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Title: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: franksolich on April 07, 2009, 05:33:21 AM
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Actually, there's hope for this primitive, and one of course wishes her well.

Unlike the gigantic primitive in Last Vegas, this primitive actually seems to be taking charge of some things in her own life, rather than, unlike the gigantic primitive in Last Vegas, "demanding" that physicians and nurses and bus drivers do something about his problem.

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Heddi  (1000+ posts)      Mon Apr-06-09 06:56 AM
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I am obese. I have always been obese. I am tired of being obese

33 year old female. Have gone through the gammut throughout my life of having baby fat, being pudgy, being chunky, being a little overweight....ay yi yi.

I'm 33, 5'3 and 200 lbs.

I don't eat enormous calories. I eat alot of vegetarian, vegetable and starch based foods like steamed veggies and rice or cous-cous, etc.

Doctor says (and I know) that I need to excersise...when? I'm an RN and I work 12 hour nights, so i get home at 8am go to bed up at 4 shower dinner out the door at 6 to be at work at 7. On my days off there's only so much time to do all the things I have to get done to run a normal household.

For a while hubby and I were walking 12+ miles a day, every day for weeks on end (this was before I was an RN). and I never saw ONE. POUND. GONE.

We never eat fast food...maybe subway without mayo or cheese but I don't even know the last time I had french fries or a hamburger. I don't drink sodas....all of the BINGO bad foods for you I really don't eat. Again, lotsa veggies and low-fat low calorie stuff but I'm not trying to restrict myself, I don't mind the taste of these things. Thankfully I have a trader joe's nearby so I can get tasty low fat low calorie non processed foods for relatively cheaply.

I don't know what to do with myself anymore. When my husband and I started dating I was 21 and wore maybe a size 12 or so, no more than 140 lbs. NOw I'm 200lbs (I starve for a few days if I get above 200 because I feel once I Get above it I'll never get below it) and a size 16 and that's starting to feel tight.

This is stupid but I can't even do an EATING DISORDER right for god's sake. I think bulimia is a waste of money and I love eating too much to be anorexic.

I do sometimes have eating binges where I will just stuff myself stupid for no reason...boredom mostly.

Where do I even start? I feel sometimes like I make excuses for not being more active but then I realize that I really do not have the time to be more active. Plus I'm walking/running around 12+ hours a night at the hospital, and I know that doesn't "count" but surely it "counts" more than if I had a sedentary office job, right?

I'm so depressed about it. I've talked to my Doctor. He doesn't listen, says "exercise for 6 months then we'll talk" when I tell him I don't have time to exercise he gives me this 'Oh well I'm a doctor and *I* have time to exercise" big deal, he also doesn' have to work the hours I do, HAVE to work, you know?

I have big boobs and it hurts to do any kind of running, and I've never been a runner. Can't find a 44DDD sports bra that even helps and I don't know......I feel like everyone tells me what I NEED to do but I haven't found anyone who can tell me what I SHOULD BE DOING to get to where I need to be....

franksolich is no medical professional, but franksolich suspects that if she changed her working hours to something more reasonable, she might lost much of that excess weight.  Night work does that, adds on the fat.  I see it all the time.

Some people have a habit of thinking they "have" to work nights, because of the higher pay and they have to pay bills, but one has to make a choice here.  Life does not, really, present one with a "good" choice and a "bad" choice; life more frequently presents one with a "bad" choice and a "worse" choice.

If I were this primitive, I would go with the "bad" choice, giving up the extra pay even if it causes financial problems; the "bad" choice is preferable to all the calamities that befall one when overextended.

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Droopy  (1000+ posts)      Mon Apr-06-09 10:49 AM
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1. Sounds like your doctor should do some blood work

Check for an inactive thyroid, blood sugar, cholesterol, stuff like that. I'm certainly not a medical expert, but it seems to me that if you are honestly trying to lose weight and can't, it should say that maybe there are some other problems that need to be checked for.

I'm doing this ---> www.mpsweightloss.com It's a little pricey but it has worked fantastically for me. The owner of the place says she can conduct everything over the phone, through e-mail, and snail mail. If you want more information let me know. It's an approach to weight loss that I haven't seen elsewhere.

But get checked for medical explanations of the problem before you try anything else. It might save you a lot of time and your health. It sounds to me like there is something more going on here than just not getting enough exercise.

One other thing: Keep a food journal. I didn't think I was consuming enough calories to be a 290 pound man before I started keeping a food journal. Then I realized I was eating over 3000 calories a day. I still keep a food journal even though I'm losing weight.

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Heddi  (1000+ posts)      Mon Apr-06-09 06:12 PM
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4. done all the blood work

thyroid is perfect, blood sugar is perfect, cholesterol is a bit high but that can be brought down with exercise. ANd when I say "a bit high" I mean 2 points.....

Food journal is a good idea. I will try that starting today.

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Lisa0825  (1000+ posts)      Mon Apr-06-09 02:17 PM
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2. I don't think I like your doctor.

Can you see someone who specializes in weight loss for a second opinion? Your doctor should not be so dismissive of your concern.

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The empressof all   (1000+ posts)        Mon Apr-06-09 04:56 PM
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3. Oh it sucks doesn't it

You really need to get the blood work done especially for your thyroid. If everything checks out normally you may just need to bite the bullet and embrace a food plan. I'm convinced that it's not only the calories you consume but what kinds of foods and how often.

I was unable to lose weight on a typical calorie restricted diet and had only minimal success with highly low carb diets. I am losing (although slowly) with a low glycemic load plan and by eating small meals 6 to 8 times a day. Who knows why this is working for me better than the Zone or Weight Watchers with the same calories. It took years of trial and error but the weight is now coming off.

It's hard and I really wish I could eat like everyone else. You need to try a few different plans and suck it up and do it.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: Carl on April 07, 2009, 06:11:03 AM
The one thing that struck me is that every other sentence was an excuse of some kind as to why she CAN`T do something.
It is pretty easy to accomplish nothing if that is all you try to do.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on April 07, 2009, 06:22:17 AM
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Heddi  (1000+ posts)      Mon Apr-06-09 06:56 AM
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I am obese. I have always been obese. I am tired of being obese

33 year old female. Have gone through the gammut throughout my life of having baby fat, being pudgy, being chunky, being a little overweight....ay yi yi.

I'm 33, 5'3 and 200 lbs.

I don't eat enormous calories. I eat alot of vegetarian, vegetable and starch based foods like steamed veggies and rice or cous-cous, etc.

Doctor says (and I know) that I need to excersise...when? I'm an RN and I work 12 hour nights, so i get home at 8am go to bed up at 4 shower dinner out the door at 6 to be at work at 7. On my days off there's only so much time to do all the things I have to get done to run a normal household.

For a while hubby and I were walking 12+ miles a day, every day for weeks on end (this was before I was an RN). and I never saw ONE. POUND. GONE.

We never eat fast food...maybe subway without mayo or cheese but I don't even know the last time I had french fries or a hamburger. I don't drink sodas....all of the BINGO bad foods for you I really don't eat. Again, lotsa veggies and low-fat low calorie stuff but I'm not trying to restrict myself, I don't mind the taste of these things. Thankfully I have a trader joe's nearby so I can get tasty low fat low calorie non processed foods for relatively cheaply.

I don't know what to do with myself anymore. When my husband and I started dating I was 21 and wore maybe a size 12 or so, no more than 140 lbs. NOw I'm 200lbs (I starve for a few days if I get above 200 because I feel once I Get above it I'll never get below it) and a size 16 and that's starting to feel tight.

This is stupid but I can't even do an EATING DISORDER right for god's sake. I think bulimia is a waste of money and I love eating too much to be anorexic.

I do sometimes have eating binges where I will just stuff myself stupid for no reason...boredom mostly.

Where do I even start? I feel sometimes like I make excuses for not being more active but then I realize that I really do not have the time to be more active. Plus I'm walking/running around 12+ hours a night at the hospital, and I know that doesn't "count" but surely it "counts" more than if I had a sedentary office job, right?

I'm so depressed about it. I've talked to my Doctor. He doesn't listen, says "exercise for 6 months then we'll talk" when I tell him I don't have time to exercise he gives me this 'Oh well I'm a doctor and *I* have time to exercise" big deal, he also doesn' have to work the hours I do, HAVE to work, you know?

I have big boobs and it hurts to do any kind of running, and I've never been a runner. Can't find a 44DDD sports bra that even helps and I don't know......I feel like everyone tells me what I NEED to do but I haven't found anyone who can tell me what I SHOULD BE DOING to get to where I need to be....
The bolded above is why she can't lose weight! Plus...Don't give me this "I don't have time" crap! I work 40 to 50 hours a week and usually get to the gym at least four times a week for 2+ hours! I have a feeling these eating binges probably go on for weeks at a time! Also...If you over eat things like vegetables and starches and don't move you will gain weight! For some reason people think they can eat enormous amounts of vegetables and not gain anything! Vegetables atill have caloric content!
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: Taxman on April 07, 2009, 07:36:05 AM
I work a ton of hours and still find the time to exercise.  It is a matter of willpower.  If I didn't exercise and keep myself in shape I would be a big lardass instead of the statuesque stud that I am.   :-)
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: Tantal on April 07, 2009, 08:44:24 AM
I work 12's too. I take my actual lunch break at L.A. Fitness, then get Subway without checking out on the radio and eat it in the car.....usually choking it down on the way to another call. Sounds like the Messiah failed to follow through on his campaign promise of "equal bodyfat percentage for all" regardless of diet of lifestyle. The government really should do something about these DUmmies eating so much. :whatever:
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: Celtic Rose on April 07, 2009, 09:44:59 AM
Weight loss is difficult, and I understand disliking exercise, but even little bits of exercise can add up.  A 15 minute walk in the morning and in the even is 30 minutes of walking a day.  Never take an elevator.  Find some sort of workout class that you enjoy, such as yoga, dancing, karate, and make a commitment to do it at least twice a week for a month. Tell yourself that you need to do 30 minutes of some sort of activity before you spend 30 minutes reading, on the computer, or in front of the TV.  Spend the money on a really quality sports bra, even if you have to special order it.  They do make larger sports bras, you just need to look harder.  Look for one with separate cups for better support.  I'm a 36 DD and having a good sports bra really does make a huge different.

 A food journal is really helpful, it makes you face up to what you are actually eating.  Check serving sizes, a lot of foods, especially convenience foods, have smaller serving sizes than you might think.  Any and all eating out will encourage you to eat more calories, so cook your own food as much as possible.  Actually drink 8 to 10 glasses of water a day, it will help you to snack less.  Have plenty of fruit and veggies easily available, and just don't buy junk food for awhile.

I lost 40 pounds about 2 years ago, and while I would like to lose more, I don't look or feel huge any more.  It is hard, it does take sacrifice, but it is so worth it! I wish her the best of luck. 
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: diesel driver on April 07, 2009, 10:29:14 AM
About 7 years ago, my first wife of 22 years left me for a long-haired looser she met at work.  I lost 50 pounds in 60 days, mainly because I didn't feel like eating, or even living for that matter.  I went from 235 pounds to 185, and on my 6'2" frame, I looked like a 3rd world refugee at that weight.

Today, I'm back to 240, have a FABULOUS wife, and now I need to loose a few pounds because of health concerns.  All blood work checks out, except for my triglycerides which should be less than 150, mine are 560!

Even though I work 2 jobs, averaging between 8-14 hours/day, I still find time to work on the side doing auto repairs and home improvement, and walk a few miles 2-3 times a week.

I've lost 5 pounds in the last 2 months.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: AllosaursRus on April 07, 2009, 10:38:19 AM
Myself, I have never had a weight problem. I can eat like a horse and never gain weight. I've weighed 205 for four decades.

"Toots" hates it! She's a little heavy but not what you would call obese. We both like to eat, especially during barbecue season. She works her ass off in the yard damn near every day, guess that's how she keeps her weight down.

She's got a pair of 36DD's. I'd rather she was a little heavy than have her lose my playmates!
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: MaryAnn on April 07, 2009, 11:27:22 AM
I think I'm something of an expert on this,having lost 60 lbs. for my son's wedding last year.

First of all, guys really shouldn't judge women's weight loss efforts. EVER. I think about the old "Cathy" cartoon, where she and her boyfriend go on diets, and after a week he has lost 25 pounds by skipping desserts. Men's and women's physiologies are different. We gain and lose weight differently. It is (usually) much, much harder for women to lose weight than men.

As for exercise, I assume she gets plenty of exercise on the job. She must burn lots of calories being on her feet all day every day. The problem is much more likely to be what she is eating, and in what quantities.

I joined Weight Watchers. The program components include 1) a food plan; 2) exercise; 3) group support. Part of the food plan includes journaling, including amounts of food.

If I could still post on DU I'd probably tell this primitive to journal EVERYTHING she eats, and to find a diet buddy for mutual support. It is really helpful to have a once-weekly weigh-in, and to feel accountable to someone else for how you have done.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: Vagabond on April 07, 2009, 11:50:35 AM
I think running really takes weight off of women and men the best.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: delilahmused on April 07, 2009, 12:18:46 PM
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Doctor says (and I know) that I need to excersise...when? I'm an RN and I work 12 hour nights, so i get home at 8am go to bed up at 4 shower dinner out the door at 6 to be at work at 7. On my days off there's only so much time to do all the things I have to get done to run a normal household.

This is an excuse. She can make them all day long but inside she knows it's bullshit. It's a matter of priorities. If it was really important she'd find a way. What does she do from 4 to 6 that she can't squeeze 10 to 15 minutes on a treadmill or stationary bike? Interval training and TABATA take only 10 minutes. Everyone can find 10 minutes. Instead of going to bed at 8 she could do another 10 to 15 minutes of aerobics and/or a weight routine with a set of dumbbells. I'm sure on a nurse's salary she can afford $20.00 for a set of dumbbells. She could put ankle and wrist weights on while she's walking around her house. Muscle burns more calories than fat. Squats (and lots of them), push-ups (even girly ones...which is where I started), deadlifts, and military press and you've hit every muscle group. The more muscle she gains the more weight she'll lose. If I couldn't do weightlifting I don't know what I'd do...it's my reward for doing aerobics which I'm not so fond of. I admit I don't really understand giving up when results don't happen quickly enough. Even if you don't lose at breakneck speed at least you'll be in better shape as a fat person.

Cindie
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: jukin on April 07, 2009, 01:36:57 PM
I thought Obama would make all the fat people thin..... well at least he is working hard on that one.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: thundley4 on April 07, 2009, 01:41:55 PM
I thought Obama would make all the fat people thin..... well at least he is working hard on that one.

That's another failure to add to his list.  :fuelfire:
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: AllosaursRus on April 07, 2009, 02:38:27 PM
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If it was really important she'd find a way.

Ah! There lies the diff between conservative philosophy and liberal crutch! H5!
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: happy1ga on April 08, 2009, 12:19:40 AM
Look, don't get me wrong, even if she is a DUmmie, and is not doing the right stuff, I would feel sorry for her, because when you THINK you can't lose weight, you can't. Positive attitude needed.However, I am going to have to call BS on this post. Too many things jumped out at me. Number one: I am her height, so I can judge the weight thing pretty closely. One, she says she weighed 140 when she married, wore a size 12. Nuh uh. More like a 14-16. Then she says she weighs 200 lbs now, and wears a 16, but its getting tight. No way. When she says she wears a triple D bra 40-something, this is a total BSer. She wears more like a 22-24-26. I worked in a dept store when I was in college, so this isn't possible. As for the sports bras, they make them that big, but they are usually order only/specialty stores. I also don't buy she was walking 12 miles and didn't lose a single pound. Either she didn't walk this much, maybe did it once a month, or she did it and ate like a pig. This is assuming she doesn't have a thyoid issue or something she doesn't know about wrong with her, but she says tests are normal. Also, as noted, she has these binges. I'll bet they are near daily. I also don't buy she is eating well. None of this adds up, at all. Even being a nurse, and unless she sits at a desk all day, and she says that she doesn't, that she walks all nite, then no way. I think she is telling them how she wants them to see her, so they won't think badly of her, and, of course, will feel sorry for her.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: The Village Idiot on April 08, 2009, 01:15:11 AM
I thought Obama would make all the fat people thin..... well at least he is working hard on that one.

oh he will.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: happy1ga on April 08, 2009, 11:04:57 PM
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Quote from: jukin on April 07, 2009, 10:36:57 am
I thought Obama would make all the fat people thin..... well at least he is working hard on that one.


oh he will.

Well, we all will probably be broke as crap, so I guess unless we get on the welfare tit, we will all be too poor to buy groceries, so I can see some slimming of America coming. For our own good, of course. Daddy Government is gonna take real good care of us now.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: BamaMoose on April 09, 2009, 12:05:40 AM
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I also don't buy she was walking 12 miles and didn't lose a single pound.
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I suspect she was counting moving her foot from the gas pedal to the brake pedal as walking, while she drove to the all-you-can-eat fried buffet.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: jtyangel on April 10, 2009, 07:10:00 AM
Well being as I sounded just like her a couple of years ago, I have to say much of this is excuses...and hell, she's not even starting out as heavy as some people do. some heavier girls WISH for a size 16 to be in.

 Anyway, I agree with empress, partly it is her diet and probably how she consumes it. Vegetarian also does not mean healthy and her cholesterol and admitted high intake of starches is evidence of that.She probably doesn't expend the kind of calories to justify the carbs(mostly in the form of starches she admits) she takes in. That's #1.

Frank also has a point, although it may not be realistic for her to switch her schedule. Perhaps the husband can take over some of the household duties so when she gets up at 4 she can go workout. Plus, if she's working 12 hour days, she's likely working either a 3 or 4 workday week--that's only half the week! What about the other half? My guess is she sees exercise(right now) as work so feels like she doesn't want to do it on her 'day's off' but in order to kick some ass, she just might have to look at things differently and really go full boar during those days off to reach her weight loss goes and perhaps be extra vigilant with her diet during those days too to optomize her weight loss.

I suspect with her walking, she probably justified extra calorie intake without even realizing it: rewarding herself for all the walking which ended up being no extra calorie burn at all for her, not to mention at 33 years of age, one needs to work up to a higher intensity at some point to keep the metabolism going...that's tough since it means ever increasing things and pushing oneself to uncomfortable levels sometimes. Also, strength training...big big big key thing to as far as CONSTANT ie at rest calorie burn.

This primitive could also look into interval training: more bang for her buck. Use a bit less time, but pushing oneself intermittently to uncomfortable zones for short period of times to maximize things.

As for the boobs: excuse. I have them too...they do get smaller the more athletic you get and the more weight you lose, but they will probably still be big proportionately...Get a good sports bra and realize you aren't going to go to that kind of intensity until they are smaller and you've lost a bit of weight anyway so, worry about how and where they are flopping and by then they probably won't 'hurt' when you do up into something like plyometrics. There are also options like the elliptical machine or cycling which she could interval train on in which her boobs will not be submitted to the kind of forces they are doing athletic conditioning, running, or whatever. As I said, she's not at the kind of intensity to start anyway that flopping boobs are an issue.

sorry if this is disjointed. I hope the primitive reads this. Anything you an accomplish or want to in life is about 90 percent attitude. I'm totally convinced of this.  Hopefully, she is at that point of knowing it's time to consider doing some uncomfortable things to get what she wants out of life.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: jtyangel on April 10, 2009, 07:15:17 AM
I work a ton of hours and still find the time to exercise.  It is a matter of willpower.  If I didn't exercise and keep myself in shape I would be a big lardass instead of the statuesque stud that I am.   :-)

LOL...well a few here on CC know over the last 18 months I"ve lost quite a bit of weight and carried it through to the point I'm conditioning now more athletically. I managed to pull of summa cum laude in my degree during that time and care for my family among other obligations I have. What it has meant for me is that working out is a lot of my 'free time'. I don't watch very much tv and rarely get to see movies, but it was about a choice for me: do I want to live up to my potential or is it more important to catch the latest tv show or 2 or 3 each week. I know that isn't always an option for everyone, but once I looked into how I spent my free time, I knew I had what I needed to accomplish great things. Now, I'd rather workout then watch tv. I'd post my results, but I'm too shy that way :uhsure: :-)
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: jtyangel on April 10, 2009, 07:17:52 AM
I work 12's too. I take my actual lunch break at L.A. Fitness, then get Subway without checking out on the radio and eat it in the car.....usually choking it down on the way to another call. Sounds like the Messiah failed to follow through on his campaign promise of "equal bodyfat percentage for all" regardless of diet of lifestyle. The government really should do something about these DUmmies eating so much. :whatever:

I know a lot of professionals who do like you do, Tantal. They workout on their lunch break if that's all they got. Most seem to be in pretty good shape too. But even when they aren't working, they generally adopt an active lifestyle otherwise. Freetime activities involve some movement.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: jtyangel on April 10, 2009, 07:27:11 AM
This is an excuse. She can make them all day long but inside she knows it's bullshit. It's a matter of priorities. If it was really important she'd find a way. What does she do from 4 to 6 that she can't squeeze 10 to 15 minutes on a treadmill or stationary bike? Interval training and TABATA take only 10 minutes. Everyone can find 10 minutes. Instead of going to bed at 8 she could do another 10 to 15 minutes of aerobics and/or a weight routine with a set of dumbbells. I'm sure on a nurse's salary she can afford $20.00 for a set of dumbbells. She could put ankle and wrist weights on while she's walking around her house. Muscle burns more calories than fat. Squats (and lots of them), push-ups (even girly ones...which is where I started), deadlifts, and military press and you've hit every muscle group. The more muscle she gains the more weight she'll lose. If I couldn't do weightlifting I don't know what I'd do...it's my reward for doing aerobics which I'm not so fond of. I admit I don't really understand giving up when results don't happen quickly enough. Even if you don't lose at breakneck speed at least you'll be in better shape as a fat person.

Cindie

This is the reason I love your posts, Cindie. You are no nonsense, right to the point and 99.9 percent right in the end game! Totally agree with everything you've said here! And there is nothing like the feeling of accomplishing something. I started with 'girlie push ups' too and now can do a fair amount on my toes instead of knees, not to mention the things I can do with planks now...wow, quite a feeling of strength and accomplishment when you can do things like that!
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: Chris_ on April 10, 2009, 07:28:28 AM
Even if you just eat vegetables portion size really is key. Put a cow in a lush green pasture and see if it gets skinny.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: jtyangel on April 10, 2009, 07:38:53 AM
Look, don't get me wrong, even if she is a DUmmie, and is not doing the right stuff, I would feel sorry for her, because when you THINK you can't lose weight, you can't. Positive attitude needed.However, I am going to have to call BS on this post. Too many things jumped out at me. Number one: I am her height, so I can judge the weight thing pretty closely. One, she says she weighed 140 when she married, wore a size 12. Nuh uh. More like a 14-16. Then she says she weighs 200 lbs now, and wears a 16, but its getting tight. No way. When she says she wears a triple D bra 40-something, this is a total BSer. She wears more like a 22-24-26. I worked in a dept store when I was in college, so this isn't possible. As for the sports bras, they make them that big, but they are usually order only/specialty stores. I also don't buy she was walking 12 miles and didn't lose a single pound. Either she didn't walk this much, maybe did it once a month, or she did it and ate like a pig. This is assuming she doesn't have a thyoid issue or something she doesn't know about wrong with her, but she says tests are normal. Also, as noted, she has these binges. I'll bet they are near daily. I also don't buy she is eating well. None of this adds up, at all. Even being a nurse, and unless she sits at a desk all day, and she says that she doesn't, that she walks all nite, then no way. I think she is telling them how she wants them to see her, so they won't think badly of her, and, of course, will feel sorry for her.

No it's not bs...we all have different body types. If anything, I think it speaks to the shape she was in. She had a high body fat percentage if she was wearing a 12 at 5'3" and 140 lbs. I wear a 10 and weigh more then that and at the same height, however I have a lower body fat percentage then a lot of women at that weight. I NEVER wore a 12 at 140, even when they were considered cut smaller --never...inactive I'd be a size 10 at that weight, active I'd be an 8.

I agree she's not realistic about what she's expending versus taking in, but I don't think she's bsing on sizes. She is probably well proportioned so a very TIGHT size 16 at 200 lbs for her height sounds about right. People with apple shapes really can't judge gal with a good hourglass or pear shaped--they just will not fit into the same size at the same weight, even if they are both doing the same amount of working out. The shape makes a huge difference into what you can fit into.
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: RobJohnson on April 10, 2009, 09:27:28 AM
I can eat like a horse and never gain weight.

Bastard.  :censored: :-)

Sure, shift work is hard, you never seem to eat right, and often you are eating right before you go to bed...

But I call bullshit on this:

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For a while hubby and I were walking 12+ miles a day, every day for weeks on end (this was before I was an RN). and I never saw ONE. POUND. GONE

She must of ate 24/7....or she is lying. Walking four to five hours a day and not ever seeing one pound gone??? Of course, we all know that DUmmies lie, this should be no exception.

Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: jtyangel on April 10, 2009, 10:37:50 AM
Bastard.  :censored: :-)

Sure, shift work is hard, you never seem to eat right, and often you are eating right before you go to bed...

But I call bullshit on this:

She must of ate 24/7....or she is lying. Walking four to five hours a day and not ever seeing one pound gone??? Of course, we all know that DUmmies lie, this should be no exception.



Just remember eating and never gaining weight doesn't mean healthy insides.

BTW, good catch. I was just thinking how long it takes me to do about 4 miles and that's with some interval work in between a fast stride and it's close to an hour. Let's say she even walked the same pace, then she just admitted she exercises 3 hours a day. I'm not buying that. I don't think she has any concept of how far they really walk, but guesses based on exertion. It's really surprising when you actually note it is and how much time it would take to coverthat much ground. If that was the truth, she'd get a lot more out of group fitness in a gym for 3 hours a day, but since she said she has no time to workout, I'm calling total bs on the fact she spends 3 hours a day walking that 12 miles(which is what it would take at the pace she's likely going--probably longer).
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: delilahmused on April 10, 2009, 12:32:38 PM
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Frank also has a point, although it may not be realistic for her to switch her schedule. Perhaps the husband can take over some of the household duties so when she gets up at 4 she can go workout. Plus, if she's working 12 hour days, she's likely working either a 3 or 4 workday week--that's only half the week! What about the other half? My guess is she sees exercise(right now) as work so feels like she doesn't want to do it on her 'day's off' but in order to kick some ass, she just might have to look at things differently and really go full boar during those days off to reach her weight loss goes and perhaps be extra vigilant with her diet during those days too to optomize her weight loss.

That's why if a person isn't going to do anything else I always recommend weight training. Don't need a lot of time, you can even do some exercises while you're sitting down. Muscle burns calories at a MUCH higher rate than fat. Building muscle practically guarantees weight loss as long as you don't eat things like cheesecake all day long. You can even combine the 2 kinds of exercise in one compact little 10 minute package (http://www.crossfit.com has a new one posted every day).

My body type means I have to work out 5 to 6 days a week if I want to stay at my current weight, plus I'm short so extra pounds really show. That's life. I make time because I'm just vain enough to care about what I look like.

Cindie
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: happy1ga on April 11, 2009, 01:12:45 AM
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I agree she's not realistic about what she's expending versus taking in, but I don't think she's bsing on sizes. She is probably well proportioned so a very TIGHT size 16 at 200 lbs for her height sounds about right. People with apple shapes really can't judge gal with a good hourglass or pear shaped--they just will not fit into the same size at the same weight, even if they are both doing the same amount of working out. The shape makes a huge difference into what you can fit into.

Oh, I agree, when women are toned, they can weigh more and wear smaller sizes, but I am working off the assumption she is NOT. Maybe, but if she is not burning any weight, I find it hard to believe she is toned. I am very curvy, definately hourglass, and weigh in about 125-135, depending on if I have gained way too much. I need to tone up again, I usually lose at least 10 lbs. after about a month. On the size thing, I was working off my knowledge of dressing women in their 40's, 50's, and 60's. I know I couldn't get any of them in anything near the sizes she is talking about, and I worked in a pretty upscale little boutique, and sizes ran larger. Maybe she is lucky, who knows. I tend to think she is not being realistic about anything she posted, and that is not really unusual. Does anyone really want to look at their bad habits and then announce them to all their buddies? Especially one of the DUmmies? As Cindie says here, they lie, a lot.  :-)
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: jtyangel on April 11, 2009, 06:48:10 AM
Oh, I agree, when women are toned, they can weigh more and wear smaller sizes, but I am working off the assumption she is NOT. Maybe, but if she is not burning any weight, I find it hard to believe she is toned. I am very curvy, definately hourglass, and weigh in about 125-135, depending on if I have gained way too much. I need to tone up again, I usually lose at least 10 lbs. after about a month. On the size thing, I was working off my knowledge of dressing women in their 40's, 50's, and 60's. I know I couldn't get any of them in anything near the sizes she is talking about, and I worked in a pretty upscale little boutique, and sizes ran larger. Maybe she is lucky, who knows. I tend to think she is not being realistic about anything she posted, and that is not really unusual. Does anyone really want to look at their bad habits and then announce them to all their buddies? Especially one of the DUmmies? As Cindie says here, they lie, a lot.  :-)
Well then age probably has a lot to do with it...She said she was 33, didn't say anything about children so probably has a tighter stomach line, even with the excess waist then middle aged women(of which I am approaching very quickly :-)) I've just never wore a 12 at 140 ever, even when I was younger, but then young women don't generally accumulate it on their tummy as much--more tush and hips--and even when they do they have nice taut(sp) skin to hold in that excess. As I've had children and now am approaching the big 40, I have what I call 'resistant pooch' I didn't once have. The waistline keeps me in a 10 versus the 8. LOL I find I've almost traded shapes to some extent being more apple then the hourglass I once was so I get what you are saying--women accumulate weight differently depending on their age. :cheersmate:

But like you said, DUmmies never give it to you with total accuracy as was pointed out about the 12 mile daily walks that she supposedly takes.  :-) Cheers happy1 :cheersmate:
Title: Re: primitive tired of excess lardage
Post by: happy1ga on April 12, 2009, 12:59:05 AM
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Well then age probably has a lot to do with it...She said she was 33, didn't say anything about children so probably has a tighter stomach line, even with the excess waist then middle aged women(of which I am approaching very quickly ) I've just never wore a 12 at 140 ever, even when I was younger, but then young women don't generally accumulate it on their tummy as much--more tush and hips--and even when they do they have nice taut(sp) skin to hold in that excess. As I've had children and now am approaching the big 40, I have what I call 'resistant pooch' I didn't once have. The waistline keeps me in a 10 versus the 8. LOL I find I've almost traded shapes to some extent being more apple then the hourglass I once was so I get what you are saying--women accumulate weight differently depending on their age.

But like you said, DUmmies never give it to you with total accuracy as was pointed out about the 12 mile daily walks that she supposedly takes.   Cheers happy1

I understand totally. I just turned 43 a couple of weeks back, and I have a 20 yr old and a 19 yr old. Nothing is as tight as it used to be! I was one of those people that everyone tried to feed, and accused of anorexia up until I turned about 35. Then the s#it hit the fan! :-) I started putting on weight that did NOT want to go away. I was really freaked out. I had never dieted or exercised before. I suck at it, but congrats on your weight loss!  :cheersmate: