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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2008 => Topic started by: bijou on February 13, 2008, 02:17:48 AM
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In the wealthiest suburbs of Virginia, a quiet revolution was under way yesterday as life-long republicans switched sides to vote for Barack Obama in the Democratic primary.
So deep is the disillusionment with George Bush, so uninspiring the choice offered by the Republicans, that many life-long conservatives are abandoning the Grand Old Party to support a liberal black candidate.
Even Colin Powell, who served in two Bush administrations, has let it be known that he is considering voting Democrat. "Every American has an obligation right now at this moment in our history," Mr Powell said at the weekend, "to look at all the candidates and to make a judgement not simply on the basis of ideology or simply on the basis of political affiliation, but on the basis of who is the best person for all of America."
Laura DeBusk, 37, a "stay-at-home-mom", is one of the refuseniks who turned out yesterday for Mr Obama across Virginia, Maryland and Washington DC. In the past two presidential elections she voted for George Bush in the belief that he could best protect America from terrorists. It is a choice she now bitterly regrets.
But she has been inspired by Mr Obama's offer to bring together Americans from all political persuasions: "A friend of mine called me up after she heard I was for Obama," she said. "She told me she was as well. 'We're the Obama-mamas,' she told me. And it's true. He is so inspiring we are going to volunteer for his campaign."
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/even-the-rich-are-revolting-as-republicans-abandon-gop-781537.html
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Nobody who's running is going to bring together all Americans, it's just a question of which one the press is going to spin that way. Any of the three leaders is going to benefit Northern Virginia financially since they are all Big Federal Government kinda people, though of all three I am sure the Tidewater press would see Obama as the coming man due to the demographics of the people to whom they want to appeal, and to whom they want to sell newspapers or get viewership.
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Uh, if they are flocking to Obama then they were never Republicans to begin with.
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Uh, if they are flocking to Obama then they were never Republicans to begin with.
I agree and smell something odd here. It might be they are just lying to pollsters in the hopes they can get McAmnesty to add some conservative policies.
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"Every American has an obligation right now at this moment in our history," Mr Powell said at the weekend, "to look at all the candidates and to make a judgement not simply on the basis of ideology or simply on the basis of political affiliation, but on the basis of who is the best person for all of America."
Someone here want to tell me how I make a decision not based on ideology? I'm supposed to throw away my core values and vote emotionally or something?
I think I always voted for whom I thought was the best for all of America. Apparently this is a new way of thinking for some people?
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An Obama supporter trying to explain to me why they support Obama, with NO experience, is akin to the people from Idiocracy trying to explain why they drink Brawndo instead of water. "It has electrolytes". Of course, they don't even know what the hell electrolytes are, it's just been drilled in their heads.
I.e., why do you support Obama?
"He's for change".
...but what has he ever done?
"Uh, he's running on change".
I get that, but what has he accomplished, politically?
"He's gonna change things"
You're not getting it. How and what is he going to change?
"Bush Administration is evil. Obama's for change".
Never fn' mind. {Walks away mumbling, "What a mind-numb f'n robot}
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I dunno.
Some months ago there was a special election in Massachusetts, to replace a (D) congressman who had retired.
This being Massachusetts, this being a heavily Democrat district, this being a district run by a political machine that creates "votes" out of thin air, Democrats have usually won the seat with 80-90% of the "vote".....those times when someone has run against them, which wasn't often.
In this election, despite all that help of the political machine creating "votes" out of thin air, the Democrat barely beat the Republican candidate (the main issue seemed to be "immigration").
Things don't all flow the same direction; there's always cross-currents and counter-currents in the water.
Anybody who "sees" a "trend" this way or that way is an idiot.
That's why I remain utterly laid-back, utterly mellow, about the elections this year.
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"Disillusionment" with President Bush? George W. Bush hasn't sold military secrets to China, had oral sex performed on himself in the Oval Office, committed perjury, given away the Panama Canal, coddled known terrorist groups, claimed ever dictator in the world to be his personal hero, let liberals dictate his social and military policies, or used atomic weapons against our enemies. What's to be disillusioned about?
I wouldn't vote for a democrat even if my eyeball was being threatened with a blow torch. This is especially true if that democrat is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. It isn't really a concern, though, because Obama will not be the democrats' candidate. The democrat candidate will be Hillary Clinton, who will never win the general election.
The liberal MSM is just getting started. They have eight months to convince each and every American that if he or she votes for the Republican candidate on Election Tuesday, that stupid out-of-touch American will be the sole person doing so. Everyone else has been "enlightened". It won't work since the democrat candidate will be Hillary Clinton.
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An Obama supporter trying to explain to me why they support Obama, with NO experience, is akin to the people from Idiocracy trying to explain why they drink Brawndo instead of water. "It has electrolytes". Of course, they don't even know what the hell electrolytes are, it's just been drilled in their heads.
I.e., why do you support Obama?
"He's for change".
...but what has he ever done?
"Uh, he's running on change".
I get that, but what has he accomplished, politically?
"He's gonna change things"
You're not getting it. How and what is he going to change?
"Bush Administration is evil. Obama's for change".
Never fn' mind. {Walks away mumbling, "What a mind-numb f'n robot}
that sounds like my neighbor who is conservative but thinks he wants to vote for the Big O... ive decided to ask him:
"so, when you are hiring someone.. does their having any experience matter to you? or do you just pick the one who can talk a good game?"
running the free world is not "on the job training" ... and if this neighbor of mine wouldnt try and get the best candidate for the job, then he's lying.
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I call B.S. on this article because I live in this area. At our voting place this week, the sidewalks (and every other 'legal' place to put signs) were littered with Hillary posters. Not a single Obama sign anywhere. There were also McCain signs everywhere.
This article is from a UK paper. Their grasp on local (well for me anyway) politics is slim at best. The local news channel fell victim to Obamamania too. They all ran interviews with supposed GOP defectors who are getting behind Obama. But with one important distinction, every single GOP'er they spoke with confessed to being a member of the party in name only and politically dormant for years. Hardly the defection being claimed.
And as the Mighty Rove mentioned on Fox, most of VA is conservative and voted for McCain. Only in this area do you have an abberation.
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I call B.S. on this article because I live in this area. At our voting place this week, the sidewalks (and every other 'legal' place to put signs) were littered with Hillary posters. Not a single Obama sign anywhere. There were also McCain signs everywhere.
This article is from a UK paper. Their grasp on local (well for me anyway) politics is slim at best. The local news channel fell victim to Obamamania too. They all ran interviews with supposed GOP defectors who are getting behind Obama. But with one important distinction, every single GOP'er they spoke with confessed to being a member of the party in name only and politically dormant for years. Hardly the defection being claimed.
And as the Mighty Rove mentioned on Fox, most of VA is conservative and voted for McCain. Only in this area do you have an abberation.
It's from a pretty left wing British newspaper so I suspect it comes with a big dose of wishful thinking.
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I have no doubt that some Republicans are voting for Obama, as the Republican primary is all but over and people are making sure that Hillary won't win. I don't think he'll get all those votes in the general election.
Paladin0
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Obama, for whatever reason, is the media darling this time around. It was Bush (for some unknown reason) back in 2000.
All I can say is that if Obama gets the nomination, McCain is screwed... as are we all. I mean, I've come to accept the fact no matter who wins we're screwed regardless. But I would say we're just a little more screwed with Obama than McCain.
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I'll sum up the article for you guys: :koolaid: :bouncy: :manipulated: :lies: