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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: LC EFA on March 16, 2009, 06:15:03 PM
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-16-09 02:40 AM
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I, NanceGreggs, US Citizen ... Updated at 2:40 AM
Edited on Mon Mar-16-09 02:50 AM by NanceGreggs
… do hereby declare that all fellow citizens who have participated in the use of torture, or the decision-making process that led to its use, or the “legal opining†that sanctioned it, are animals, totally unfit for living amongst the rest of us in freedom, completely unsuited to interact with ourselves, our family members, our friends – and, above all, our children.
I further declare – nay, demand – that if you are truly of the belief that your efforts have been for the good of the nation and its security, you come forward and state your case – and allow the rest of us to be the judge of your behaviour and your actions.
It’s easy. Just call your local “news†network and ask to be a guest in prime-time. You can then plead your case before the nation, and before the world. Hey, if you’re so sure you’ve “done the right thing†by all of us, you shouldn’t have too much trouble saying so in a public forum.
Be sure to have your wife and children in the audience as you look into the camera, and explain to the viewers how you knew what was going on, and said nothing – describe how you stood by and failed to lift a finger to stop the barbarity. You might want to throw in the phrase “I was just following orders†every now and then, just so we all understand your situation.
Direct the cameras to capture the reaction of your family members as you make your excuses – let the world watch your daughter’s horror-filled eyes as you talk about having made the nation safe by water-boarding detainees who had never been tried nor convicted of any crime. Let the world see your son’s reaction, when he learns of your involvement in torturing children of his own age to extract vague information, rendered under the most horrific of circumstances, that you would later point to as justification for your participation in some nameless young man's unending anguish.
Let them, and the world at large, watch as you describe the excruciating pain you allowed to be inflicted on others, who had never been found guilty of anything – while you, as guilty as they come, beg for the understanding and mercy you never afforded others in their moment of torment.
Truth be told, I guess you and I are not so unalike. Because I want to see you sweat. I want to watch you squirm, like the worm you are, as you beg for mercy from your fellow citizens – as you grovel for forgiveness for your crimes against humanity, against your country, against your fellow man.
But if you are guiltless, as you now want to claim – why don’t you come forward and declare your innocence?
Oh, that’s right, you can’t – because you are as guiltless as the guards at Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, Treblinka, Dachau – need I go on?
There is always a time of reckoning – sometimes it comes sooner rather than later, sometimes it catches you off-guard, just when you’ve lulled yourself into that false sense of security that tells you that you’re safe – because too much time has passed, and the world has forgotten your transgressions.
But this will not happen for you, my torturing friends. In a world of instant communication and access to the internet, your crimes will NOT be forgotten, nor your whereabouts relegated to some obscure news item that pronounces your current address as “believed to have escaped to South Americaâ€.
You criminals live among us – we know who you are, what you’ve done, and where you can be found.
And we will NEVER forget. And some of us will never rest until you are brought to justice.
Having said all of the above, all I can add is: “Have a nice day.†Because it may be your last – before you’re hauled off to face the consequences of your crimes.
Oh, and just one more thing, if I may? YOU DISGUST ME, EVERY LAST ****IN’ ONE OF YOU.
I guess that last bit needn't have been included - being so obvious and all. But I wanted to say it, just the same.
I am not alone in my anger, and my quest for justice.
But you are alone, as you stutter your excuses.
How's that feelin', right about now?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5263545
It never fails to amuse me when their delusions of relevance cause them to vent their spleens in a pathetic attempt to sound profound.
democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-16-09 06:04 AM
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9. The barbarians responsible
for these crimes must face consequences and media starlets and pundits who condone this savagery should be booed off the air.
L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-16-09 10:27 AM
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16. I submit that since we all pay federal income taxes that we also are complicit. Updated at 8:54 PM
How much of our tax money goes to the military and pay checks of the sociopath operations and persons? Did we all together protest by withholding our money by not working and marching out on the streets in protest?
A DUmmie proposes not working to withhold their money from the government as a protest and then hitting the streets in protest. ..Except for the surplus of unwashed hippies flooding the streets with idiotic posters, how would any one detect the difference ?
Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Mar-16-09 11:52 AM
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23. I really hope you are right:
There is always a time of reckoning – sometimes it comes sooner rather than later, sometimes it catches you off-guard, just when you’ve lulled yourself into that false sense of security that tells you that you’re safe – because too much time has passed, and the world has forgotten your transgressions.
But this will not happen for you, my torturing friends. In a world of instant communication and access to the internet, your crimes will NOT be forgotten, nor your whereabouts relegated to some obscure news item that pronounces your current address as “believed to have escaped to South Americaâ€.
You criminals live among us – we know who you are, what you’ve done, and where you can be found.
And we will NEVER forget. And some of us will never rest until you are brought to justice.There is always a time of reckoning – sometimes it comes sooner rather than later, sometimes it catches you off-guard, just when you’ve lulled yourself into that false sense of security that tells you that you’re safe – because too much time has passed, and the world has forgotten your transgressions.
Perhaps it will be different this time.
But why are the Iran-Contra criminals at large and still spewing ther venom into the ears of the public?
Where is the justice for the dark figures behind the Kennedy and King assassinations?
What retribution was exacted from those who sought to hire Smedley Butler to overthrow FDR?
Who, for that matter, masterminded the Lincoln assassination?
Someone escaped from the dungeon I see.
iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-16-09 02:27 PM
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33. i agree, the human race is unworthy
and probably deserves to be eradicated ASAP in all shapes and form.
i have a feeling mother earth will grant that wish soon enough.
sucks being a parasite.
Feel free to leave at any time.
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I, NanceGreggs, US Citizen ... Updated at 2:40 AM
Edited on Mon Mar-16-09 02:50 AM by NanceGreggs
… do hereby declare that all fellow citizens who have participated in the use of torture, or the decision-making process that led to its use, or the “legal opining†that sanctioned it, are animals, totally unfit for living amongst the rest of us in freedom, completely unsuited to interact with ourselves, our family members, our friends – and, above all, our children.
Ooo! Nice job of dehumanizing those of us who don't agree with you. What's next? Torture?
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Ooo! Nice job of dehumanizing those of us who don't agree with you. What's next? Torture?
Probably. One of those "Rules are for thee, not for me" kind of things.
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notice its 'fellow citizens' and not terrorists? she doesn't care how many people are tortured and beheaded by terrorists
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NanceGreggs
I further declare – nay, demand....
Demand??
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Nancy, Nancy...sit down and STFU...No one gives a rats ass what ya "demand"
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That bimbo is so delusional she wouldn't know torture if she were locked in an iron maiden.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/Eupher6/iron-maiden.jpg)
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I, mamacags, US Citizen ... Updated at 2:40 AM
Edited on Mon Mar-16-09 02:50 AM by NanceGreggs
… do hereby declare that all fellow citizens who have participated in the use of DU can blow me.
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Ooo! Nice job of dehumanizing those of us who don't agree with you. What's next? Torture?
Apparently, show trials followed by summary banishment to some Siberian gulag for the kulaks and their families. Comrade Greggs demands it.
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Hey Nancy,guess what?
No matter how much you prattle on to get ooohs and aaahs from your fellow band of demented the legal system in the USA has already spoken and it has said that you are full of shit.
Sucks to be you don`t it. :-)
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Hey Nance?
Go **** yourself.
And have a NICE day! :)
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Nance,
I too am a taxpayer. I declare..nay, demand my tax dollars be used to gain valuable intel by whatever means necessary if it prevents another terrorist attack on American soil or keeps even one soldier or Marine alive. You can run around pretending to be all profound amd pious because someone else is paying the price for you to do so. Instead of feeling sorry for some terrorist yanked off the battlefield perhaps you could feel the same compassion towards those keeping you safe. At least they have the guts to wear a uniform when they fight so that they become the target instead of hiding behind women and children. Perhaps if you're feeling so sympathetic towards the terrorists you could go stand with them. Let's see if you have the guts to do more than shoot off your mouth. I won't hold my breath.
Cindie
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But it's Ok to rip tiny infants limb by limb out of their mother's womb?
Nancy's "moral highground" rings just as hollow as the rest of the Little Goon spittle bells.
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Nance lives in Canada...she has absolutely no business telling anyone in the US what to do. It was not good enough for her so she left, she needs to spend her time telling all her fellow Canadians how things are s'posed to be in Nance's world. :mental:
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I, Mr Snuggle Bunny, US citizen do hereby declare...
...NanceGregg can sodomize herself with a jack-hammer for all I care about her asinine declarations void of any authority (or sentience for that matter).
...I further delcare, nay demand, she be slathered in tuna juice and thrown into a pit of those creepy-looking hairless cats.
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Nance lives in Canada...she has absolutely no business telling anyone in the US what to do. It was not good enough for her so she left, she needs to spend her time telling all her fellow Canadians how things are s'posed to be in Nance's world. :mental:
Yeah, I gonna say this bitch lives in Canada anyway. **** her...
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Yeah, I gonna say this bitch lives in Canada anyway. **** her...
So does my dad. A US Citizen and 21 year Air Force veteran. Your point? Thousands of Americans live in differant countries. You don't give up your rights just because of that.
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So does my dad. A US Citizen and 21 year Air Force veteran. Your point? Thousands of Americans live in differant countries. You don't give up your rights just because of that.
Let me rephrase that. This bitch is a Canadian national. **** her.
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I, NanceGreggs, US Citizen ... Updated at 2:40 AM
Edited on Mon Mar-16-09 02:50 AM by NanceGreggs
… do hereby declare that all fellow citizens who have participated in the use of torture, or the decision-making process that led to its use, or the “legal opining†that sanctioned it, are animals, totally unfit for living amongst the rest of us in freedom, completely unsuited to interact with ourselves, our family members, our friends – and, above all, our children.
Okay bitch! Let us suppose your family was in jeopardy, and the man who knew how to make them safe, had the information I needed in order to save them. How would you reccomend I retract this info in order to save the lives of your loved ones?
Just curious.
I know if, my wife, children, or grandchildren, were in this jeopardy, you sure as hell don't want to know how I would extract such info! I am positive it would make you faint, or PUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would be 100 times worse than what our government has done to keep us safe these last 8 years!
edited in order to curb my temper to these pukes!
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Okay bitch! Let us suppose your family was in jeopardy and the man who knew how to get them safe, had the information needed. How would you rec comend how I get retract such info in order to save the lives of your loved ones?
Just curious. I know, if my wife, children, or grandchildren, were in this jeopardy, you sure as hell don't want to know how I would extract such info! I am positive it would make you faint, or PUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does it include the use of a cordless drill, a 1/2 inch drill bit and a soldering iron?
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Okay bitch! Let us suppose your family was in jeopardy and the man who knew how to get them safe, had the information needed. How would you rec comend how I get retract such info in order to save the lives of your loved ones?
Just curious. I know, if my wife, children, or grandchildren, were in this jeopardy, you sure as hell don't want to know how I would extract such info! I am positive it would make you faint, or PUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would be 100 times worse than what our government has done to keep us safe these last 8 years!
Sorry...
I have already vowed never to use extraordinary means to save a liberal's life from violent harm.
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Does it include the use of a cordless drill, a 1/2 inch drill bit and a soldering iron?
Well, that is a start!!!!!!!!! I was thinking a ball peen hammer would also have to be involved, along with an anvil about waist high!
Oh yeah, and several pairs of pilers from side angles to plumbers! Maybe a pipe wrench or two, and a chainsaw!
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Sorry...
I have already vowed never to use extraordinary means to save a liberal's life from violent harm.
I WAS speaking of MY loved ones. I was merely asking if they would still want us to be pussies if THEIR loved one's were in danger. I doubt seriously if they would give a shit as long as we didn't hurt the terrorists feelings!
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Don't forget an oxy-cetelyne torch...
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I want them to be judicious in it's application, and try to only employ such methods when they are dealing with someone that has information. On the other hand, I'm sure the people doing these interogations don't want to do it to someone that truly doesn't know anything either. However, I may have to concede the point, that perhaps we need not stop plots against liberal areas.
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I further declare – nay, demand – that if you are truly of the belief that your efforts have been for the good of the nation and its security, you come forward and state your case – and allow the rest of us to be the judge of your behaviour and your actions.
OH yes, let's do this. Let's put it to a popular vote. I believe polls have repeatedly shown that a majority of Americans support some forms of torture if it would save lives. Would all you limp-wristed little libs just STFU about it then.
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Who uses the word "nay" anymore? And, it's so hackneyed drawing "the children" into it. ......above all.....our children. Your hypothetical daughter with tear-filled eyes. Your hypothetical son with horror-filled eyes. Oh, and the wife, so ashamed of the horrible loser she married. A cliche-fest. I give it an F. As in F-U, Nance. I'd rather read a bouncy in my leisure reading.
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Who uses the word "nay" anymore? And, it's so hackneyed drawing "the children" into it. ......above all.....our children. Your hypothetical daughter with tear-filled eyes. Your hypothetical son with horror-filled eyes. Oh, and the wife, so ashamed of the horrible loser she married. A cliche-fest. I give it an F. As in F-U, Nance. I'd rather read a bouncy in my leisure reading.
At least you know that bouncies are lies. This idjit not only thinks she's telling the truth, she's impassioned by it. Massive, monumental delusional behavior.
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We see why liberals have been so desperate in the past decades to remove guns from law-abiding people who have never committed a crime.
I'm convinced that Liberals yearn for a bloody purge.
Yet until we are disarmed, they can't do what they really want.
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I will offer my services to suture her fingers together, her mouth shut and put a few elsewhere to prevent her from breeding. :D
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I will offer my services to suture her fingers together, her mouth shut and put a few elsewhere to prevent her from breeding. :D
I would like nothing better than to show her some of the torture techniques predators use on their victims. It's absolutely disgusting!