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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: MrsSmith on April 18, 2009, 04:20:43 PM
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-18-09 11:29 AM
Original message (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5482820)
Why are most (if not all) American Terrorists RIGHT WINGERS?
Timothy McVeigh...The Bath Disaster...All those shooters who went on rampages lately...the Tennessee Church Shooter...
I can think of only one home grown terrorist attack that could even be remotely tied to the left wing, and that was the Wall Street bombing at the turn of the century (done by an Anarchist - which to me seems more like extreme Rightwingnuttery than anything)
Hell, even the Symbianese Liberation Army was more hopped on crazy than ideology
So why are we tolerating this kind of hate ideology today?
Other than the obvious fact that all the shooters were not right-wing...
Raspberry (2 posts) Sat Apr-18-09 11:52 AM
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20. Well,
there was quite a bit of left-wing violence in the 60's and 70's. I remember a bombing on the U. of Wisconsin campus. A math teacher or something died. The Weather Underground accidentally blew up a bunch of their own people, and had planned to kill a lot of others.
Sorry, I don't think the right-wing has a monopoly on terrorism.
Raspberry won't last long. Truth cannot be tolerated...
The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-18-09 12:19 PM
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43. I don't think the rw extremists are different than the lw ones
Both want to control the lives of others through laws to an absurd level and essentially want less diversity and more power to shape the world into their version of utopia.
So when one says that a person who committed a terrible act is a rw I wonder how we know that since the only distinction between the two camps is which party they want to help them achieve their goals of controlling others.
I see both sides of that coin (extremists) as the enemy. And if the inference is that only those on the rw are bad and foster hate then we eventually lose because instead focusing on principles we focus on ideological labels and defending those who claim to be part of 'our' camp.
The question is not, imho, why are terrorists rw'ers, it is why do some people want nearly total control of the lives of others and how do we keep them from getting it?
Wow, that is close to actual thought!!! :o
Juche (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-18-09 03:26 PM
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61. FTR, I love that we can have intelligent discussions on these issues here
I remember reading a blurb once where a journalist said 'you do not see the kinds of in depth discussion of the issues on right wing blogs that you see on left wing blogs'. You probably aren't going to see an intelligent and serious discussion like this on stormfront or freerepublic. Yay us
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: You'd have to read the thread to appreciate the humor on this response. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Oh my.
The travesty primitive as usual is thinking things only a fifth of the way through.
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-18-09 11:29 AM
Original message
Why are most (if not all) American Terrorists RIGHT WINGERS?
Timothy McVeigh...The Bath Disaster...All those shooters who went on rampages lately...the Tennessee Church Shooter...
Just whose book was found in the Unabomber's cabin, again? I seem to remember it was Earth In The Balance by one "Albert Gore, Jr."
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William Ayers? ALF, ELF and the other ecoterrorist groups don't count?
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How 'bout old Lee Harvey Oswald? He first went to Cuba, then to Russia, then came home to shoot a democrat president because.....who knows why really ..... probably because he was to right wing.
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William Ayers? ALF, ELF and the other ecoterrorist groups don't count?
No.
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If a person was to commit a terrorist attack and claimed that it was because of a conservative belief I would challenge that,prove it wasn`t and condemn the person for doing it.
Libs simply change the definitions so in their minds it isn`t so.
That is how we are different.
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-18-09 12:14 PM
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40. The Unabomber was a left wing extremiest
Theodore Kaczynski was an example of perhaps the most extreme leftism out there.
Taverner (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-18-09 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. He was a serial killer though
Not sure the two equate - maybe they do?
"We will define terrorism to mean whatever we want it to mean, which is, it is only right-wing Republican-voting fundies are terrorists."
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How about this little gem:
I would consider AL Qaeda a right wing terror organization since they are motivated by religious fundamentalism, xenophobia and a fear of social change.
:rotf:
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Someone give Buzzclik some recognition. He's fighting the good fight there pointing out that Leftists can be terrorists to.
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"We will define terrorism to mean whatever we want it to mean, which is, it is only right-wing Republican-voting fundies are terrorists."
Same as they do with "hate" and "racisim" ...I guess you can add "crime" into that mix too. :whatever:
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I see they are trying this again, as the last thread about this fell flat on its ass. :mental:
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Wait a minute. American terrorists can not be right wingers. By definition, a terrorist is trying to hurt the country. We all know that the DUmmies support anything that hurts the USA, therefore, they would support and like the terrorists, so the terrorists can not be right wingers, because the DUmmies hate right wingers. Trying to use DUmmie logic is confusing and painful.
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William Ayers? ALF, ELF and the other ecoterrorist groups don't count?
Neither to the Columbine killers.
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Poor Little Goons. All they have to cling to is Timothy McVeigh.
Speaking of that McVeigh era, wasn't the Clinton justice department a bonafide terrorist organization? They sure murdered a lot of Americans. They even stormed the home of a private citizen in the middle of the night and kidnapped a 6 year old boy. I say that was another time of left-wing terrorism on steroids.
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Poor Little Goons. All they have to cling to is Timothy McVeigh.
Speaking of that McVeigh era, wasn't the Clinton justice department a bonafide terrorist organization? They sure murdered a lot of Americans. They even stormed the home of a private citizen in the middle of the night and kidnapped a 6 year old boy. I say that was another time of left-wing terrorism on steroids.
And some of the same terrorists are running the Justice Department today.
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And some of the same terrorists are running the Justice Department today.
Ummmm, I am confused.
How come the dumb lady who wrote the report about potential terrorists and targeted all the right wing folks has issued a decree that we cannot call it the war on terror, cannot refer to our enemies as terrorists, yet she can label those with different political beliefs as terrorists?
Of course all right wingers are terrorists, that is because the speech police in the Department of Homeland Security will not let anyone else be called by that name. If we were to call Al Queida terrorists or call it the war on terror, by her definition we are under suspicion and are potential terrorists...if you get my drift.
Dumb gets even dumber if you ask me,
regars,
5412
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Ummmm, I am confused.
How come the dumb lady who wrote the report about potential terrorists and targeted all the right wing folks has issued a decree that we cannot call it the war on terror, cannot refer to our enemies as terrorists, yet she can label those with different political beliefs as terrorists?
Of course all right wingers are terrorists, that is because the speech police in the Department of Homeland Security will not let anyone else be called by that name. If we were to call Al Queida terrorists or call it the war on terror, by her definition we are under suspicion and are potential terrorists...if you get my drift.
Dumb gets even dumber if you ask me,
regars,
5412
And we'd be "racist," too. ::)
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Poor Little Goons. All they have to cling to is Timothy McVeigh.
Speaking of that McVeigh era, wasn't the Clinton justice department a bonafide terrorist organization? They sure murdered a lot of Americans. They even stormed the home of a private citizen in the middle of the night and kidnapped a 6 year old boy. I say that was another time of left-wing terrorism on steroids.
Now Undies, you know it's not just McVeigh. The DHS just released a brand spanking new report warning every single one of us of the potential terrorist leanings of all military members. Evidently putting oneself in harms way to protect the folks back home is no longer proof of one's patriotism or love of country. I'm thrilled beyond belief that if my son decides to retire from the Marine Corps during the Obama administration they'll still be keeping a sharp eye on him. It's refreshing to know one's government is looking after it's citizens. It's ironic, really because for all the attention the Obama administration is lavishing on the military (current and retired) the Marines I talk to don't seem that fond of him.
Cindie
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Now Undies, you know it's not just McVeigh. The DHS just released a brand spanking new report warning every single one of us of the potential terrorist leanings of all military members. Evidently putting oneself in harms way to protect the folks back home is no longer proof of one's patriotism or love of country. I'm thrilled beyond belief that if my son decides to retire from the Marine Corps during the Obama administration they'll still be keeping a sharp eye on him. It's refreshing to know one's government is looking after it's citizens. It's ironic, really because for all the attention the Obama administration is lavishing on the military (current and retired) the Marines I talk to don't seem that fond of him.
Cindie
Ya know, this admission by DHS, that they consider vets to be potential terrorists, is to lay the groundwork for their "civilian security force that's as well-armed as the military," IMO. What better way to justify the creation of said brown- and black-shirted thug force than to cast aspersions on all the military?
Or has this realization hit others, and been reported before?
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Funny, I never knew Pol Pot and Hitler were right wingers! I learn something new everytime I take a trip over there. Wow. And Rush Limpballs is their leader, or something. I was also surprised to learn that the KKK was a right wing organization, who knew? :confused:
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Funny, I never knew Pol Pot and Hitler were right wingers! I learn something new everytime I take a trip over there. Wow. And Rush Limpballs is their leader, or something. I was also surprised to learn that the KKK was a right wing organization, who knew? :confused:
Some of them think Pres. O is right wing... :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Some of them think Pres. O is right wing... :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Methinks you're being overly generous, referring to whatever it is they do over there on the island as "thought", Mrs. S.
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Now won't this just be a kick in the balls for the DUmbasses. First American on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorist list is... a left winger ALF type.
Link
(http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_domestic_terrorist;_ylt=AoglYjZ2F2jQ5_CRPzkVi5KyFz4D)
WASHINGTON – For the first time, an accused domestic terrorist is being added to the FBI's list of "Most Wanted" terror suspects.
Daniel Andreas San Diego, a 31-year-old computer specialist from Berkeley, Calif., is wanted for the 2003 bombings of two corporate offices in California.
Authorities describe San Diego as an animal rights activist who turned to bomb attacks and say he has tattoo that proclaims, "It only takes a spark."
A law enforcement official said the FBI was to announce Tuesday that San Diego was being added to the "Most Wanted" terrorist list. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the announcement ahead of time.
San Diego would be the 24th person on the list, and the only domestic terror suspect.
FBI spokesman Richard Kolko declined to comment on the pending announcement.
The move to add a domestic, left-wing terrorist to the list comes only days after the Obama administration was criticized for internal reports suggesting some military veterans could be susceptible to right-wing extremist recruiters or commit lone acts of violence. That prompted angry reactions from some lawmakers and veterans groups.
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Now won't this just be a kick in the balls for the DUmbasses. First American on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorist list is... a left winger ALF type.
Link
(http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_domestic_terrorist;_ylt=AoglYjZ2F2jQ5_CRPzkVi5KyFz4D)
I just saw that on the news and thought of this thread.
Somebody with a mole should go revive it at the DUmp. :rotf: