic people on the planet.
So.....
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 09:12 AM
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18. Really...
And on what basis do you so declare?
UP is likely one of the handful of posters on this board who has a better handle on psychology than most psychologists/psychiatrists I know. If she thinks the study has merit, I'd wager she's right.
I'll take a closer look myself. If you have some specific concern with the methodology, let's have it.
I really hope this person calls itself "The Doctor" because it has a PhD in native American basket weaving and not someone with a medical or psychology degree. To think someone who posts long, disconnected rants on a regular basis, who believes the government forced her to drink a shitload of pineapple juice (with no bathroom break) when she was a little girl because it made her able to do remote viewing for them, whose father escaped from the government in a pickup truck with UP in tow, while being shot at, wears a tail in public, is tattooing itself to look like a cat, believes itself to be a male panther trapped in a female human body, believes itself to have multiple personalities (perhaps the one posting today has NO medical experience) would be an expert at ANYTHING, let alone med/psych stuff would be stupid. I can barely get through her rants without getting a little crazy myself. It is the queen/king/main kitty of finding useless links, though.
Cindie
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 09:12 AM
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18. Really...
And on what basis do you so declare?
UP is likely one of the handful of posters on this board who has a better handle on psychology than most psychologists/psychiatrists I know. If she thinks the study has merit, I'd wager she's right.
I'll take a closer look myself. If you have some specific concern with the methodology, let's have it
I really like to eat bacon but that does not make me an expert on swine.
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formercia (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 09:03 AM
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17. I have to deal with it every day
Well DUH! Any adult who runs around telling strangers about how he's a former top secret super spy and George HW Bush is out to kill him and hires high school kids to harass his children probably does get a lot of abuse.
My guess is that most of the abuse is along the lines of "Dude, you really need to go get professional help". :rotf:
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undergroundpanther
We need to do something with the toxic people in our midst, the abusers,the bullies, control freaks,assholes and fake'alpha' types.
They are who cause humanity to be so messed up.
The Inuit were onto something with the bullies/psychopaths in their midst. They would observe the person without a conscience, and one day the hunters would take this ******* on a hunting trip,push the tyrant bully into the ice and let him die there,and because they did not tolerate bullies in their culture their lives were more peaceful,and humane.Not perfect but BETTER off...without toxic bullies.
We need to do something about those bullies. Let's Kill Them!! That would be the humane thing to do. :mental:
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We need to do something about those bullies. Let's Kill Them!! That would be the humane thing to do. :mental:
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I wonder what bullying looks like to UGP. I mean anyone who deliberately tattoos oneself with panther stripes and wears a tail when walking down the street can't expect to go unnoticed. How could you not comment on that? For someone who supposedly wants to be left alone (well, except for that whole increase my government check thing) it sure does a lot of things that scream LOOK AT ME, I'M REALLY ****IN' WEIRD!!!"
Cindie
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From the Department of Redundancy Department:
subway cat being psychotic
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From the Department of Redundancy Department:
subway cat being psychotic
I do tend to do that, don't I, sir?
However, please notice it's not just a redundancy, but there's a DOUBLE redundancy in the headline.
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I bet everyone here was bullied at some point in time during school and may very well have done it to others.
It is mean but what kids do so if UP was in it`s "I am a male cat inside this female body" mode then guess what fool.....you are going to get ridiculed and teased.
Stupid waste of air.
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I was bullied from 1st grade to 9th, when I broke a football player's jaw after he pushed me into a locker. I think I'm pretty well adjusted despite it.
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I was bullied from 1st grade to 9th, when I broke a football player's jaw after he pushed me into a locker. I think I'm pretty well adjusted despite it.
I mean, I've only seen you bite the head off of ONE bat... :cheersmate:
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I mean, I've only seen you bite the head off of ONE bat... :cheersmate:
:lmao:
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I really hope this person calls itself "The Doctor" because it has a PhD in native American basket weaving and not someone with a medical or psychology degree. To think someone who posts long, disconnected rants on a regular basis, who believes the government forced her to drink a shitload of pineapple juice (with no bathroom break) when she was a little girl because it made her able to do remote viewing for them, whose father escaped from the government in a pickup truck with UP in tow, while being shot at, wears a tail in public, is tattooing itself to look like a cat, believes itself to be a male panther trapped in a female human body, believes itself to have multiple personalities (perhaps the one posting today has NO medical experience) would be an expert at ANYTHING, let alone med/psych stuff would be stupid. I can barely get through her rants without getting a little crazy myself. It is the queen/king/main kitty of finding useless links, though.
Cindie
I agree.
By the way, you left out her visits from Blackie the Ghost Chicken and her astral travels to Panther Mountain.
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Does bullying make you psychotic or does being psychotic make you a more likely target for bullies?