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Title: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Lauri on February 12, 2008, 04:23:34 PM
I heard this earlier this morning and will have to find the transcript.. but he said, in answer to the question on 60 Minutes, 'what is your executive experience? you ran the Harvard Law Review [in college]" and Obama kind of laughed and said, "well... obviously I ran for the senate.. and I am in charge of my presidential campaign"


that's it???
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: BEG on February 12, 2008, 04:30:20 PM
Sad...but he is for change.
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Lauri on February 12, 2008, 04:30:20 PM
here is the first page of four..

Quote
(CBS) One thing you can say with certainty about Illinois Sen. Barack Obama is that there has never been another presidential candidate like him.

He has a foreign sounding name that rhymes with "Osama," his middle name is Hussein, and he has admitted to using marijuana and cocaine as a teenager. Racially he is half black, half white, and in terms of political experience, green.

With just seven years in the state legislature, and two in the United States Senate, it would be easy to dismiss him, were it not for the fact that he is running second in the polls behind Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination. On Saturday, 17,000 people braved frigid weather to watch him declare his candidacy in Springfield Ill., where correspondent Steve Kroft joined him on the eve of his speech.


"Three years ago, you were a state legislator here in Springfield. What makes you think that you're qualified to be president of the United States?" Kroft asks.

"You know, I think we're in a moment of history where probably the most important thing we need to do is to bring the country together and one of the skills that I bring to bear is being able to pull together the different strands of American life and focus on what we have in common," Obama replies

Obama says he has no doubts that he's ready to run. Asked where he gets all this confidence, the senator jokes, "My wife asks me that all the time.

As he gave 60 Minutes a tour of the old Illinois capitol where Abraham Lincoln served in the legislature and delivered the House Divided speech, there was much for Obama to be confident about. At age 45, he is one of only three black senators since Reconstruction, the first African-American President of the Harvard Law Review, a professor of constitutional law at the University of Chicago, and the author of two best selling books.

He is ambitious and just daring enough to invite comparisons to one of the few American presidents, who was elected with even less political experience than he has: Abraham Lincoln.

"He grew into the presidency in ways that I think no body would have anticipated," Obama tells Kroft.

"I know I haven't spent a lot of time learning the ways of Washington. But I've been there long enough to know that the ways of Washington must change," the senator told the crowd during his announcement speech.

On Saturday in Springfield he began a campaign that seems to have morphed out of his latest book tour.

Propelled by the media hungry for a fresh face and a good story, he has graced the covers of Time and Newsweek, the pages of Men’s Vogue, and has been endorsed by Oprah.

But it has also been driven by his personal charisma and an ability to connect with people, especially young people, that is rarely seen in American politics.

He has challenged the post baby boom generation to cast aside its cynicism of politics and engage the system. In a speech at George Mason University earlier this month, he evoked Martin Luther King.

"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice. It bends towards justice," he told the students. "But here’s the thing, young people, it doesn't bend on its own. It bends in that direction because you decide you're gonna stand up to a war that should have never been waged. It bends because you decide that we need a healthcare system for all Americans."

On the campaign trail he is routinely received like a rock star, a far cry from the way he is treated in the corridors of power in Washington, where he is 88th on the Senate’s list of seniority.

"I wanna read you a quote from The St. Petersburg Times. 'The world is too complex and dangerous for this likeable, charismatic, African American neophyte to practice on-the-job training,'" Kroft reads.

Asked why he is in such a hurry to run, Obama tells Kroft, "You know the truth is I'm not. We have a narrow window to solve some of the problems that we face. Ten years from now, we may not be in a position to recover the sense of respect around the world that we've lost over the last six years. Certainly, when you look at our energy policy and environment and the prospects of climate change, we’ve gotta make some decisions right now. And so I feel a sense of urgency for the country."


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/09/60minutes/main2456335.shtml


there is also the video at the link..
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: DixieBelle on February 12, 2008, 04:47:39 PM
He has the audacity to hope for change. Sheesh guys! Can't you see that he's perfect??? :-)
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Uhhuh35 on February 12, 2008, 07:48:24 PM
He has the audacity to hope for change. Sheesh guys! Can't you see that he's perfect??? :-)
That's right! He's handsome, a great speaker and he'll bring change we can believe in! Just don't ask what kind of change because you know the old saying:

"If you have to ask, you can't afford it".  :-)
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Chris_ on February 12, 2008, 07:55:29 PM
He has the audacity to hope for change. Sheesh guys! Can't you see that he's perfect??? :-)

Despite all attempts to the otherwise, he has been black for the entire campaign (but there is still some time).  What more do you need?
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: djones520 on February 12, 2008, 07:55:45 PM
If he gets the nod, I think this'll be the biggest tool to use against him.  His lack of experience.  Given a few more terms in the Senate, he'd probably be able to quash that, but spending 2 years on Capitol Hill, with no real leadership experience in your background just cannot prepare you to run this country.
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 12, 2008, 08:07:04 PM
Hillary and McCain have both already vastly exaggerated their own executive experience out of all proportion to reality, compared to them finding him minimally qualified is not such a stretch.
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: djones520 on February 12, 2008, 08:26:32 PM
Hillary and McCain have both already vastly exaggerated their own executive experience out of all proportion to reality, compared to them finding him minimally qualified is not such a stretch.

McCain actually has command experience though.  That should weigh in his favor.  Neither Obama nor Clinton have ever truly led anything.
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 12, 2008, 09:16:09 PM
Hillary and McCain have both already vastly exaggerated their own executive experience out of all proportion to reality, compared to them finding him minimally qualified is not such a stretch.

McCain actually has command experience though.  That should weigh in his favor.  Neither Obama nor Clinton have ever truly led anything.

It counts for something, but based on my long experience with it, I can't count military command at any level below a multi-star command for an overwhelming amount.  Command at company and field grade involves immense amounts of oversight and 'help' from superior commanders who don't want any subordinate's failure to reflect on them, and it operates within a tightly defined set of boundaries outside pure combat ops (which were essentially nonexistent during McCain's career after Viet Nam).
Especially for an academy grad whose dad had the stars, there is a whole network of ring-knockers looking out for a guy like that, who will keep him from being relieved and ensure a successful command tour for him, even if it means finding someone with a brain to stick with the XO job to cover for him.  Therefore a successful command tour for one of them doesn't do a thing to help me differentiate the geniuses from the morons, and yes, morons do make it through our service academies, I've met them.  I have met some Army cases of hereditary officers who were kept from failing on the record by 'mentors,' so I have a rather jaded outlook on the amount of value an academy grad's service record has.
Not that I'm saying a command tour isn't stressful and demanding, it is all that, but it is not anywhere near the same as being in charge of something that is wholly dependent on your own judgment and skill to keep it from failing, like a business.  An intermediate or low-level military command has a whole system up above it that won't let it fail, a business doesn't.
A governorship is as close as most candidates come to a real test of chief executive ability, because although it's a little more protected than a private business, there are also some considerations in public office which a governor has to deal with proficiently that just don't come into play in the private sector. 
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Chris_ on February 12, 2008, 09:22:30 PM
Hillary and McCain have both already vastly exaggerated their own executive experience out of all proportion to reality, compared to them finding him minimally qualified is not such a stretch.

McCain actually has command experience though.  That should weigh in his favor.  Neither Obama nor Clinton have ever truly led anything.

Romney had some great points -- McCain should run with them. The LAT had a great article on all the reasons why hussein doesn't even come close to JFK (as he would have you believe).  heck, Cavuto was on with hussein's Eastern Region Campaign Manager and, when asked what hussein has actually done, that guy could only say "supported this" and "stood up for that."  he has never run anything and has tinkered with this and that in his adult life.

Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Rebel on February 13, 2008, 07:49:49 AM
He's got electrolytes. It's what the plants crave.
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Chris_ on February 13, 2008, 09:29:30 AM
He's got electrolytes. It's what the plants crave.
If hillary drops out, we might see a change in campaign strategy...
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"I'm President Hussein!  Anyone got a problem wid dat?"
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 13, 2008, 10:49:37 AM
Osama Obama's got experience..... just not what America needs...

· Voted against extending the Bush tax cuts on capital gains and dividends.

· Voted against permanently repealing the Death Tax. (Called the cuts a "Paris Hilton" tax break for "billionaire heirs and heiresses") · Voted against CAFTA.

· Voted YES on raising the minimum wage to $7.25 rather than $6.25.

· Opposed the lifting of $0.54 per gallon tariff on cheaper Brazillian ethanol. Said, "ethanol imports are neither necessary nor a practical response to current gasoline prices."

· Voted against the bankruptcy abuse bill.

· Opposes privatizing Social Security

· Voted against drilling in ANWR.

· Voted against confirmation of Sam Alito AND John Roberts as chief justice.

· Voted against extending the PATRIOT Act's wiretap provision.

· Opposed any bans on partial birth abortions.
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: SilverOrchid on February 13, 2008, 11:43:00 AM
His daddy is black and he wants change. Who cares if he is qualified to be leader of the free world. We want a nice guy to run things for the next few years.  :whatever: :sarcasm:
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 13, 2008, 12:17:40 PM
His daddy is black and he wants change. Who cares if he is qualified to be leader of the free world. We want a nice guy to run things for the next few years.  :whatever: :sarcasm:

Right into the ground.
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Wretched Excess on February 13, 2008, 01:44:46 PM

does anyone know what a "community organizer" actually does, exactly?
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Chris_ on February 13, 2008, 01:55:45 PM

does anyone know what a "community organizer" actually does, exactly?

Creates trouble, goes to city council meetings and asks for hand-outs, acts as overall community gadfly.
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Wretched Excess on February 13, 2008, 02:01:21 PM

does anyone know what a "community organizer" actually does, exactly?

Creates trouble, goes to city council meetings and asks for hand-outs, acts as overall community gadfly.

well, aside from "US Senator for 10 minutes before I started running for president", and "State Senator", that's about all that his resume has to boast of.

impressive. :sarcasm:
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Rebel on February 13, 2008, 02:19:04 PM
Don't forget about the electrolytes, people.
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Chris_ on February 13, 2008, 03:51:01 PM
Don't forget about the electrolytes, people.
Its what plants crave.
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Chris_ on February 13, 2008, 05:08:27 PM
Don't forget about the electrolytes, people.

 :rotf:

Obama's got Brawndo.  It's what plants crave.

Let's see... he's BLACK.  And he's a Democrat.  And, uh... I heard he was for change.  Oh yeah!  He's BLACK.  Don't forget that.  :whatever:
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Chris_ on February 13, 2008, 06:04:58 PM
You people don't get it. He doesn't need experience... he's BLACK.

seriously, Hillary is running on her "experience", Obama is running on being black
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Chris_ on February 13, 2008, 06:08:01 PM
The black vote is all going to Barry O. 

If I were Hillary, I'd be scared.  Very scared.
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: formerlurker on February 13, 2008, 06:10:47 PM
He said he would invade Pakistan to get OBL.   

Then one of his paid hacks whispered in his ear advising the junior senator that Pakistan is in fact n-u-c-l-e-a-r, so the invading part really not such a good idea.

Oops, never mind then.

Barrack Hussein Obama will never be president.


Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Rebel on February 13, 2008, 06:17:56 PM
You people don't get it. He doesn't need experience... he's BLACK.

seriously, Hillary is running on her "experience", Obama is running on being black

Actually, she's running on her husband's experience. She just doesn't want to take ownerships of his ****ups. Typical liberal mindset. Keep their constituency dumbed down by only telling them what they want to hear.
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: DixieBelle on February 14, 2008, 08:45:02 AM
Ya'll he's Magic. :-)
Title: Re: What exactly is Obama's experience?
Post by: Lauri on February 14, 2008, 08:47:46 AM

does anyone know what a "community organizer" actually does, exactly?

Creates trouble, goes to city council meetings and asks for hand-outs, acts as overall community gadfly.

well, aside from "US Senator for 10 minutes before I started running for president", and "State Senator", that's about all that his resume has to boast of.

impressive. :sarcasm:



well, in those ten minutes, he sure has learned how to spend money...