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Title: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Miss Mia on March 30, 2009, 12:29:58 AM
Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/30/obama-denies-bailout-funds-automakers-sets-restructure-deadline/)
Neither GM nor Chrysler submitted acceptable plans to receive more U.S. government bailout money, the White House says, setting the stage for a crisis in Detroit.

(http://www.badidea.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/gm_chrys_ford.jpg)

The White House says neither GM nor Chrysler submitted acceptable plans to receive more bailout money, setting the stage for a crisis in Detroit and putting in motion what could be the final two months of two American auto giants.

The Obama administration, however, has decided not to require the automakers to immediately repay government loan money they previously received, since that would force both companies into Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

A senior administration official told FOX News, "calling in the loans would not be a productive exercise for the American taxpayer since the companies don't have the money [to repay the loans] and it would simply put the companies into uncontrolled Chapter 11."

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Instead, the administration has decided to give Chrysler 30 days to work out a deal with Fiat and GM 60 days to come up with a new restructuring plan. Both companies will be provided with "some working capital" during those time periods.

A senior official said, "bankruptcy is not the goal," although there may be a "role for a court supervised process to effect the restructuring... different from Chapter 11."

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Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: djones520 on March 30, 2009, 05:24:55 AM
So he tells the GM CEO to resign as a condition to recieving more funds, and then tells them their not getting more funds.  Un****ing believable.
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: thundley4 on March 30, 2009, 06:41:19 AM
It's time to let them file for bankruptcy, so they can redo their contracts with unions, dealerships and suppliers.
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Black Swan on March 30, 2009, 06:56:34 AM
When is the One going to do the same with the Banks?
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 30, 2009, 07:47:23 AM
So he tells the GM CEO to resign as a condition to recieving more funds, and then tells them their not getting more funds.  Un****ing believable.
My thought exactly.

We need to hold him to his own standard: You're broke, you're mismanaging this whole affair, we aren't satisfied with your plans...RESIGN
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Chris_ on March 30, 2009, 07:52:04 AM
My thought exactly.

We need to hold him to his own standard: You're broke, you're mismanaging this whole affair, we aren't satisfied with your plans...RESIGN
Agreed.  Uncle Zer0 hasn't "submitted acceptable plans to receive more bailout money".  As a matter of fact, Uncle Zer0 hasn't submitted any acceptable plans for anything.  Oh that's right, rules & standards don't apply to the WH anymore.   :thatsright:
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Baruch Menachem on March 30, 2009, 09:14:05 AM
Notice the response from the financial markets.  Dow is down 200 right now, gold and silver are way up.

It seems like the whole world is suffering from the coriolanis effect. 
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Eupher on March 30, 2009, 11:11:59 AM
It's time to let them file for bankruptcy, so they can redo their contracts with unions, dealerships and suppliers.

Bingo. Too bad we couldn't have done that $45 billion ago.
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Chris_ on March 30, 2009, 11:24:08 AM
Bingo. Too bad we couldn't have done that $45 billion ago.
$45 billion buys a lot of votes.
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: TheSarge on March 30, 2009, 11:31:46 AM
So he tells the GM CEO to resign as a condition to recieving more funds, and then tells them their not getting more funds.  Un****ing believable.

If I were that guy...I'd retract my resignation and let everyone that would listen know that the reason for the retraction was because Obama reneged on the deal they'd agreed on.
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Hawkgirl on March 30, 2009, 11:43:40 AM
Chrysler Fiat reach a deal...breaking on CNN now.  "US Treasury approves the deal"  WTF?

Deals should be made in the open market...however; since when is the government's approval necessary...
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: TheSarge on March 30, 2009, 11:46:08 AM
Chrysler Fiat reach a deal...breaking on CNN now.  "US Treasury approves the deal"  WTF?

Deals should be made in the open market...however; since when is the government's approval necessary...

Since Jan. 20, 2009
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Chris_ on March 30, 2009, 11:52:06 AM
Since Jan. 20, 2009
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/aggie8387/brenner1.jpg)
Let it be written.  Let it be done.
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: dutch508 on March 30, 2009, 11:57:34 AM
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Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 30, 2009, 12:00:55 PM
Chrysler Fiat reach a deal...breaking on CNN now.  "US Treasury approves the deal"  WTF?

Deals should be made in the open market...however; since when is the government's approval necessary...
Hooray! American money--both public and private--going to a foreign company.

Thanks Obama!
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 30, 2009, 12:17:51 PM
Good job L'il 'O...markets are tanking due to you idiotic little scheme...not just in the US but Europe and Asia too.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.7e6cab4fec704a0fdd135ecdac00673b.221&show_article=1

Have fun at the G20 you pinhead.
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Chris_ on March 30, 2009, 12:25:16 PM
Good job L'il 'O...markets are tanking due to you idiotic little scheme...not just in the US but Europe and Asia too.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.7e6cab4fec704a0fdd135ecdac00673b.221&show_article=1

Have fun at the G20 you pinhead.
He'd be in over his head in a parking lot puddle.
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Miss Mia on March 30, 2009, 12:28:15 PM
If I were that guy...I'd retract my resignation and let everyone that would listen know that the reason for the retraction was because Obama reneged on the deal they'd agreed on.


GM failed to get the renegotiation with the UAW and the bond holders done.  That was a condition on the loans.  I'm sure Wagoner knew his resignation was to be expected, he failed to get the rest of the deal done. 
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: BEG on March 30, 2009, 12:30:40 PM

GM failed to get the renegotiation with the UAW and the bond holders done.  That was a condition on the loans.  I'm sure Wagoner knew his resignation was to be expected, he failed to get the rest of the deal done. 

I'd say it is impossible to negotiate with the UAW.
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Miss Mia on March 30, 2009, 12:36:27 PM
I'd say it is impossible to negotiate with the UAW.

Both the UAW and the bond holders didn't get done. 
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Odin's Hand on March 30, 2009, 12:38:01 PM
I'd say it is impossible to negotiate with the UAW.

True. The UAW are like Keith Richardses of addicts to the entitlement mentality.
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 30, 2009, 12:38:13 PM

GM failed to get the renegotiation with the UAW and the bond holders done.  That was a condition on the loans.  I'm sure Wagoner knew his resignation was to be expected, he failed to get the rest of the deal done. 
It's not the government's job to demand resignation from private corporations.
Title: Re: Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline
Post by: Duke Nukum on March 30, 2009, 06:38:44 PM
So he tells the GM CEO to resign as a condition to recieving more funds, and then tells them their not getting more funds.  Un****ing believable.
Oh no, with Obama this is completely believable.  I don't think it is unique to Obama but I think he is surpassing Clinton in being duplicitous.  I remember Clinton would meet with Republicans after 1994 for a budget deal or whatever and while the Republicans would be heading back to the Capitol building thinking they had a deal, Clinton would be issuing press releases undercutting the deal he just made.

What is unbelievable is that people would vote for Democrats again knowing what they are like.  But then Republicans haven't exactly been the picture of fiscal thrift but at least Republicans can be held to account because the media will go after them.