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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: DULurkster on April 01, 2009, 11:04:38 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5373447
Sounds like a ground floor opportunity
Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Original message
I have an idea about insurance. Gee... how about a NON-PROFIT health insurance agency
whose sole purpose is to pool the money from the premiums to ACTUALLY paying the bills and ACCEPTING all claims (after auditing the claims) from the doctors so they get paid ON time. No red tapes, no denial of coverage. If you pay the premiums, the care is avaliable for you.
Can it happen?
I dunno. I just think the for-profit health industry needs to be castrated and their balls sold to the highest bidder JUST to pay the claims.
Hawkeye-X
Who would bid on these detached balls? & how many claims would we be able to pay with them? :confused:
ContinentalOp
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1. There already are a bunch.
Kaiser for one.
Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts)
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2. My parents thinks that Kaiser sucks.
And I have NO idea why.
Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 09:06 PM
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4. Kaiser does suck.
Less than it used to - but it still sucks.
Market research done, it should be easy for us to stand the industry on it's ear.
Oregone (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 09:53 PM
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9. Why is Kaiser so expensive?
Administrative costs? They pay their execs a fortune? If they aren't for profit, Id certainly expect a lower bottom line. Anyone know?
Yeah, I know, we'll get our execs to work for $1 a year --- and definitely NO BONUSES
SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 09:22 PM
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6. There were many, but they switched to for-profit because that's where the money is.
Remember, Nearly all, if not all, current health insurance companies are in business TO MAKE MONEY!
They're not in business to see that people get health care.
They could just as well be selling cars, or Sham-Wow, or anything else that would make them money.
Sometimes I even think that it is an accident that some people actually get access to health care by using health insurance.
Remember, they're in business TO MAKE MONEY
As any small brainwashed child knows running a business for profit is JUST PLAIN WRONG!
TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 09:09 PM
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5. That's pretty much what single payer system would be. They could
do it by dropping the age requirement on medicare. That's all it would take. That and raise taxes on rich folk. So, you can see why it will never happen.
RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 08:49 PM
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3. If doctors didn't try to steal millions upon millions of dollars from insurance companies they would
get paid on time without any problem.
Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 09:27 PM
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7. My grandparents died under Kaiser; I'm not sure how good they are or are not. Updated at 10:59 PM
I sure hate to see the doctors get blamed. They are the first to help and the last to get paid. I had the most amazing doctor and was lucky enough to befriend him, and he was on the verge of quitting medicine because the paperwork was killing him. He wanted to be with patients, not arguing over which tests to give them.
It is so depressing.
If you want to know about doctors, join ReachMD. Listen to what they care about. Listen to how they speak to each other,and how they talk about their patients.
It's like eavesdropping on doctors. And they love the patients, at least if they care about themselves. But what they can't stand is the red tape horror beauracracy of the insurance companies.
They'd probably be a lot better off with the red tape horror beauracracy of the gubmint.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Original message
I dunno. I just think the for-profit health industry needs to be castrated and their balls sold to the highest bidder JUST to pay the claims.
They saw what Obama did to Rick Wagoner. Now they smell blood in the water.
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They understand employees of nonprofits still get paid, right?
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Speaking of the cross-eyed Iowa primitive, has anyone seen the bobbling primitive on Skins's island lately?
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Speaking of the cross-eyed Iowa primitive, has anyone seen the bobbling primitive on Skins's island lately?
Hm. It hasn't posted in at least a month.
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They saw what Obama did to Rick Wagoner. Now they smell blood in the water.
just because something is not-for-profit doesn't mean their execs didn't pay themselves an enormous fee. Look at the Rock Hall of Fame, its worth $40m in investments and donated only a few thousand dollars.
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Of course there is no mention of malpractice or tort reform which makes all other discussions of healthcare costs a waste of time.
I don`t know why libs think they can muddle with the system and not address that part as well.
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Remember, Nearly all, if not all, current health insurance companies are in business TO MAKE MONEY!
HOW DARE THEY! RUN A BUSINESS, TO MAKE MONEY???? I JUST CANNOT BELIEVE THE EEEVVIILLLL! Seriously, they think the people who have businesses are in it for the sheer joy of giving people crap, and just being happy getting whatever piddling bit of money that the DUmmies think they deserve? And, evidently, they aren't aware of the kind of big time $$$$ that quite a many of those non-profit heads get.