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Title: What's the Point
Post by: CactusCarlos on February 09, 2008, 09:29:24 PM
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What's the Point
Posted by littlebit on Sat Feb-09-08 05:11 PM

What is the point of a company offering domestic partnership benefits if they make it impossible to get them. My partner has been trying for several months now to add me to her insurance. We have sent then every piece of documentation they have asked for. They keep coming back and telling us it isn't good enough. My license was to old. It didn't prove that I was still living at the same address. So I went and renewed it early. Now they are telling us it is to new. It doesn't prove that I have been living at that address for at least six months. They wanted a bill that was in both of our names. We sent them our car insurance bill and our Am ex bill. They said that wasn't good enough because it wasn't a utility bill. I don't even know and married couples that have utility bills in both of peoples name. It is just getting so frustrating. If we were able to get married or even be recognized legally as a couple none of this would have happened.

Boo Hoo asshat!   :bawl:

Guess what - equal rights come with equal headaches.  What, you thought everything would be handed to you on a silver platter? 
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Lord Undies on February 09, 2008, 09:45:10 PM
It sounds like it is getting quite complicated to be a homosexual these days.   I pity da foo. 
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: CactusCarlos on February 09, 2008, 09:47:28 PM
It sounds like it is getting quite complicated to be a homosexual these days.   I pity da foo. 

 :lmao:
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: dandi on February 09, 2008, 10:09:39 PM
It sounds like it is getting quite complicated to be a homosexual these days.   I pity da foo. 

I long for the days when they just blew each other in Greyhound bus station restrooms like decent queers. Such a simpler time and place. *sigh* The ones today just aren't raised right.
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Lord Undies on February 09, 2008, 10:23:40 PM
It sounds like it is getting quite complicated to be a homosexual these days.   I pity da foo. 

I long for the days when they just blew each other in Greyhound bus station restrooms like decent queers. Such a simpler time and place. *sigh* The ones today just aren't raised right.

I have a lesbian cousin who is in her late 60's now.  She has been with her same chosen one for forty years.  They don't even live in the same house.  They live next door to each other.  Together they own two very nice houses free and clear.

My cousin considers her homosexuality to be like a birthmark.  It is what life dealt her.  She has tried to make the best of it.  It is her lot in life. 

Whether you agree with my cousin or not, you have to admit she has a sane approach to her sexual desires for a person of the same sex as she.  I cannot fault her.  She has lead an wonderfully conservative life.  She loves her Lord Jesus, and she has never pretended to be anything other than what she is - a woman who does not intend to bother the rest of society with her problems.   
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: CactusCarlos on February 09, 2008, 10:32:33 PM
I have a lesbian cousin who is in her late 60's now.  She has been with her same chosen one for forty years.  They don't even live in the same house.  They live next door to each other.  Together they own two very nice houses free and clear.

My cousin considers her homosexuality to be like a birthmark.  It is what life dealt her.  She has tried to make the best of it.  It is her lot in life. 

Whether you agree with my cousin or not, you have to admit she has a sane approach to her sexual desires for a person of the same sex as she.  I cannot fault her.  She has lead an wonderfully conservative life.  She loves her Lord Jesus, and she has never pretended to be anything other than what she is - a woman who does not intend to bother the rest of society with her problems.   

I'm willing to bet that your lesbian cousin isn't trying to impose her lifestyle on anyone.  I know another couple in almost the same situation as your describe above.  Life indeed deals a same-sex attraction card to many people as it deals other struggles to other people.   

Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Chris_ on February 09, 2008, 10:33:45 PM
I have a lesbian cousin who is in her late 60's now.  She has been with her same chosen one for forty years.  They don't even live in the same house.  They live next door to each other.  Together they own two very nice houses free and clear.

My cousin considers her homosexuality to be like a birthmark.  It is what life dealt her.  She has tried to make the best of it.  It is her lot in life. 

Whether you agree with my cousin or not, you have to admit she has a sane approach to her sexual desires for a person of the same sex as she.  I cannot fault her.  She has lead an wonderfully conservative life.  She loves her Lord Jesus, and she has never pretended to be anything other than what she is - a woman who does not intend to bother the rest of society with her problems.   

I'm willing to bet that your lesbian cousin isn't trying to impose her lifestyle on anyone.  I know another couple in almost the same situation as your describe above.  Life indeed deals a same-sex attraction card to many people as it deals other struggles to other people.   



Until I joined CC, I didn't know my true nature.  Now I have the hots for Lord Undies.

Don't tell anyone.
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: CactusCarlos on February 09, 2008, 10:35:31 PM
Until I joined CC, I didn't know my true nature.  Now I have the hots for Lord Undies.

Don't tell anyone.


As long as y'all don't expect our government to endorse y'alls lifestyle, what you do in y'alls bedroom is y'alls business.   :rotf:
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Chris_ on February 09, 2008, 10:40:27 PM
Until I joined CC, I didn't know my true nature.  Now I have the hots for Lord Undies.

Don't tell anyone.


As long as y'all don't expect our government to endorse y'alls lifestyle, what you do in y'alls bedroom is y'alls business.   :rotf:

Endorse?  Hell, I expect a SUBSIDY!
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: CactusCarlos on February 09, 2008, 10:41:50 PM
Endorse?  Hell, I expect a SUBSIDY!

Pay to Be Gay?!   :lmao:
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Chris_ on February 09, 2008, 10:43:53 PM
How did I wander into brokeback thread?  :gay:

I'm teasing guys, carry on!  :-)
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: dandi on February 09, 2008, 10:44:30 PM
It sounds like it is getting quite complicated to be a homosexual these days.   I pity da foo. 

I long for the days when they just blew each other in Greyhound bus station restrooms like decent queers. Such a simpler time and place. *sigh* The ones today just aren't raised right.

I have a lesbian cousin who is in her late 60's now.  She has been with her same chosen one for forty years.  They don't even live in the same house.  They live next door to each other.  Together they own two very nice houses free and clear.

My cousin considers her homosexuality to be like a birthmark.  It is what life dealt her.  She has tried to make the best of it.  It is her lot in life. 

Whether you agree with my cousin or not, you have to admit she has a sane approach to her sexual desires for a person of the same sex as she.  I cannot fault her.  She has lead an wonderfully conservative life.  She loves her Lord Jesus, and she has never pretended to be anything other than what she is - a woman who does not intend to bother the rest of society with her problems.   

I agree, it is a sane approach. I'm not a person that believes homosexuality will keep one out of heaven. To me it's a sin but not particularly different than any one of a thousand sins even Christians, myself included, commit in the course of a lifetime. My stepson is gay. He's a good boy and I love him like my own flesh and blood. We joke about "faggots" and have a great time. He even hated Bill Clinton, which endeared him to me even more. :-)

No, I only have an issue with those who try to paint homosexuality itself as something righteous and noble and demand special rights on account of it. Otherwise, on a personal level, it's not my business.
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Chris_ on February 09, 2008, 10:45:33 PM
Endorse?  Hell, I expect a SUBSIDY!

Pay to Be Gay?!   :lmao:

Now THAT is a great campaign slogan.
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: CactusCarlos on February 09, 2008, 10:46:25 PM
How did I wander into brokeback thread?  :gay:

I'm teasing guys, carry on!  :-)

We obviously need therapy - can you post another sparkling pic of yourself in those pink panties.  That could cure any 'tendencies'!  :rotf:
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Chris_ on February 09, 2008, 10:53:55 PM
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No, I only have an issue with those who try to paint homosexuality itself as something righteous and noble and demand special rights on account of it. Otherwise, on a personal level, it's not my business.

I agree Dandi, to put a homosexual relationship on the same level as a hetero relationship is ludicrous. No matter how hard they try, two males or two females will never produce a child. The next thing I am going to say pisses people off, but it is what I believe...I will never believe that it is right for people of the same sex to raise children together. I find it completely selfish and insensitive to the needs of the child. I realize it happens, I just don't think it should be encouraged.
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Chris_ on February 09, 2008, 10:55:20 PM
How did I wander into brokeback thread?  :gay:

I'm teasing guys, carry on!  :-)

We obviously need therapy - can you post another sparkling pic of yourself in those pink panties.  That could cure any 'tendencies'!  :rotf:

Oh you didn't see that picture did you? I am really embarassed now.  :-)
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: CactusCarlos on February 09, 2008, 11:01:27 PM
Oh you didn't see that picture did you? I am really embarassed now.  :-)

Oh don't feel embarassed.  You have quite the spectacular aft section.  :-) 

(The sparkles were quite the touch!   :rotf:)
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Lord Undies on February 09, 2008, 11:02:29 PM
It sounds like it is getting quite complicated to be a homosexual these days.   I pity da foo. 

I long for the days when they just blew each other in Greyhound bus station restrooms like decent queers. Such a simpler time and place. *sigh* The ones today just aren't raised right.

I have a lesbian cousin who is in her late 60's now.  She has been with her same chosen one for forty years.  They don't even live in the same house.  They live next door to each other.  Together they own two very nice houses free and clear.

My cousin considers her homosexuality to be like a birthmark.  It is what life dealt her.  She has tried to make the best of it.  It is her lot in life. 

Whether you agree with my cousin or not, you have to admit she has a sane approach to her sexual desires for a person of the same sex as she.  I cannot fault her.  She has lead an wonderfully conservative life.  She loves her Lord Jesus, and she has never pretended to be anything other than what she is - a woman who does not intend to bother the rest of society with her problems.   

I agree, it is a sane approach. I'm not a person that believes homosexuality will keep one out of heaven. To me it's a sin but not particularly different than any one of a thousand sins even Christians, myself included, commit in the course of a lifetime. My stepson is gay. He's a good boy and I love him like my own flesh and blood. We joke about "faggots" and have a great time. He even hated Bill Clinton, which endeared him to me even more. :-)

No, I only have an issue with those who try to paint homosexuality itself as something righteous and noble and demand special rights on account of it. Otherwise, on a personal level, it's not my business.

That's the point.  I would guess 90% of the homosexuals just want to be left alone.  They have their Cross to bear and they do so within the context of trying to lead a normal life.  The politics of the other 10% is not improving their lives.  It is doing the opposite.  That tells me there is something sinister going on and it is too powerful for the everyday homosexual to stop.  The ratio of horse to cart is w-a-y out of whack.    

Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Lord Undies on February 09, 2008, 11:08:54 PM
I agree Dandi, to put a homosexual relationship on the same level as a hetero relationship is ludicrous. No matter how hard they try, two males or two females will never produce a child. The next thing I am going to say pisses people off, but it is what I believe...I will never believe that it is right for people of the same sex to raise children together. I find it completely selfish and insensitive to the needs of the child. I realize it happens, I just don't think it should be encouraged.

I have another homosexual cousin from my mom's side of the family who is male.  He agrees with you.  He took in his brother's child (six at the time) when his brother died.  He destroyed his homosexual life in order to raise this child.  I was stunned. 
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: dandi on February 09, 2008, 11:10:19 PM
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No, I only have an issue with those who try to paint homosexuality itself as something righteous and noble and demand special rights on account of it. Otherwise, on a personal level, it's not my business.

I agree Dandi, to put a homosexual relationship on the same level as a hetero relationship is ludicrous. No matter how hard they try, two males or two females will never produce a child. The next thing I am going to say pisses people off, but it is what I believe...I will never believe that it is right for people of the same sex to raise children together. I find it completely selfish and insensitive to the needs of the child. I realize it happens, I just don't think it should be encouraged.

Yup, ditto.

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We obviously need therapy - can you post another sparkling pic of yourself in those pink panties.  That could cure any 'tendencies'!

Whaaaa...? How did I miss that? Link?

 :naughty: :pervert: 


Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Chris_ on February 09, 2008, 11:11:13 PM
I agree Dandi, to put a homosexual relationship on the same level as a hetero relationship is ludicrous. No matter how hard they try, two males or two females will never produce a child. The next thing I am going to say pisses people off, but it is what I believe...I will never believe that it is right for people of the same sex to raise children together. I find it completely selfish and insensitive to the needs of the child. I realize it happens, I just don't think it should be encouraged.

I have another homosexual cousin from my mom's side of the family who is male.  He agrees with you.  He took in his brother's child (six at the time) when his brother died.  He destroyed his homosexual life in order to raise this child.  I was stunned. 

He is an honorable man.
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Lord Undies on February 09, 2008, 11:34:40 PM
I agree Dandi, to put a homosexual relationship on the same level as a hetero relationship is ludicrous. No matter how hard they try, two males or two females will never produce a child. The next thing I am going to say pisses people off, but it is what I believe...I will never believe that it is right for people of the same sex to raise children together. I find it completely selfish and insensitive to the needs of the child. I realize it happens, I just don't think it should be encouraged.

I have another homosexual cousin from my mom's side of the family who is male.  He agrees with you.  He took in his brother's child (six at the time) when his brother died.  He destroyed his homosexual life in order to raise this child.  I was stunned. 

He is an honorable man.

The kid will be 14 in September, and from what I hear, he is quite the impressive young man.  My cousin's "partner" is back in the picture but does not live in the same house. 

My cousin who died, the kid's dad, his funeral was on September 11, 2001.  I will never forget it. 
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: CactusCarlos on February 09, 2008, 11:38:28 PM
He destroyed his homosexual life in order to raise this child.  I was stunned. 

What an honorable man - there must be a special place in Heaven for him.

Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Chris_ on February 09, 2008, 11:43:50 PM
I agree Dandi, to put a homosexual relationship on the same level as a hetero relationship is ludicrous. No matter how hard they try, two males or two females will never produce a child. The next thing I am going to say pisses people off, but it is what I believe...I will never believe that it is right for people of the same sex to raise children together. I find it completely selfish and insensitive to the needs of the child. I realize it happens, I just don't think it should be encouraged.

I have another homosexual cousin from my mom's side of the family who is male.  He agrees with you.  He took in his brother's child (six at the time) when his brother died.  He destroyed his homosexual life in order to raise this child.  I was stunned. 

He is an honorable man.

The kid will be 14 in September, and from what I hear, he is quite the impressive young man.  My cousin's "partner" is back in the picture but does not live in the same house. 

My cousin who died, the kid's dad, his funeral was on September 11, 2001.  I will never forget it. 

An interesting story for so many reasons.
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Ree on February 09, 2008, 11:55:01 PM
Until I joined CC, I didn't know my true nature.  Now I have the hots for Lord Undies.

Don't tell anyone.


As long as y'all don't expect our government to endorse y'alls lifestyle, what you do in y'alls bedroom is y'alls business.   :rotf:

Endorse?  Hell, I expect a SUBSIDY!
And that my dear is your first mistake...
Us peeps out her in "fly-over" country will accept most anything ya do..as long as ya don't flant it in out faces...
if the "gays" could get rid of both coasts, they could have the "marriages"
The ones in "fly-over" country know ya dcon;t have to beat in the front door when the back door it wide open.
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Lord Undies on February 09, 2008, 11:56:02 PM
I agree Dandi, to put a homosexual relationship on the same level as a hetero relationship is ludicrous. No matter how hard they try, two males or two females will never produce a child. The next thing I am going to say pisses people off, but it is what I believe...I will never believe that it is right for people of the same sex to raise children together. I find it completely selfish and insensitive to the needs of the child. I realize it happens, I just don't think it should be encouraged.

I have another homosexual cousin from my mom's side of the family who is male.  He agrees with you.  He took in his brother's child (six at the time) when his brother died.  He destroyed his homosexual life in order to raise this child.  I was stunned. 

He is an honorable man.

The kid will be 14 in September, and from what I hear, he is quite the impressive young man.  My cousin's "partner" is back in the picture but does not live in the same house. 

My cousin who died, the kid's dad, his funeral was on September 11, 2001.  I will never forget it. 

An interesting story for so many reasons.

The preacher who did the funeral service turned it into a Come To Jesus moment and no one was insulted.  My poor dead cousin lied there in his eternal box-home at the top of the chapel's aisle,  a secondary thought after the events of the day.  The third most important day of his life ruined by terrorists he never got to scorn.....just like the victims of that very morning's attack.
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Wretched Excess on February 10, 2008, 12:12:56 AM
Until I joined CC, I didn't know my true nature.  Now I have the hots for Lord Undies.

Don't tell anyone.


As long as y'all don't expect our government to endorse y'alls lifestyle, what you do in y'alls bedroom is y'alls business.   :rotf:

Endorse?  Hell, I expect a SUBSIDY!
And that my dear is your first mistake...
Us peeps out her in "fly-over" country will accept most anything ya do..as long as ya don't flant it in out faces...
if the "gays" could get rid of both coasts, they could have the "marriages"
The ones in "fly-over" country know ya dcon;t have to beat in the front door when the back door it wide open.

I just can't seem to detect a point in your post.  maybe it's just me.
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: miskie on February 10, 2008, 06:27:09 AM
How did I wander into brokeback thread?  :gay:

I'm teasing guys, carry on!  :-)

Naaa, this is one of the Newer Brokeback threads from Either "Return From Brokeback Mountain" , or "Escape To Brokeback Mountain", but I'm not sure which one since I always get the two sequel films confused.....   :-)

This thread brought to you By the word Plus and the number one.
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: jtyangel on February 10, 2008, 08:37:56 AM
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What's the Point
Posted by littlebit on Sat Feb-09-08 05:11 PM

What is the point of a company offering domestic partnership benefits if they make it impossible to get them. My partner has been trying for several months now to add me to her insurance. We have sent then every piece of documentation they have asked for. They keep coming back and telling us it isn't good enough. My license was to old. It didn't prove that I was still living at the same address. So I went and renewed it early. Now they are telling us it is to new. It doesn't prove that I have been living at that address for at least six months. They wanted a bill that was in both of our names. We sent them our car insurance bill and our Am ex bill. They said that wasn't good enough because it wasn't a utility bill. I don't even know and married couples that have utility bills in both of peoples name. It is just getting so frustrating. If we were able to get married or even be recognized legally as a couple none of this would have happened.

Boo Hoo asshat!   :bawl:

Guess what - equal rights come with equal headaches.  What, you thought everything would be handed to you on a silver platter? 
Yeah, I don't feel sorry for her either. We have to bring a crapload of paper to register our children in school. I suspect it is because of the abuses of other people we have to jump so many hoops, but we do it. Welcome to the life of having responsibilies.

She is right about the utility bill though--those are in my name. I suspect insurance companies are doing what they usually do, paying off for persistence. Perhaps the 'loving' girlfriend would think to add her 'spouse' to the home's deed or rental agreement...that might help. Makes you wonder why she doesn't huh?
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: jtyangel on February 10, 2008, 08:43:08 AM
It sounds like it is getting quite complicated to be a homosexual these days.   I pity da foo. 

I long for the days when they just blew each other in Greyhound bus station restrooms like decent queers. Such a simpler time and place. *sigh* The ones today just aren't raised right.

I have a lesbian cousin who is in her late 60's now.  She has been with her same chosen one for forty years.  They don't even live in the same house.  They live next door to each other.  Together they own two very nice houses free and clear.

My cousin considers her homosexuality to be like a birthmark.  It is what life dealt her.  She has tried to make the best of it.  It is her lot in life. 

Whether you agree with my cousin or not, you have to admit she has a sane approach to her sexual desires for a person of the same sex as she.  I cannot fault her.  She has lead an wonderfully conservative life.  She loves her Lord Jesus, and she has never pretended to be anything other than what she is - a woman who does not intend to bother the rest of society with her problems.   

I agree, it is a sane approach. I'm not a person that believes homosexuality will keep one out of heaven. To me it's a sin but not particularly different than any one of a thousand sins even Christians, myself included, commit in the course of a lifetime. My stepson is gay. He's a good boy and I love him like my own flesh and blood. We joke about "faggots" and have a great time. He even hated Bill Clinton, which endeared him to me even more. :-)

No, I only have an issue with those who try to paint homosexuality itself as something righteous and noble and demand special rights on account of it. Otherwise, on a personal level, it's not my business.

Dandi, I'm in line with your view. I think homosexuality is the cross that some people have to bear, no different then the temptations that other folks have in their lives. It is their struggle. I have had some wonderful homosexual friends, a relative who is both transgender and homosexual, and a sister in law who is a lesbian. Most were good hard-working individuals who understood this was their struggle in life and dealt with it the best they could. Most lovers of Jesus Christ and seeking forgiveness when they were not successful in their struggle with this issue, just like the rest of us do.

I too draw the line though when homosexuals would like their sin legitimized on a cultural level.

Now, if we want to debate how they got that way, I gots me some theories... :popcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: Chris_ on February 17, 2008, 04:46:57 PM
How did I wander into brokeback thread?  :gay:

I'm teasing guys, carry on!  :-)

Naaa, this is one of the Newer Brokeback threads from Either "Return From Brokeback Mountain" , or "Escape To Brokeback Mountain", but I'm not sure which one since I always get the two sequel films confused.....   :-)

This thread brought to you By the word Plus and the number one.

lol.....  :lmao:
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 17, 2008, 04:57:19 PM
Welcome to the wonderful world of insurance provider BS bureaucracy, littlebit.  Now imagine what it would be like if there were only one insurance 'company' with no competition and everybody had to sign up...
Title: Re: What's the Point
Post by: VelvetElvis on February 18, 2008, 07:47:50 AM
Welcome to the wonderful world of insurance provider BS bureaucracy, littlebit.  Now imagine what it would be like if there were only one insurance 'company' with no competition and everybody had to sign up...

Oh, it would be Heaven!

Just gotta make sure the Right People are running it, that's all!

[/moonbat mode]