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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on March 19, 2009, 01:11:50 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=250x3582
Sounds like a good example of a "stretchy" to me.
lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-04-09 07:14 PM
Original message
My Brother is retarded..Today,Social Security wiped out his Bank Account
My older brother is 60 years of age. He was born Downs Syndrome and suffers from mild retardation and Alzheimers.
He was on SSI, but he found a dishwashers job at Holiday Inn for $7.00 an hour. He was allowed to work 20 hours a week. He worked 21 hours, and they dropped him from SSI.
But they continued to send him money?
Today, Social Security wiped out his bank account of $600 and they wiped out his tax return of $600. He was going to use this money to buy medication for his heart condition.
He Has NOTHING! The Social Security Administration has issued a death sentence against this man who will DIE without his medication.
WTF is wrong with our country?
Something is terribly wrong ..... AIG was GIVEN $30 Billion in Tax payer money this week... not a peep heard from our media.
There seems to be some, uh, details missing here.
The Rita Hayworth primitive:
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-04-09 07:15 PM
Response to Original message
1. He has a social worker?
If so, contact the social worker immediately.
Also, call your Senator and your Congressman. That's what they're there for - their staffs will help you and your brother.
This truly stinks.
lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-04-09 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. He does not have a Social Worker....
We have tried to find a Social Worker to help.. but the system is SO overloaded... they won't even talk to you on the phone.
The family members have spent almost all of their savings on his health care. That's why we wanted him to work at Holiday Inn for 20 hours a week so he could at least get some type of health care.
The US Army shoots one missle in Iraq.. and the cost is $ 1 million dollrs per rocket.
Yet we can't help people in need who pay taxes on what little income they receive and try to be good citizens?
Something has to give in this system.. it is SO corrupt.
So far, it's a thousand-piece jigsaw puzzle with a significant number of pieces absent; perhaps the family dog chewed on them and ate them.
samplegirl (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-04-09 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #7
14. Wow!!! I must ask something here...
I have a girlfriend who get SSI disability and she told me they are issuing her a work ticket to go and work with a company that supports SSI.
So why would they do that??? Maybe they will take her SSI then?
He should be entitled to work 20hrs. Look that up and then do call SSI.
happyslug (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-06-09 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #14
28. Sounds like the nine month trial work period
If approved before hand a person on Social Security Disability can continue to get Social Security disability on the trial work period. If you continue to work after the nine month period, you lose ongoing SS benefits.
MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-04-09 07:15 PM
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2. Social Security is the new IRS. This is happening all over the place lately.
Excepting the IRS takes money, while SS gives it away, including to too many primitives.
The racist babbling sister primitive, who thinks "darky" and "pickaninny" and "Sambo" and "blackface" toys are "cute":
babylonsister (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-04-09 07:16 PM
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3. I'd raise holy hell. Call the media, write your senators and reps.
You're right, WTF is wrong? This sure isn't right.
The methamphetimine primitive, from southernmost Mississippi:
merh (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-04-09 07:17 PM
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4. I'm sorry to read this.
Go to the media with the story, the outrage about the bailout for the companies and the taking from those who need it the most. Go to a fox station, let them make this so political the SSI folks will have to step in to review and help do what is right for your brother.
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-04-09 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #4
12. I second this one FOR SURE!!!!!!
You get on the horn to a local newspaper, TV station, anyone who will listen. This is a story that needs to be made public all over the nation.
I would urge you to write to Keith Olbermann - countdown@msnbc.com .
I would also urge you - seriously - to write to our President. His staff culls the letters he reads, and ten of them go to him every day. It's the first thing he reads when he enters the Oval Office in the morning.
But, first, call your Congressman and Senator. Also your State Representative.
Make all the noise in the world, and, being the old loud-mouthed lawyer that I once was, if I can help in any way, just PM me.
Hmmmm. The Rita Hayworth primitive was an attorney?
I thought the Rita Hayworth primitive, who's pretty old, used to allege she was a nurse.
kickysnana (967 posts) Wed Mar-04-09 07:19 PM
Response to Original message
5. If he has those conditions who allowed him to work the 21 hours?
lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-04-09 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. Exactly. Family members left him unsupervised...
I blame the family. (and myself) We left him alone to work, and the Holiday Inn kept upping his hours during the Holidays before we caught it. I called the hotel and TOLD his Supervisor not to work him any more than 20 hours... but they did not listen.
I should have watched it more closely.. but during the holidays it got away from me. Now, we will have to pay back all this money and still will not be able to purchase medications.
Nope, none of the missing pieces to the puzzle here.
StatGirl (196 posts) Wed Mar-04-09 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Can you threaten a lawsuit against Holiday Inn?
That might give them the incentive to work with you on this.
I do agree that lots of media attention can make a difference.
terisan (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-04-09 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #10
20. Don't be hard on yourself. It is not easy to keep up with these things. The main thing is making sure he gets medicine and can build up another cushion for the future.
Cushion?
Who needs a cushion?
I thought 0bumble was going to take care of all.
Surprising lack of faith in 0bumble there.
noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-04-09 07:49 PM
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15. i think you should write the president and if you can get the media involved, that would be great too. sorry this truly sucks and there's absolutely no reason for it. one hour over the limit doesn't justify the harsh overreaction.
Yeah, send an e-mail to 0bumble, and see where that gets one.
Traveling_Home (753 posts) Wed Mar-04-09 08:00 PM
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17. Your story doesn't make sense - former Soc Sec Consultant
If you are on SSI you automatically get Medicaid. Simplistically - you lose $1 of SSI for every $2 of gross wages. Even if you earn enough money in a month to make your SSI check go down to $0 you still maintain your medicaid coverage, either under the SSI 1619B rule or in the case of a lot of folk with developmental disabilities, under a Medicaid DD waiver program.
I know it isn't easy but you'll have to become an expert.
Soc Sec has always been MUCH worse then IRS. His income every month is audited to change a future or correct a previous SSI check. Not even a small business man gets his books checked that often.
Scum sucking bottom feeders == Soc Sec
Always has been - always will be
lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-04-09 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. Thank you. All good ideas. Yes..something doesn't make sense on his account?
That's just what I thought? Why did the continmue to send him money and then go to his account so quick?
I have to work all day , so I find it hard to wait on hold for hours at a time ..trying to talk to SSI. I am not an attorney... and I think an attorney is what is needed here.
Maybe one of the Bostonian Drunkard's ninja lawyers isn't busy at the moment.
There's more, and then this at the end:
happyslug (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-06-09 11:42 PM
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29. You need to give me some more information
First 21 hours x $7 an hour = $147 per week x 4.1 = $602.70 per month. $674 is the SSI amount for 2009, $637 is the SSI amount for 2008. The rule for work and work is you take the income, subtract $30 then take the remainder and subtract 1/3. This remainder then is used to reduce your SSI. Given the above number ($602.70 per month) less $30, leaves $572.70, divided by three Equal = $190.90. $572.70 less $190.90 Equals =$381.80. If this was in 2008, SSI= $637 less $381.80 = $255.20 SSI he should still be receiving.
A second problem is income this month is used to reduce your SSI two months later, this December Income is used to reduce SSI in February.
If he was overpaid in the past, SSA can withhold SSI till the overpayment is paid back in full. He should have been told of this in a paper from SSA and in that letter he would have been given 10 days to object AND retain his monthly SSI payment till a hearing is held. In that letter he would have also been told he had 60 days to appeal, but if made after the 10 day period, you have to wait till the hearing OR the re-payment is made in full (whichever comes first).
Alas! the poor happyhugs primitive! no answer to the happyhugs primitive! alas!
Alas! many pieces still missing from this puzzle! alas!
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Wait ... all these asswipes want the 'Right Wing' media to go after their Communist Mesiah?! Really?!
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KC
Be careful what you wish for comes to mind here!