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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 26, 2009, 09:03:42 AM

Title: Remember All That Liberal Rage About Bush Keeping Secrets to Fight Terrorism?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 26, 2009, 09:03:42 AM
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Civil liberties advocates are accusing the Obama administration of forsaking campaign rhetoric and adopting the same expansive arguments that his predecessor used to cloak some of the most sensitive intelligence-gathering programs of the Bush White House.

The first signs have come just weeks into the new administration, in a case filed by an Oregon charity suspected of funding terrorism. President Obama’s Justice Department not only sought to dismiss the lawsuit by arguing that it implicated “state secrets,” but also escalated the standoff — proposing that government lawyers might take classified documents from the court’s custody to keep the charity’s representatives from reviewing them. …

In his campaign plan to “change Washington,” Obama criticized the Bush administration, saying that it had “ignored public disclosure rules” and that it too often invoked the state-secrets privilege, according to his Web site.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/24/AR2009032403501.html?hpid=topnews

I believe in wide latitude for the execuive branch in matters of national security, i.e. warrantless wiretaps of foreign adversaries even if the communications was 100% in the US but sending DoJ lawyers to seize evidence from the courts?

WTF?!?!?!
Title: Re: Remember All That Liberal Rage About Bush Keeping Secrets to Fight Terrorism?
Post by: Eupher on March 26, 2009, 02:10:52 PM
The Obama Mantra:

DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO
Title: Re: Remember All That Liberal Rage About Bush Keeping Secrets to Fight Terrorism
Post by: TheSarge on March 26, 2009, 02:16:38 PM
Different President...different set of rules.
Title: Re: Remember All That Liberal Rage About Bush Keeping Secrets to Fight Terrorism
Post by: thundley4 on March 26, 2009, 03:12:36 PM
This is exactly why I was worried about some of the things that Bush and Congress had done under homeland security.  A lesser man will use those same powers to further strengthen his personal control.  0Bama is a lesser man.
Title: Re: Remember All That Liberal Rage About Bush Keeping Secrets to Fight Terrorism
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 26, 2009, 05:42:27 PM
This is exactly why I was worried about some of the things that Bush and Congress had done under homeland security.  A lesser man will use those same powers to further strengthen his personal control.  0Bama is a lesser man.
Bush would not, and no president has the authority to, seize evidence out of the custody of the courts.