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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on May 01, 2009, 08:09:57 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5573604
Oh my.
tekisui (1000+ posts) Fri May-01-09 08:13 AM
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When the Allied Forces Liberated the Concentration Camps, German Citizens Were Forced to tour the camps to witness what had been done in their name, in their own cities by their government.
Some in local governments and members of the Nazi party were even forced to transport and care for the living and bury the dead.
We need to see ALL of the evidence of torture that has not been destroyed. Little old conservative grandparents need to see what was done in our name. Children in school need to be shocked, so they will never forget. We need to put on full display for our country what was done in our name.
Every bit of it, no matter how disturbing.
Oh my again.
Now, I am ALL in favor of people having to inspect the consequences of their decisions, and so I agree with the terriyaki primitive. I agree wholeheartedly.
But of course that means the primitives have to quit complaining about posters showing aborted infants, or pieces of aborted infants, too.
indepat (1000+ posts) Fri May-01-09 08:42 AM
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3. Appropriate analogy: our national collective noses need to be thoroughly rubbed
in the entire collection of atrocities associated with our Iraqi venture so no one can disavow knowledge of what was done in our name.
Yeah, sure, and of course other ventures where great physical and emotional injury was inflicted upon people, such as the War on Poverty--bloodied bodies of kids in ghettos all shot up, Mary Jo Kopechne, dead drug addicts, the subway cat, &c., &c., &c.
Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Fri May-01-09 08:59 AM
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4. They had to help clean up the camps.
As franksolich said, he's all for this; it's called "taking responsibility for one's actions."
Abortion enthusiasts, for example, should have to go clean up the dead infants.
It's a great idea; when can we start?
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This is typical Little Goon Stop-At-The-End-Of-The-Nose thinking. I get a tingle up my leg when the Little Goons have a (premature) "Gotcha Moment", which in their pickled mind means they have won the argument. They never consider the "long math" version of their conclusions. The natural logical extensions to their thinking never crosses their minds. The abortion photos are a good example.
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For a group that has advocated policies that have destroyed the black family,turned the cities into drug ganglands they sure can generate a lot of fake outrage over nothing.
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Of course, the big difference is that the Nazi concentration camp victims were innocent people, who happened to be chosen for genocide. The Gitmo residents WANT TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE!!!!
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Of course, the big difference is that the Nazi concentration camp victims were innocent people, who happened to be chosen for genocide. The Gitmo residents WANT TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE!!!!
My Dear...DUmmies NEVER let a little things like FACTS get in the way of a good rant... :cheersmate:
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Great idea, send a truckload of the internees around to the farm, I'll be glad to take care of them. Can I keep the truck when I'm done?
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Okay, so the DUmmies want us to be exposed to the "tortured" prisoners at Guantanamo. I assume that at the same time we will receive detailed information of why they are there, and the results of their interrogations, like, oh say, the prevention of a terrorist attack in LA.
Millions of people died in the Concentration Camps in Germany, I have not heard of any who have been executed in Guantanamo. All of the methods that I've heard about in Guantanamo have been psychological. As far as I know, no actual physical damage has been caused by interrogations at Guantanamo. They were captured while committing acts against American troops, they are not innocent civilians, and the DUmmies somehow think in their little brains that these are comparable events? What would we see if we toured Gitmo. We would see well fed, healthy men, who have had their food preferences catered too, and who have an arrow pointing to Mecca in their cells. There would not be any grown men who weigh 94 pounds due to malnutrition, or pits of bodies.
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I don't care if my mole is blown now. I'm taking these ****ers to school.
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I don't care if my mole is blown now. I'm taking these ****ers to school.
Be sure to let us know how it comes out.
Near the onset of the War for the Liberation of Iraq, I frequently stated that opponents of it, enthusiasts of the genocidal homocidal Saddam Hussein, be forced to not only view pictures of, but to see first-hand, to touch, to smell, the bodies of the hundreds of thousands of people murdered by him.
It's always good for people to be in touch with reality.
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I doubt I'll get much further. I can't view the DUmp from work, and I'll probably only get one more chance to post before leaving from work.
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I doubt I'll get much further. I can't view the DUmp from work, and I'll probably only get one more chance to post before leaving from work.
You do good work, sir, and I admire and respect and even like you for it.
The difference between a primitive and a soldier (either one of ours, or one of theirs) is that a primitive remains blissfully walled-off from seeing the consequences of his actions, while a soldier (either one of ours, or one of theirs) is acutely aware of the consequences of any action he undertakes.
This is what generally makes a soldier a better person as compared with the usual run of humanity, or of primitives.
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Thank you for the compliment Frank.
Keep watching. It's gonna get real bloody in there soon. Some asshole actually brought up Kent State and Mai Lai as justification to hate the military.
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I doubt I'll get much further. I can't view the DUmp from work, and I'll probably only get one more chance to post before leaving from work.
It is a noble effort, but I fear you are trying to physically coerse a equus ferus caballus who is no longer life-viable.
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It would be best for anyone with a viable mole to just stay the Hell out of that thread, it's as much of a mole-trap as a "Do you support gay marriage?" poll.
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Fri May-01-09 11:00 AM
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25. Are you denying that torture occurred?
Are you denying the brutality inflicted upon many of the detainees? That sure seems to be what you are asserting with your warm, fuzzy, pro-propaganda pics. Do you agree with Rush that GITMO is like a tropical spa for detainees?
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Fri May-01-09 11:01 AM
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27. You missed the point, entirely.
We abused, tortured and killed detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Gitmo. Many of whom were innocent.
We don't have to be as bad as Nazis to be very very wrong. You are either an idiot, a torture apologist or willfully ignorant.
Here's what you've missed so far.
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Well I just got my last post in. I doubt I'll still have an account there when I get home tonight.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri May-01-09 12:13 PM
Original message
When the Allied Forces Liberated the Concentration Camps, German Citizens Were Forced
Edited on Fri May-01-09 12:13 PM by tekisui
to tour the camps to witness what had been done in their name, in their own cities by their government.
Some in local governments and members of the Nazi party were even forced to transport and care for the living and bury the dead.
We need to see ALL of the evidence of torture that has not been destroyed. Little old conservative grandparents need to see what was done in our name. Children in school need to be shocked, so they will never forget. We need to put on full display for our country what was done in our name.
Every bit of it, no matter how disturbing.
They don't DENY the Holocaust...they just deny it was all that bad. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5573604&mesg_id=5573604)
Lynndie England pointing to some dude's nuts somehow doesn't evoke the same horror as children in Nazi ovens. Dogpiles of Iraqi dudes somehow don't compare to Jewish corpses stacked like cordwood.
To their credit, a couple of DUmmies are trying to point that out, but when humiliating Republicans is at stake, even the *******ed ****ing Holocaust isn't off limits.
Nice site, David "Skinner" Allen.
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Well I just got my last post in. I doubt I'll still have an account there when I get home tonight.
I dunno djones...you didn't break any rules as far as I can see!
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Sorry, Banned; I wanted to put yours on top of mine, because yours is better, but the software says they have to be merged in chronological order.
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This from the same gang of numbnuts who piss themselves every time the WTC collapse is shown on TV or a van with pictures of aborted fetuses rolls through town.
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Hey looky here, our super secret agent is only doing it because it runs in the family. :rotf: This has to be TIT's new screenname.
formercia (1000+ posts) Fri May-01-09 09:40 AM
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13. My father was at Dachau
He was part of a lead recon element for the 45th Division. He was OSS and had been in combat since North Africa. He had seen a lot of bad things up to then, but the camps were too much for even him.
He told me they dragged the SS out of the barracks and shot them on the spot. The figures vary but he told me his unit shot 175. They were just little fish.
It's ironic that some of the big fish later went to work for the CIA.
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Fascists and Communists and Socialists are nearly identical leftwing philosophies. Nothing conservative about them
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Hey looky here, our super secret agent is only doing it because it runs in the family. :rotf: This has to be TIT's new screenname.
Please tell me not even primitives are DUmb enough to believe this shit!
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Hey looky here, our super secret agent is only doing it because it runs in the family. :rotf: This has to be TIT's new screenname.
He's actually better than TIT! From what I've read about that liberation that sounds plausible. His father being there is probably a lie!
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I dunno djones...you didn't break any rules as far as I can see!
Apparently denying that US Troops routinely torture Iraqi's is a bannable offense.
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Well I just got my last post in. I doubt I'll still have an account there when I get home tonight.
You're dealing with idiots who make up what they want to believe and who say things on-line they wouldn't dare say to your face. Why bother? If you do get canned, consider it a honor to be away from such unAmerican trash who'll invent lies to tell themselves and make up evidence for things that don't exist.
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You're dealing with idiots who make up what they want to believe and who say things on-line they wouldn't dare say to your face. Why bother? If you do get canned, consider it a honor to be away from such unAmerican trash who'll invent lies to tell themselves and make up evidence for things that don't exist.
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Exactly. I'd consider it a badge of honor to be banned there after moling a while.
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I probably shouldn't have read that thread. What a bunch of retarded jackasses. These people are the reason for all the warning labels we have these days.
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I probably shouldn't have read that thread. What a bunch of retarded jackasses. These people are the reason for all the warning labels we have these days.
Actually, these people are the result of all the warning labels....
Years ago, they would have killed themselves off before they reproduced....
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Natural Selection is a necessary process. Trying to prevent it is what we have now. It was better before when the nuts got weeded out, for being nuts. Now we just coddle the nuts through life. Aiyiyiy!