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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: asdf2231 on April 01, 2009, 04:51:20 PM
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 09:50 PM
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All I can say is, Damn. "Man decapitates 5-year-old sister in front of officer'
Wish I hadn't read this story.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/31/sibling.stabbings/i...
By the time the police officer kicked the door in, it was too late. Kerby Revelus was holding his 5-year-old sister, Bianca, and while the officer watched, he dragged a kitchen knife across her throat with such fury that he decapitated her.
Now check this shit out:
derby378 (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 10:09 PM
Response to Original message
3. self-delete
Edited on Tue Mar-31-09 10:19 PM by derby378
I may have bitten off more than I can chew. Nothing to see here, move along...
You can get the context of what the jackass "Editted" from the following posts.
Fuzz (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. This shit can't be blamed on any leader, it's serious mental illness and
seriously ****ed up.
Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. This has nothing to do with GWB either
The young man that did this was seriously not right in the head and didn't get the help that he desperately needed
Uncommenly level headed responses for the most part.
Then Douchbag tries to justify blaming this on Bush:
derby378 (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. That's my point
People who are this ****ed up need the government to step in and intervene, but the previous administration had a history of throwing our physical and mental health security to the wolves.
A sane society would normally work to prevent tragedies like this from happening.
I don't know. I'm just stunned by the sheer barbarism and depravity of it all.
And finds some converts! :whatever:
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. It does, though, in the sense that privatizing everything including our prisons
gave everyone less of a stake in the community. Privatize the prisons, diminish oversight and you have a schizophrenic young man released, untreated, back into his neighborhood.
If anyone is a poster boy for George Bush's America, it was this kid.
Catch22Dem (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. Are you ****ing stoned? Seriously?
Bad presidents don't GIVE you a serious mental ****ing illness.
Iris (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. but their policies can make serious mental ****ing illnesses even more burdensome to those who
suffer from them AND their families and the communities around them
No Shit! ANYONE who has watched DU for the last 8 years KNOWS THIS you stupid tw*t!
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. Howard Dean said we pay for universal health care, we just don't get it
AND THIS CASE is the horrible proof of what he said.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. Can you read? Seriously? This kid was in jail. In other words,
Edited on Tue Mar-31-09 10:36 PM by EFerrari
when his onset happened, he was in a place where he was monitored 24 HOURS A DAY. There was no reason in the world why he was released UNTREATED back into the community except that in privatized BushWorld, that's how things work.
Because in BushWorld, our infrastructure was to benefit his pals, not our people. So, no I'm not stoned. Are you?
Edit: language and civility
northernlights (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #19
48. my A&P professor was a nurse at a mental hospital
during the Reagan years when he closed them down. All those poor, psychotic people were just thrown out into the streets to fend for themselves.
She told us about one patient in particular. A young girl who was an identical twin, with apparently nothing wrong with her. Except that for no rational or understandable reason, her parents chose to leave her locked in a closet 24x7, crapping on herself and having food shoved in the door at her, while they raised her twin sister "normally." Then she ended up at the hospital where the nurses did what they could to socialize her -- she had no education, zero language skills, zero social skills. Had just spent years locked alone in a closet. Her mother and twin sister used to visit her weekly.
She was one of the ones thrown out. The professor always wondered what became of her...what became of them all.
And you seriously don't think presidential policy impacts the mentally ill or society? Amazing... indeed.
Xenotime (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #5
34. The lack of help is something that * didn't provide.
So, yes the blood is on his hands.
I only hope Obama passes universal health care so that those who are suffering can get the treatment they need and other needless acts of horror don't ever have to happen again.
Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 10:32 PM
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15. My opinion but this guy's mother probably knew her son had mental issues
But she probably never realized it would go that far and probably couldn't afford to get him some help. No person in their right mind would do something like that out of the blue. The family got clues but unfortunately ignored them.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. Not really. He was 23 and his neighbors say he acted differently
when he got out of jail. 23 is about the age that young people come down with schizophrenia. There is no reason to finger the mother or the family at all.
But it makes sense to blame the last president? Jesus H. Christ.
Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #15
47. guy had a record, family had money
family protected him too much for too long, and suffered for it. Altogether rather Amityville Horror, actually.
lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 08:25 AM
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24. He should never see the sun or the moon again in his life. Not ever again!
crazyjoe (2 posts) Wed Apr-01-09 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #24
37. he won't , the cops killed him
aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 08:57 AM
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26. This would have been a good time for shoot first, ask questions later.
Those police must have been in shock to have not pulled their triggers.
Xenotime (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #26
35. No. That's wrong. There is never a good time to shoot.
There is so much ****ed up in this thread that I am almost speechless.
Decapitating a ****ING FIVE YEAR YO AND BEING IN THE ACT OF ATTACKING A 9 YO DOESN'T BUY YOU A BULLET?!?
**** YOU. Seriously.
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-01-09 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #26
35. No. That's wrong. There is never a good time to shoot.
As I recall, the guy had already killed the 5 year old and was actively attacking the 9 year old when the cop shot him. In other words, definitely a good time to shoot.
Notice that this didn't happen until after the election...maybe living under a Dim president was what caused it. All the pressure knowing that he'd spend the rest of his life trying to pay back the massive stimulus and spending bills, bills that already completely overshadow the "horrific" defense spending the last 7 years. ::)
Seriously, this was a horrible, horrifying thing...and far more likely to be caused by demons than by our government, regardless of their idiocy.
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I read about this at WSJ Best of the Web site today.
http://online.wsj.com/article/best_of_the_web_today.html
Who'd Have Guessed ?
The Associated Press reports from Boston on a shocking murder:
Two sisters and the brother who killed them with a kitchen knife will share a single funeral service and be buried together. Samantha Revelus, 17, and her sister, Bianca, 5, were killed at their Milton home Saturday. Police shot the girls' brother, Kerby Revelus, 23, after an officer saw him decapitate the younger girl. A surviving sister, 9-year-old Saraphina, was recovering at a Boston hospital Monday after having surgery.Ernst Guerrier, a Boston attorney and family friend, said he spent Monday morning with parents Regine and Vronze Revelus as they made plans to bury the three together."They are still dealing with the shock and disbelief of losing three of their children," said Guerrier.Guerrier said there was nothing to indicate Kerby Revelus "was capable of something like this or that this tragedy could have been prevented."
and what the WSJ people had to say about it.
The report goes on to say that in September 2004, Kerby Revelus was charged with assault and battery after another sister, Jessica, then 17, told police he had punched her in the face "during an argument over a phone bill." He had two other brushes with the law: an arrest for assault and battery in August 2004 and a conviction for carrying a firearm without a license in December 2005, for which he was sentenced to six months behind bars.
Other than that, though, there was nothing to indicate that he was capable of something like this.
The DUmmies can try and blame anybody they want to, but some people are just born evil.
Like Sean Penn. :fuelfire:
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Sick,demented minds at every level...the subject of the OP and those commenting on it.
Putting aside all that for the moment,I thought it was libs who fought tooth and nail to keep these folks out on the streets...that it was a violation of their civil liberties to force them to stay in institutions against their will.
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This is a terrible story, but the DUmmy who blamed Bush for this made one mistake.
This crime happened in Massachusetts.
This is the so-called RomneyCare state. We have statewide heath care that Dear Leader Obama likes so much, he plans on copying it nationwide....Which is probably why its no longer called RomneyCare by anyone. :whatever:
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Is this the same case where the two sisters were going to be buried with the brother that killed them?
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erby378 (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-31-09 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. That's my point
People who are this ****ed up need the government to step in and intervene, but the previous administration had a history of throwing our physical and mental health security to the wolves.
A sane society would normally work to prevent tragedies like this from happening.
I don't know. I'm just stunned by the sheer barbarism and depravity of it all.
:thatsright:
Wesley:Jenny? Things got a little out of hand. It's just this war and that lying son of a bitch Johnson and-- I would never hurt you. You know that.
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Sick,demented minds at every level...the subject of the OP and those commenting on it.
Putting aside all that for the moment,I thought it was libs who fought tooth and nail to keep these folks out on the streets...that it was a violation of their civil liberties to force them to stay in institutions against their will.
wasn't it Geraldo who did them in working for NBC??
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Is this the same case where the two sisters were going to be buried with the brother that killed them?
Yes. :(
Wesley:Jenny? Things got a little out of hand. It's just this war and that lying son of a bitch Johnson and-- I would never hurt you. You know that.
There are always excuses for the real scum.
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I'm confused. The article states the nine yr old was in the hospital, recovering. How is it then that there were three of them buried? Did she take a turn, and later die? As was noted by someone with sharp eyes here, if this happened in Mass, after the election, and under RomneyCare, then how exactly is this Bush's fault? Because he didn't isolate all the mentally ill in the country, and have them treated, ASAP and FOC? Also, if I am reading their posts correctly, they blame Bush for privatizing some things, but also want privatized health care? WTH?
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He also killed the 17 year old sister. I am shocked that they buried them all together.