The Conservative Cave
The Help Desk => Suggestions and Feedback => Topic started by: DixieBelle on March 13, 2009, 08:33:56 AM
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So the question of the day....What the hell has been happening to CC over the last couple of days? Since it's inception, CC has had three Admins: Rebel, Thor and Wretched Excess (WE). As with any board, there have been disagreements and disappoints which contributed to the situation we found ourselves in this week. As with any dispute, there is more than one side to the story and we feel that it's best to address them head-on and move forward for the sake of the board.
Most of you are probably aware of Rebel relinquishing Admin rights a few days back. This was in response to Wretched Excess's unilateral decision to demote Undies from a global mod to a topic mod. Well, this was the straw that kind of broke the camel's back to coin a phrase.
Thor's personal life has been drawing him away from here for a while, and due to a comment he made, Wretched Excess decided to remove his Admin rights as well without discussing it with Thor. The Moderators thought that this was a mutual decision made between the two so questions weren't really asked until it became apparent we needed to ask them. Point of clarification at a moderator's request: once the answers did start coming in it was apparant that the situation was not what myself and Chris and the rest of the Mod staff were thinking it was measures were taken to revert to status quo.
Wretched Excess (WE) gave Chris and and myself Admin rights when Rebel resigned as Admin and Thor was removed. So we took it in stride and started to follow Sam's lead as the remaining original Admin. We were not told beforehand nor consulted. We worked with the information we had and asked questions that went unanswered. As such, we both decided to step up to the plate and to try and restore peace and do what's legal and fair for the board, it's ownership and daily management.
Everyone saw what happened in the Fight Club, and there is no point in rehashing that. Clearly poor judgment was excerised and it's time to fix it.
What is important is what this means for CC. WE has decided to step down as an Administrator. He will remain here as a Member. Thor has had his Admin rights restored. Rebel will as well if he wants it. The Moderators will keep going about their business as normal. There may be some possible shuffling around in "ranks" but nothing that will have major impact to the board.
Now for you, the members, we ask that you just keep going as normal. Conservative Cave is not going anywhere anytime soon. Everyone here wants nothing but the best for this forum, even if some mistakes where made in trying to achieve that.
If you have any other questions, don't be afraid to ask. We'll answer them the best we can.
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I'm unlocking this for now if anyone wants to ask a question.
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So are we right to assume that Rebel and Thor were right{or at least justified}in their assessment of this situation? Kind of sounds like they were! Not trying to stir shit just curious!
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No questions. Good followup. :cheersmate:
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Really glad it's getting worked out!! Thanks for the update Dixie. :cheersmate:
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So are we right to assume that Rebel and Thor were right{or at least justified}in their assessment of this situation? Kind of sounds like they were! Not trying to stir shit just curious!
It would appear so. At least from my POV based on what I personally have been able to process.
Everybody here tried to keep things as calm as possible till the details could get hammered out and it was complicated by people having real life jobs and the process being filtered through Emails, PM's and Postings here that were going on while they were trying to get through their real life days.
There are still issues to be worked out but they are going to be worked out in private and (with hope) amicably by the people involved and they probably won't impact on the day to day too much.
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It would appear so. At least from my POV based on what I personally have been able to process.
Everybody here tried to keep things as calm as possible till the details could get hammered out and it was complicated by people having real life jobs and the process being filtered through Emails, PM's and Postings here that were going on while they were trying to get through their real life days.
There are still issues to be worked out but they are going to be worked out in private and amicably by the people involved and they probably won't impact on the day to day too much.
Cool! Thanks for clarifying asdf.
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Damn, I leave for a few days and the board gets screwed up. WTF??
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Damn, I leave for a few days and the board gets screwed up. WTF??
Well thank God we know who to blame for it now!
THANKS a lot ALS!
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Well thank God we know who to blame for it now!
THANKS a lot ALS!
;)
lol
No, I got an email about this and... shit, is Kev gone? That's all I wanna know. He's the one who made this place after all.
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lol
No, I got an email about this and... shit, is Kev gone? That's all I wanna know. He's the one who made this place after all.
Kev stepped out as an Admin on his own due to management issues. Then Thor got involuntarily De-Admined and all hell broke loose.
As of right now Thor has full admin rights restored and Kev has not told us what his intentions are.
Right now the board is being Admin'd by Thor, Dixie and Chris. Thor is ass deep in aligators working his butt off in RL and it will take a little while for the dust to settle.
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Kev stepped out as an Admin on his own due to management issues. Then Thor got involuntarily De-Admined and all hell broke loose.
As of right now Thor has full admin rights restored and Kev has not told us what his intentions are.
Right now the board is being Admin'd by Thor, Dixie and Chris. Thor is ass deep in aligators working his butt off in RL and it will take a little while for the dust to settle.
Yeah I was wondering what was going on with Thor! Sounds like his schedule is crazy.
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Just one Question:
WHERE THE ***** IS MY PONY?????
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Sorry, couldn't resist. You didn't specify questions only related to this drama. I'm glad things are getting worked out. I hope that the ruffled feathers get unruffled. I like this place.
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I'm still lost. Who am I? Where am I?
:innocent:
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Just one Question:
WHERE THE ***** IS MY PONY?????
:-)
Sorry, couldn't resist. You didn't specify questions only related to this drama. I'm glad things are getting worked out. I hope that the ruffled feathers get unruffled. I like this place.
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Just one Question:
WHERE THE ***** IS MY PONY?????
:-)
Sorry, couldn't resist. You didn't specify questions only related to this drama. I'm glad things are getting worked out. I hope that the ruffled feathers get unruffled. I like this place.
They have run out of ponies, a unicorn will be along soon, just as soon as he has finished some urgent business.
(http://www.theblogofrecord.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nude-obama-on-a-unicorn-defeats-wall-street-bear.jpg)
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"Office politics" ah, what a thrill they were to me! The main thing I don't miss in the slightwest. Can any orgainzation of more than one be free of it?
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There's a Fight Club here????
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There's a Fight Club here????
Yes, but there is a minimum post requirement to see it.
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I'm still lost. Who am I? Where am I?
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Is that you, Devil Drawers? Is the election over and all of the Paulbots seeped into the cracks?
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Will there still be boobiez?
+1
:innocent:
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Will there still be boobiez?
+1
:innocent:
That or Shade's ass. :cheersmate:
TY for the update.
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That or Shade's ass. :cheersmate:
Meh, I'm not picky.
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Is this a good time to say I'm supporting Ron Paul? I have youtubes!
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Is this a good time to say I'm supporting Ron Paul? I have youtubes!
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No :hammer:
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Is this a good time to say I'm supporting Ron Paul? I have youtubes!
:-)
Get your tubes tied.
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They have run out of ponies, a unicorn will be along soon, just as soon as he has finished some urgent business.
(http://www.theblogofrecord.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nude-obama-on-a-unicorn-defeats-wall-street-bear.jpg)
Great, now I will have nightmares for weeks. :bawl: That thing is scary!
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When I received the email today, my first thought.....whew, a NORMAL community :-)
Seriously, this is so common, as a former mod on other boards, remember, that which doth not kill you makes you stronger! I will NEVER be a mod again, much more fun being a "member". A member who understands what a thankless job the admin/mods have sometimes. :thatsright:
Great community, thanks for letting me in :cheersmate:
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For the record....DB and Chris deserve a few zillion H5's for keeping the place from burning to the ground over the last few days.
:cheersmate:
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For the record....DB and Chris deserve a few zillion H5's for keeping the place from burning to the ground over the last few days.
:cheersmate:
Sounds like everything is getting back to normal. But I can't call this a normal place. Maybe VERY INTERESTING.......Great job, :cheersmate:
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When I received the email today, my first thought.....whew, a NORMAL community :-)
Seriously, this is so common, as a former mod on other boards, remember, that which doth not kill you makes you stronger! I will NEVER be a mod again, much more fun being a "member". A member who understands what a thankless job the admin/mods have sometimes. :thatsright:
Great community, thanks for letting me in :cheersmate:
Yes, BTDT...would NEVER again.
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Great, now I will have nightmares for weeks. :bawl: That thing is scary!
Sorry Tess but with the way the economy there isn't enough money for ponies for all, you'll have a unicorn and like it. :-)
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Dammit!!! My eeeeeevil plans have been laid waste!!!
The Cave still lives!!!!!!!!! :censored: :-) :-)
Good job by the Mgt. in sorting things out guys.
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Dammit!!! My eeeeeevil plans have been laid waste!!!
The Cave still lives!!!!!!!!! :censored: :-) :-)
Good job by the Mgt. in sorting things out guys.
Mwuahhahahaha. The Sith looses again.
(http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/ep6/bones2.jpg)
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For the record....DB and Chris deserve a few zillion H5's for keeping the place from burning to the ground over the last few days.
:cheersmate:
Why? What happened?
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Dammit!!! My eeeeeevil plans have been laid waste!!!
The Cave still lives!!!!!!!!! :censored: :-) :-)
Good job by the Mgt. in sorting things out guys.
:lmao: Okay, that was funny.
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Why? What happened?
:hammer:
(PM sent)
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Difficult situation is an understatement and appreciate that there is quite a bit of openness here in dealing with it.
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Kev has not told us what his intentions are.
I'm still trying to decide on what I want to do. I'm upset with how the entire situation played out. I don't want to see the impact WE had on the board, nor his work to better the board, diminished. Out of the three of us, I will say he worked harder behind the scenes keeping the site hacker-proof and operational. It made my job a lot easier. The entire situation is awkward as hell for me. I would have just as easily accepted the server with USMILNET on it so I could move it, or take possession of the hosting account. I'm not saying I don't care about this site, just that CC is operational right now because of the hard work we all put into it. A lot of 3AM nights, on mine and WE's side, to get this thing up.
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I'm still trying to decide on what I want to do. I'm upset with how the entire situation played out. I don't want to see the impact WE had on the board, nor his work to better the board, diminished. Out of the three of us, I will say he worked harder behind the scenes keeping the site hacker-proof and operational. It made my job a lot easier. The entire situation is awkward as hell for me. I would have just as easily accepted the server with USMILNET on it so I could move it, or take possession of the hosting account. I'm not saying I don't care about this site, just that CC is operational right now because of the hard work we all put into it. A lot of 3AM nights, on mine and WE's side, to get this thing up.
I for one appreciate all the work you guys did on this site. This is my favorite message board these days.
BTW... Please PM me the link to the USMILNET board. I managed to lose it from my favorites file some how.
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Mwuahhahahaha. The Sith looses again.
(http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/ep6/bones2.jpg)
I still have one gambit left...RedNeckGirl! :evillaugh: :-)
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I for one appreciate all the work you guys did on this site. This is my favorite message board these days.
BTW... Please PM me the link to the USMILNET board. I managed to lose it from my favorites file some how.
+1 on that.
All of the mods and admins have made a terrific board here. If there is anything I can do to help keep it that way, let me know. Seriously.
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I still have one gambit left...RedNeckGirl! :evillaugh: :-)
Last I heard of her was a post on DU by RNG.
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I still have one gambit left...RedNeckGirl! :evillaugh: :-)
Ah, the subtle tactic. :-)
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I'm still trying to decide on what I want to do. I'm upset with how the entire situation played out. I don't want to see the impact WE had on the board, nor his work to better the board, diminished. Out of the three of us, I will say he worked harder behind the scenes keeping the site hacker-proof and operational. It made my job a lot easier. The entire situation is awkward as hell for me. I would have just as easily accepted the server with USMILNET on it so I could move it, or take possession of the hosting account. I'm not saying I don't care about this site, just that CC is operational right now because of the hard work we all put into it. A lot of 3AM nights, on mine and WE's side, to get this thing up.
I appreciate your comments.
for my part, I will just say that I am sorry that this whole thing happened.
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I for one appreciate all the work you guys did on this site. This is my favorite message board these days.
BTW... Please PM me the link to the USMILNET board. I managed to lose it from my favorites file some how.
No need to pm THE LINK. It's HTTP://WWW.USMILNET.COM
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I miss all the good stuff....DAMMIT !
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No need to pm THE LINK. It's HTTP://WWW.USMILNET.COM
you always seem to want to go back to milnet, don't you?
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No need to pm THE LINK. It's HTTP://WWW.USMILNET.COM
Thanks.
I think I have 3 whole posts over there.
LOL
But I do enjoy reading there.
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you always seem to want to go back to milnet, don't you?
I don't really have a dog in this hunt, but I'm going to ask out of curiosity. Do you have a problem with the folks that post there? Or is it just Thor?
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I don't really have a dog in this hunt, but I'm going to ask out of curiosity. Do you have a problem with the folks that post there? Or is it just Thor?
I don't actually have a problem with Thor. we just differ on management styles.
*plugs ears for the explosion*
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If only I were a mod still, I would merge the Schade on bottom thread with this here one.... :popcorn:
A better one to merge would be the Rub my Butt Cheek thread... :innocent:
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I don't actually have a problem with Thor. we just differ on management styles.
*plugs ears for the explosion*
Ok. Like I posted; I was merely curious.
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If only I were a mod still, I would merge the Schade on bottom thread with this here one.... :popcorn:
A better one to merge would be the Rub my Butt Cheek thread... :innocent:
that would be a "split", dear. :-)
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I don't actually have a problem with Thor. we just differ on management styles.
*plugs ears for the explosion*
Well, Sam, I agree with you on managerial style differences. ;)
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Ok. Like I posted; I was merely curious.
:cheersmate:
you and I have talked, dude. I am not insane, I am not power hungry . . . . there are a lot of things that I am not.
I stayed out of the fray because I didn't want to duke it out in public.
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Well, Sam, I agree with you on managerial style differences. ;)
agreed.
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you and I have talked, dude. I am not insane, I am not power hungry . . . . there are a lot of things that I am not.
I stayed out of the fray because I didn't want to duke it out in public.
Indeed we did talk. We talked about why I was having issues with slow page loads. I enjoyed our conversation a great deal. We got to know each other a bit better. We didn't talk about any other board related issues that I recall though.
I don't think you are insane or power hungry. I fully understand your desire to not duke out an admin issue in public.
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I'm still trying to decide on what I want to do. I'm upset with how the entire situation played out. I don't want to see the impact WE had on the board, nor his work to better the board, diminished. Out of the three of us, I will say he worked harder behind the scenes keeping the site hacker-proof and operational. It made my job a lot easier. The entire situation is awkward as hell for me. I would have just as easily accepted the server with USMILNET on it so I could move it, or take possession of the hosting account. I'm not saying I don't care about this site, just that CC is operational right now because of the hard work we all put into it. A lot of 3AM nights, on mine and WE's side, to get this thing up.
I'll have to second Kevin's sentiments.
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Indeed we did talk. We talked about why I was having issues with slow page loads. I enjoyed our conversation a great deal. We got to know each other a bit better. We didn't talk about any other board related issues that I recall though.
I don't think you are insane or power hungry. I fully understand your desire to not duke out an admin issue in public.
it's best for the board this way.
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it's best for the board this way.
I concur. I've been an admin and a mod in the past on other boards. I prefer to just be a member these days.
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I'll have to second Kevin's sentiments.
all three of us worked very hard to get BOTH boards up.
while I may regret some of the decisions, I don't regret the relationships that I have made with you and Kev.
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I just want to say thank you to all parties concerned. At the end of the day, we can at east say that we didn't behave like whiny little liberals and cower in the corner. We're human (I think that's what separates us from the DUmmies) and we can deal with this like adults and move on to what's important.....getting our damned ponies!!! :evillaugh:
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I still have one gambit left...RedNeckGirl! :evillaugh: :-)
Wanna die young????
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I'm still trying to decide on what I want to do. I'm upset with how the entire situation played out. I don't want to see the impact WE had on the board, nor his work to better the board, diminished. Out of the three of us, I will say he worked harder behind the scenes keeping the site hacker-proof and operational. It made my job a lot easier. The entire situation is awkward as hell for me. I would have just as easily accepted the server with USMILNET on it so I could move it, or take possession of the hosting account. I'm not saying I don't care about this site, just that CC is operational right now because of the hard work we all put into it. A lot of 3AM nights, on mine and WE's side, to get this thing up.
:cheersmate: