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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Servonaut on March 10, 2009, 02:32:22 PM
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-09-09 03:38 PM
Original message
Area bloke discovers ignorant Americans working at Walmart.
I was just talking with a new co-worker, a Brit who was just transfered to our San Diego office. This is his first day on the job.
He told me he went to Walmart yesterday to buy a bottle of wine. (Why walmart? Different story altogether.)
He's a young guy so the checker asked for his ID and he dutifully produced his UK driver's license. I won't try to duplicate his absolutely hysterical re-enactment of the conversation, but suffice it to say even after going two rungs up the management ladder, he still found no one who knows that the United Kingdom is a real place.
My co-worker said. "I could understand if the law didn't allow them to accept the document as a valid ID, but that wasn't the problem. The problem was that even after I explained that "UK" stands for United Kingdom, they still did not know what it is."
His first day on the job Huh ?
monmouth (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-09-09 03:41 PM
Response to Original message
1. OR, how about the nimrod who would not believe that Great Britain, England
and the United Kingdom were all the same place! Yikes..
arcadian (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-09-09 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #1
31. Actually that's not correct.
Great Britain includes England, Scotland and Wales. It is an island.
The United Kingdom includes Great Britain and Northern Ireland and all overseas territories, colonies, etc.
England is a political entity within all of the above.
Doh !
dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-09-09 03:45 PM
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5. "ignorant americans working at walmart..." Stop the presses!
At least they are working. How many DUmp monkeys are unemployed ?
marmar (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-09-09 03:46 PM
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7. Isn't it something like 2/3 of American students can't find the UK on a globe?
I would say dumber than a box of rocks, but it would be slanderous to the rocks.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-09-09 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #7
68. No. They can't find the Earth on a globe.
Thanks to our public school system
Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-09-09 05:00 PM
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55. Want to have fun with your republican friends?
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 05:00 PM by Elwood P Dowd
I've always had a world globe in my residence since back in the 1970s. I've asked several Bush worshiping visitors to pick out Iraq or Afghanistan on my globe, and half the time these idiots take forever to find those countries.
Another bouncy !!
Uh Oh, an adult shows up
1 (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-10-09 01:35 AM
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107. so in the end... did this arrogant ****ing prig of a brit get his wine?
i do hope so. along with his funny little party story about how americans are "so" ignorant.
because we should expect each and every minimum wage employee at walmart to be able to identify and verify each and every international id they are presented with.
my god! the fact that they could lose their job through an improper id validation has no bearing on this? none at all? of course not!
the walmart employee should first and foremost be completely aware of what a valid uk id should look like, shouldn't they? how about the credentials of some bloke from saudia aribia?
the arrogance and stupidity in this thread is outrageous. some little working **** at walmart is confronted with a challenge that could cost them their livelihood. it might just be a challenge from the state alcohol control commission. how is the minimum wage **** supposed to know?
but that's cool. let's just laugh and "cluck" at that minimum wage employee here. after all, they are not a "union" employee, right? and they work at walmart. so they are nothing in our eyes, right?.
sometimes du really disgusts me...
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Good find Servo!
^5
KC
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Interesting how they are all so smarmy but a fight breaks out over what the UK is! :lmao:
KC
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Interesting how they are all so smarmy but a fight breaks out over what the UK is! :lmao:
KC
The DUmmies aren't happy with 1's post
Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-10-09 09:34 AM
Response to Reply #107
117. Whoa and a wow!
Why are you assuming this is an "arrogant little prick?" Because he's British? Maybe he was frustrated and that's why he told his co-worker. Maybe he was bemused or mildly amused. Sounds to me like you're throwing stones while living in a glass house.
14thColony (640 posts) Tue Mar-10-09 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #107
126. Somebody needs a hug!
treestar (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-10-09 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #107
130. So if the British employees of Wal mart in Britain
Had never heard of the US, you'd understand? Though this is imaginary, since there are not going to be any such people in any country.
Why is it arrogant to think people should know the existence of a country? Especially the UK. We are the direct descendant of that country!
You'd probably be offended if you went to France and found nobody speaking English.
I have been to France. They do speak English but you have to beat it out of them. :-)
Stevenmarc (467 posts) Tue Mar-10-09 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #107
133. Someones blue smock is tied a little too tight.
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UK, how can I name thee? Let me count the ways;
JackRiddler (1000+ posts)
Mon Mar-09-09 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #31
79. If you're going to correct, you have to get it right.
Let me guess: Wikipedia?
Your definition of England is vague at best, though I'd call it plain wrong: What does "political entity" mean? What does "within all of the above" mean?
England is a country on the island of Great Britain, as are Scotland and Wales. It is a nation, a territory, a people. One might view the state based in London as "a political entity within all of the above," but England is a country. (That each of the three countries of Britain has its own national football team provides a testament higher than religious writ.)
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (official title) probably covers the Channel Islands, but otherwise does not to my knowledge include "overseas territories, colonies, etc.," not even the ones where Britain still has sovereignty, like the Falklands. That would be the British Commonwealth, a loose association of all former territories of the British Empire.
Here's the pretty good Apple Computer (OSX) dictionary, QUOTE:
Great Britain is the name for the island that comprises England, Scotland, and Wales. The term came into official use in 1603, when King James I (who was also James VI of Scotland) acceded to the throne of England and Wales. Scotland joined this legislative union in 1707. The United Kingdom includes Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The British Isles include the United Kingdom and surrounding, smaller islands. The all-encompassing adjective British is unlikely to offend anyone from any of these places. Welsh, Scottish, and English should be used only if you are sure of a person’s specific origin.
England was conquered by the Romans in the first century ad, when it was inhabited by Celtic peoples. It was a Roman province until the early 5th century. During the 3rd–7th centuries Germanic-speaking tribes, traditionally known as Angles, Saxons, and Jutes, established a number of independent kingdoms here. England emerged as a distinct political entity in the 9th century before being conquered by William, Duke of Normandy, in 1066.
((WHO WAS - SHUDDER - A FRENCH VIKING!!! DIEU ET MON DROIT!))
arcadian (1000+ posts)
Mon Mar-09-09 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #1
31. Actually that's not correct.
Great Britain includes England, Scotland and Wales. It is an island.
The United Kingdom includes Great Britain and Northern Ireland and all overseas territories, colonies, etc.
England is a political entity within all of the above.
Terran (1000+ posts)
Tue Mar-10-09 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #86
149. Oh my god.
Could you be any more dense? British "dependencies" are not a part of the UK. Kinda like the US and Guam or Puerto Rico.
Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts)
Tue Mar-10-09 09:30 AM
Response to Reply #79
115. arcadian is absolutely correct
quibble over the definition of political entity all you like, but the original descriptions stands as valid.
MillieJo (129 posts)
Tue Mar-10-09 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #79
131. My passport says United Kingdom of Great Britain and
Northern Ireland....The UK or the United Kingdom is my country on international forms for goods or simply signing up for a forum like this, I am always from the United Kingdom..
On forms inside the UK, I am British which means that I am a citizen of Great Britain which means
England, Scotland or Wales. It is very confusing because we have so many names and that is without the
complication of The Isle Of Man which has an independent government but are still British Passport holders and non EU.
The Channel Islands are also complicated.
We also have the name The British Isles which is the name of the group pf Islands and does include The Isle Of Man and The Channel Islands, Ireland and The Scilly Isles etc.
Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts)
Tue Mar-10-09 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #152
157. Hmmm....I've had many a go round in a pub about that last question of yours.
It is apparently perfectly acceptable to say you are Scottish or Welsh, but if you are English you say you are British. Even though Scottish and Welsh people are also British. Seriously though. Watch the international news. If someone is a citizen of the United Kingdom and accomplishes something they will be identified as Irish, Scottish, Welsh or British. Not as common to see someone identified as English.
On the other hand, ask a visitor to the U.S. where he or she comes from and if he or she hails from one of the English counties they will say they are from England.
Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts)
Mon Mar-09-09 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #1
42. FAIL lol :)
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 04:24 PM by Cronus Protagonist
England is only PART of the UK. Great Britain refers only to the British Islands themselves. The United Kingdom includes the remaining territories like the Falkland Islands and Northern Ireland.
Yeah, all that and the dude at Wal-Mart is the nimrod? The turd in the punch bowl showed up;
Political Heretic (1000+ posts)
Mon Mar-09-09 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #1
72. Heh.... nimrod eh?
Doh!
What a bunch of elitist losers.
KC
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Reply #73: It's all Bush's fault. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5215931&mesg_id=5216872)
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treestar (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-10-09 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #107
130. So if the British employees of Wal mart in Britain
Had never heard of the US, you'd understand? Though this is imaginary, since there are not going to be any such people in any country.
Why is it arrogant to think people should know the existence of a country? Especially the UK. We are the direct descendant of that country!
You'd probably be offended if you went to France and found nobody speaking English.
Yes, because all you idiots at the DUmp know EVERY country on the face of the planet ...... right?
KC
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Reply #73: It's all Bush's fault. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5215931&mesg_id=5216872)
Oh my dear sweet Jesus.
Lorien (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-09-09 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #10
73. George W. Bush was our President. Twice.
We have loads of ignorant people here. Our public schools are pathetic. Our government serves the interests of corporations over the people, but the majority of the people care more about who will win the next installment of "dancing with the stars". Do we live in a society worthy of the admiration of the rest of the globe? I think that's highly debatable at this point.
Because a check out dude at Wal-Mart didn't know what a UK ID looked like?! These people are horrible.
KC
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Wal Mart cog has trouble with UK ID. Therefore, America = dumb. (plus story is likely made up)
UK PM Gordon Brown travels 8000 miles to see Obama and gets no press conference and the DVD of He’s Just Not That Into You (http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZGY4MDk4YjVhZTc4YWEyZWJlODYyY2U2M2VhNjM0Mjc=). (OK, DVD joke aside, this story is true)
Question. Which bothers DU more?
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I find it irritating when people there misuse the phrase "throwing stones at glass houses."
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The Smartest People On The InternetsTM respond...
Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-10-09 09:34 AM
Response to Reply #107
117. Whoa and a wow! Why are you assuming this is an "arrogant little prick?" Because he's British? Maybe he was frustrated and that's why he told his co-worker. Maybe he was bemused or mildly amused. Sounds to me like you're throwing stones while living in a glass house.
14thColony (641 posts) Tue Mar-10-09 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #107
126. Somebody needs a hug!
treestar (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-10-09 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #107
130. So if the British employees of Wal mart in Britain. Had never heard of the US, you'd understand? Though this is imaginary, since there are not going to be any such people in any country.
Why is it arrogant to think people should know the existence of a country? Especially the UK. We are the direct descendant of that country!
You'd probably be offended if you went to France and found nobody speaking English.
Stevenmarc (467 posts) Tue Mar-10-09 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #107
133. Someones blue smock is tied a little too tight.
MindPilot (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-10-09 11:29 AM
Response to Reply #107
140. It would be perfectly acceptable for "the minimum wage ****" to not know. But apparently your knee jerked before you got to the part about going two rungs up the management ladder. That means three people--a checker, a supervisor and a manager didn't know.
Knowing the answers to questions like "is this an acceptable ID?" is what front line retail supervisors are paid for.
And begging your pardon, but not knowing that the UK is real, qualifies as ignorance, sorry. And it is ****ing funny, because if I wasn't laughing, I'd be crying.
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According to policy, only US credentials suffice for age verification purposes.
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According to policy, only US credentials suffice for age verification purposes.
According to who's policy? Wal-Mart?
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Negative-500 bongs. Didn't even bounce.
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According to who's policy? Wal-Mart?
That is lame. Nobody wanted to blame leftwing government schools? they went into a tizzy over the definition of UK?
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(http://www.noveltyid.us/uk_driver_license.jpg)
Don't know if it's real?
http://www.noveltyid.us/united_kingdom.htm - Novelty ID. I'm well aware of Britain/England/the UK, but I wouldn't take it, either.