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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: miskie on April 10, 2009, 05:37:19 PM
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An exercise in Denial - Joe Fields asks a simple question, (link here (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5429614)) then he and other primitives deny every answer given.
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-10-09 04:07 PM
Original message
Have any mass murderers been caught with left wing books? I don't think so.
When are we going to get serious about holding people like Limbaugh, Savage, Beck, Hannity responsible for their hate messages, in the form of their daily propaganda radio exercises and hate books that they publish?
Seriously, do you see any mass murderers holding "left wing" material?
UhOh field too wide -- Must narrow it..
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-10-09 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #5
15. I should have been more specific. I'm talking about the recent(this year)
rash of mass murders. Have any of these criminals been caught with books written by Jon Stewart, or any other lefty?
Oregone (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-10-09 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Hey, how about Jim Jones?
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 04:52 PM by Oregone
Wasn't he a leftie?
on edit: meant to post to OP
inserting fingers in ears in 3..2...
mitchum (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-10-09 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Yes,but I am very content with the public remembering him as a religious nut
LALALALALALALALALA! I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALALALALA!!
Democracyinkind (335 posts) Fri Apr-10-09 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #19
22. I know, I know. Sorry that I idealize the concept of left. Can't bring myself to see
Jones or Stalin as a leftie.
I suppose conservatives don't hold Hitler in high esteem either.
Well, you know what I mean.
deflect to the conservatives.. Only thing is Hitler isn't one of ours.
AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-10-09 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. Stalin was not a leftie. He was a dictator.
LALALALALALALA!!!
corruptmewithpower (312 posts) Fri Apr-10-09 05:01 PM
Response to Original message
18. Che, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Tito, Mao . . . all read left wing books.
ALERT!!!ALERT!!!FREEEEEEEEPEEEEEERRRRRR!!!!!
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-10-09 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. Please excuse me. I was not alluding to dictators or guerrilla leaders.
I was relating to the current wave of violent gun killings in the U.S.
Were any of the perpetrators carrying any Jon Stewart books or books from any other left wing talk show host?
And a final moving of the goalposts.. Typical.Liberal.Behavior.
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Good Find.
A perfect example of the mental gymnastics that the left are required to go through in order to justify their world view.
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David Berkowitz A.K.A. Son Of Sam
Robert Berdella killed gay men after having sex with them
Authur Gary Bishop
William Bonin
Jerry Brudos
Ted Bundy
James Clifford Carson (aka Michael Bear Carson) and Susan Barnes Carson
Richard Chase
Andrew Cunanan
Charles Cullen
Jeffrey Dahmer
John Wayne Gacy
Ed Gein
Kristen Gilbert
Harvey Glatman
Donald Harvey
Genene Jones
Patrick Kearney
Randy Kraft
John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo
Herbert Mullin
Richard Ramirez
John Edward Robinson
Danny Rolling
Efren Saldivar
Michael Swango
Randall Woodfield
Theodore Kaczynski
Liberal terrorists
ELF
PETA
SLA
Weathermen
Black Panthers
Manson Family
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wartrace (920 posts) Fri Apr-10-09 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
25. I was unaware that the recent killers had been "caught" with right wing books.
That cop killer in Pittsburgh? Do you have a link to this information? Just curious to see if there is any proof to the statement that the above right wing pundits are responsible for these shootings. Surely Jiverly up in New York wasn't a listener was he? He had trouble with the English language.
It would be a shame to discover that someone was exploiting these murders in order to silence speech they don't care for.
Alert !!! Alert !!!!
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Yeah, all murderers and dictators are "RightWingers" ,never anyone on the left. :whatever:
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Response to Original message
18. Che, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Tito, Mao . . . all read left wing books.
Those were some of the first names I thought of after having read the original question.
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David Berkowitz A.K.A. Son Of Sam
Robert Berdella killed gay men after having sex with them
Authur Gary Bishop
William Bonin
Jerry Brudos
Ted Bundy
James Clifford Carson (aka Michael Bear Carson) and Susan Barnes Carson
Richard Chase
Andrew Cunanan
Charles Cullen
Jeffrey Dahmer
John Wayne Gacy
Ed Gein
Kristen Gilbert
Harvey Glatman
Donald Harvey
Genene Jones
Patrick Kearney
Randy Kraft
John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo
Herbert Mullin
Richard Ramirez
John Edward Robinson
Danny Rolling
Efren Saldivar
Michael Swango
Randall Woodfield
Theodore Kaczynski
Liberal terrorists
ELF
PETA
SLA
Weathermen
Black Panthers
Manson Family
Hi-5. That's a hell of a list. Well done.
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I seem to remember the name Bill Ayers was in the news recently.
Can anybody recall what for?
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I seem to remember the name Bill Ayers was in the news recently.
Can anybody recall what for?
Being an educational advisor to Obama??
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Oh for ****S SAKE! just what in the world does this have to do with the cost of tea in China???
Just how much into the Twilight Zone do you have to be to even think of this shit?
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How about dictators? Many of them were on the left.
Adolf Hitler
Benito Mussolini
Joseph Stalin
Pol Pot
Mao Zedong
Saddam Hussein
Kim Il-Sung
Kim Jong-Il
Hugo Chavez
Vladimir Lenin
Fidel Castro
Mengistu Haile Mariam
Josip Broz Tito
Salvador Allende
Juan Peron
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David Berkowitz A.K.A. Son Of Sam
Robert Berdella killed gay men after having sex with them
Authur Gary Bishop
William Bonin
Jerry Brudos
Ted Bundy
James Clifford Carson (aka Michael Bear Carson) and Susan Barnes Carson
Richard Chase
Andrew Cunanan
Charles Cullen
Jeffrey Dahmer
John Wayne Gacy
Ed Gein
Kristen Gilbert
Harvey Glatman
Donald Harvey
Genene Jones
Patrick Kearney
Randy Kraft
John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo
Herbert Mullin
Richard Ramirez
John Edward Robinson
Danny Rolling
Efren Saldivar
Michael Swango
Randall Woodfield
Theodore Kaczynski
Liberal terrorists
ELF
PETA
SLA
Weathermen
Black Panthers
Manson Family
Don't forget the Zodiac Killer, Jim Jones, and Mark Essex (went on a killing spree in New Orleans in 1973).
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-10-09 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. Calm down. No one is talking about silencing critics.
Based on history and human nature, it's impossible to deny that right wing, violent talk radio has influenced people to commit horrific acts. No one is talking about banning free speech-how did you extrapolate that from a simple, historical fact that right-wing rhetoric has caused genocide in Rwanda and Nazi Germany? It seems that you think libruls are all about PC speech and all that crap. I wonder where you got that idea?
No one is talking about silencing critics.
Somehow, I missed this memo. And the listing of those people who have commited "horrific acts" after being "influenced" by that right wing, violent talk radio.
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I seem to remember the name Bill Ayers was in the news recently.
Can anybody recall what for?
Canada would not allow him off the plane as they consider him a terrorist. He was sent back to the US who welcomed him with open arms.
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Good Find.
A perfect example of the mental gymnastics that the left are required to go through in order to justify their world view.
If for the sake of arguement someone shot up a church carrying a copy of some lib book they would....
Declare the author not a leftist so it didn`t count.
Say that Christians were the ones that inspired hate so what did they expect.
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If for the sake of arguement someone shot up a church carrying a copy of some lib book they would....
Declare the author not a leftist so it didn`t count.
Say that Christians were the ones that inspired hate so what did they expect.
No one would know if that ever happened because the MSM would never let it be known that a lunatic had a pocket copy of Saul Alinski's book or some other such drivel on them at the time they were killed.
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No one would know if that ever happened because the MSM would never let it be known that a lunatic had a pocket copy of The Audacity of Hope or some other such drivel on them at the time they were killed.
:)
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Has anyone mentioned the Unibomber yet?
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Yes, duh.
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Hypocrisy, thy name is liberal:
TEMPE, ARIZONA - Arizona State University President Michael Crow is saying that ASU will "honor President Obama in every way" just two days after student journalist Adam Sneed broke the story that Arizona State University (ASU) would not be conferring the customary honorary degree on President Barack Obama when he gives the commencement speech in May.
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Faculty and staff at ASU have taken a lot of heat over this issue. Laurie Chassin co-chairs the ASU Honorary Degree Committee along with Christine Wilkinson, but she is on sabbatical this year and is not involved in this year's evaluations. According to a source within the administration, she reportedly received death threats after this story hit national news on Thursday. An ASU spokesperson said they started receiving hate-email within minutes after the story was published on Huffington Post. Crow's office was barraged with so many calls that many went straight to voice mail.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dawn-teo/asu-faculty-receive-threa_b_185801.html
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No one would know if that ever happened because the MSM would never let it be known that a lunatic had a pocket copy of Saul Alinski's book or some other such drivel on them at the time they were killed.
Spot on and 100% true.
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Not a mass murder but still a real s*#t head is Fred Phelps. He is a registered dim and even ran for office. They like to sweep him under the rug as well.
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hELL, THE BIG MASS MURDERS were all "liberals" , Stalin killed tens of millions, as did Mao. Pol Pot was a liberal too. And Ho Chi Mhin too.
They WROTE THE BOOKS didn't they?
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Not a mass murder but still a real s*#t head is Fred Phelps. He is a registered dim and even ran for office. They like to sweep him under the rug as well.
Yes, Fred Phelps is a Dem and was a friend with Al Gore. He is a troop and America hating scumbag. He is no different from Adolf Hitler, Osama bin Laden, Jim Jones, and Charles Manson. I think he is a closted homosexual and adulterer. Hey may played a role in Debbie Valgos's death.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=10290387
http://www.blank.org/addict/chapter7.html
http://www.blank.org/addict/chapter8.html
Also, don't forget Michael Crook. He is also a troop and America hating scumbag with a blog. He is just as bad as Fred Phelps.
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Has anyone mentioned the Unibomber yet?
Theodore Kaczynski is the Unabomber.
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Yes, Fred Phelps is a Dem and was a friend with Al Gore. He is a troop and America hating scumbag. He is no different from Adolf Hitler, Osama bin Laden, Jim Jones, and Charles Manson. I think he is a closted homosexual and adulterer. Hey may played a role in Debbie Valgos's death.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=10290387
http://www.blank.org/addict/chapter7.html
http://www.blank.org/addict/chapter8.html
Also, don't forget Michael Crook. He is also a troop and America hating scumbag with a blog. He is just as bad as Fred Phelps.
I have had some run ins with both of them. Sean Hannity was right to call the latter pond scum. He is a regular(or at least was) poster on stormfront.
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I have had some run ins with both of them. Sean Hannity was right to call the latter pond scum. He is a regular(or at least was) poster on stormfront.
:bow:
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I see that someone got to Ted Kaczynski, whose brother lives 15-20 miles from me. I believe that the tome that he had in his shack was Al Gore's Earth In The Balance. If that isn't left-wing, I don't know what is.
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Theodore Kaczynski is the Unabomber.
Yeah, I finally went and read the thread, somebody DID mention him, but the op dismissed Ted from the list because he didn't kill this year.
So the gist of the thread to disqualify liberals and label all conservatives as potential killers and blame Conservative talk shows for incitement to kill.
This ONE poster got it right.
wartrace (920 posts) Fri Apr-10-09 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
25. I was unaware that the recent killers had been "caught" with right wing books.
--snip--
It would be a shame to discover that someone was exploiting these murders in order to silence speech they don't care for.
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This ONE poster got it right.
wartrace (920 posts) Fri Apr-10-09 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
25. I was unaware that the recent killers had been "caught" with right wing books.
--snip--
It would be a shame to discover that someone was exploiting these murders in order to silence speech they don't care for.
Even a blind squirrel will find a nut every now and then....
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I have had some run ins with both of them. Sean Hannity was right to call the latter pond scum. He is a regular(or at least was) poster on stormfront.
Sorry to hear that you had a run-in with two rotten scumbags of the lowest denominator. Michael Crook was banned from Stormfront years ago after he tried to look for young woman to have a relationship with, while he was married with a child. He has six children, mostly from wedlock, some going as early as in middle school. He is also an admirer of Fred Phelps and WBC.
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Sorry to hear that you had a run-in with two rotten scumbags of the lowest denominator. Michael Crook was banned from Stormfront years ago after he tried to look for young woman to have a relationship with, while he was married with a child. He has six children, mostly from wedlock, some going as early as in middle school. He is also an admirer of Fred Phelps and WBC.
In our last run in he also claimed that he was gay.
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Should we be scared, that people are on here and Stormfront? :o
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historical fact that right-wing rhetoric has caused genocide in Rwanda and Nazi Germany?
wtf?
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In our last run in he also claimed that he was gay.
Yes, I have heard that claim he was gay and hates gays as much as he hates America and the military. Yet, he admires Fred Phelps. :mental: Michael Crook is one of the most hated person besides Osama bin Laden, Fred Phelps, Bernard Madoff, and Lori Drew.
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Should we be scared, that people are on here and Stormfront? :o
I would not be surprised if some DUmmies do post at Stormfront.
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wtf?
That's what happens when DUmmies write the history books and educate the children.
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didn't the unibomber have books by Al Gore?
if the Oakland cop killer could read I bet he'd have Obama's books
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More to the point, how many leftist would-be mass murderers - you know who I'm talking about; the ones who want to exterminate all opposition to Lord Zero by any saadistic means necessary - are currently walking around with EBT cards that seem to be permamently attached to my wallet? Hmmm?