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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BadCat on March 07, 2009, 12:41:05 PM
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Mar-06-09 09:17 PM
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MEMO TO OBAMA- If You Are Serious About Fixing The Economy DISMANTLE the US Military Updated at 9:44 AM
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In two hours, the smooth new president, about whom Johnson pronounced himself “satisfied,†was going to address Congress.
I asked Johnson what he would say if Barack Obama sought his advice.
“I'm now going to lecture you about things you refuse to know,†Johnson said, channeling the imaginary conversation.
“I'm going to lecture you about history. History tells us there's no such thing as a successful democracy and also a successful empire. You can be one or the other – but you can't be both. If you are a successful empire, it will destroy your democracy. That's essentially why Britain gave up at the end of World War II. They concluded that just after defeating the Nazis, they couldn't continue to use Nazi methods. It wasn't well done, but they preserved their democracy.â€
Though dismantling the military may be political suicide, a third-rail far more electrifying than Social Security, Obama will have to face that task someday, Johnson said.
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/mar/02/1m2j...
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FFS! These DUchebags need to undergo death by the most violent and painful way possible.
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This is how they "support" those of us in uniform?
:bird:
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Teh stupid it hurts.
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-07-09 12:51 AM
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26. 737 U.S. Military Bases = Global Empire
Mr. Johnson has more common sense in his little pinky than the entire US military combined.
Empire kills democracy and creates many enemies. Why do you think we are so hated world-wide?
If someone had listened to the "ultra far left" commies years ago, we sure as hell wouldn't be in the place we are now.
First....**** you.
Second....Your little eurotwit socialist heavens would be apoplectic if we withdrew our umbrella of protection.
Third....As much as it may disdain someone,they really ought to go over to the island and read through at least some of that thread.
It is maddening but also shows very clearly the simple minded enemy from within that we have here.
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First....**** you.
Second....Your little eurotwit socialist heavens would be apoplectic if we withdrew our umbrella of protection.
Third....As much as it may disdain someone,they really ought to go over to the island and read through at least some of that thread.
It is maddening but also shows very clearly the simple minded enemy from within that we have here.
Isn't that exactly what happened when Bush said he planned on closing down a lot of bases a few years ago?
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That's about the stupidest thing I read from DU in the last 2 minutes.
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Dismantle the US Military is stupid. America would be defenseless and the Constitution clearly says we are to maintain one.
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I asked Johnson what he would say if Barack Obama sought his advice.
This is the DUmmy problem in a nutshell.
If they can just let go of Mr Johnson for a moment, and open their eyes. But no, 0bama's in office and they cling tightly to Mr Johnson and won't let go. I mean really, how much wisdom can a person squeeze out of Mr Johnson anyways?
Bottom line: Don't let your Johnson do your thinking for you!
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That's about the stupidest thing I read from DU in the last 2 minutes.
:lmao:
Hi-5
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You really want to save this country then here are some better ideas.
1. Dismantle welfare - Giving money to people that refuse to get a job and work when they can is as much slavery as it is anything else except legalized fraud and graft.
2. Dismantle the Democratic party - They long ago gave up on being the party of Teddy Roosevelt and John Kennedy. Now they are the party of Che' and Mao.
3. Restructure the tax system so that everyone pays into it. 50% of the people in this country are not paying anything at all but are getting a free ride.
4. Stay away from these so called stimulus packages. The average person can't buy his way out of debt so why does Steve Eurkels little brother think he can do it with tax dollars?
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It's funny, when you try to look up online how many bases the US Military has, the only things you see that have numbers are far left nutball sites that are qouting this military empire meme.
How many of you want to bet that a number of those "bases" are things like Embassies? :whatever:
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I wonder if they have any comment on the German Air Force having units at Ft. Bliss and Hollman AFB. Or the Singaporean AF with units in Grand Prarie, TX and Luke AFB...
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This is how they "support" those of us in uniform?
:bird:
You have my support. :bow:
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Mar-06-09 10:03 PM
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15. we don't need a military
All we have done with it is use it to take others resource. Hell we have enough nuclear bombs to kill the entire universe. We have become so in-human that we have no idea what life is really meant to be but we sure know how to end life.
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There are no words for that kind of stupidity :thatsright:
Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Mar-06-09 09:29 PM
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6. War is obsolete.
I seriously doubt there are going to be massive conflicts like we saw in the previous century. It's just not economically feasible any longer.
But we're addicted. When an economy is based to a large part on something, it's hard to eliminate that something.
I'm all for it.
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And the Great War was called The War To End All Wars.
chrisa (209 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-07-09 11:19 AM
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73. The US is nothing like those countries.
Edited on Sat Mar-07-09 11:20 AM by chrisa
1938 is too old. The battlefield has changed so much, even from the 60's.
Economies are tied together, especially with the US. World powers starting wars with eachother would be economic and political suicide.
"Our National Guard and Reserves are in no way capable of carrying out the defense of our national interests."
Like what? Murdering people for oil? Sending poor people to fight so that the rich can make a few extra bucks today? Defending our national interests sounds like the ideas of the British during the height of their imperialistic massacres.
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Just because international trade exists does not mean there will be no war, idiot :bird:
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The military that they hate is the reason they can sit there and write such stupid drivel.
If they ever get their wish of a totalitarian leftist regime they are in for a surprise.
Being comrades in beliefs doesn`t change the fact that they will soon be recognized as the same worthless,whining malcontents which would be of no use to the government.
That is when they will find out who really will make them disappear.
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If this is the deep, nuanced, and reflective thinking they are always preening about, those word must've become DemSpeak for shallow, binary, and simplistic.
:rotf:
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The NEA in action and deed.
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I wonder if these idiots realize that the current economic crisis is rapidly freezing international trade. The volume of things being transported anywhere in the world has plummeted, in a fashion very similar to late 1929 and 1930. Among other things, that is why nations are plowing money into banks as fast as they can. BBC is reporting the British government is buying up huge amounts of shares in banks, and the rate they are doing this is more than one a week. These are perilous times.
As far as Britian giving up it's empire? It couldn't have anything to do with the fact they had just fought a major war on three continents and exhausted both their manpower and their treasury could it? It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the USSR stirring up anti-colonial feelings in Britian's colonies could it? DUmmies can't think.
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The military that they hate is the reason they can sit there and write such stupid drivel.
If they ever get their wish of a totalitarian leftist regime they are in for a surprise.
Being comrades in beliefs doesn`t change the fact that they will soon be recognized as the same worthless,whining malcontents which would be of no use to the government.
That is when they will find out who really will make them disappear.
The Haliburton/Walmart/Target Dentention/Re-education Centers are ready and waiting for them....
Zero didn't cancel the contract....
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The Haliburton/Walmart/Target Dentention/Re-education Centers are ready and waiting for them....
Zero didn't cancel the contract....
I'm thinking about applying for a guard position at one of those places.
Prevailing wage and all the labor you can exploit and extort...
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Is there any way to get all of these traitors into one spot so we can rub them off the face of the earth?
Lord knows I am certainly ready to do so!
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Dismantle the US Military is stupid. America would be defenseless and the Constitution clearly says we are to maintain one.
It does? What part says that? [/du mode]
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Economies are tied together, especially with the US. World powers starting wars with eachother would be economic and political suicide.
Hey idiot, ya wanna tell that to AhmaWaanBeYourDad? He would like nothing more! He thinks if he can do that very thing, it will bring his 13th Imomma!
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This is how they "support" those of us in uniform?
can we question their patriotism now?
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can we question their patriotism now?
I have never questioned the patriotism of the DUmmies on Skin's Island. There is nothing there to question, their patriotism is non-existent.
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I live in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia and if the Navy alone pulled out of there a whole region would go under. Not to mention all the service members and civilian employees that would be out of a job.
So DUmmies tell me this. How would a few million people out of a job and crushing the economies that surround military bases help?
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can we question their patriotism now?
I never stopped.
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I wonder if these idiots realize that the current economic crisis is rapidly freezing international trade. The volume of things being transported anywhere in the world has plummeted, in a fashion very similar to late 1929 and 1930.
No. And neither do the idiots who are supposed to be running the Administration. They seem to be fully occupied devising new social programs and putting on pressers about them. No time for mundane things like the economy or foreign policy, and after all, Obama doesn't know jack about either one, and isn't comfortable having anyone around him who does.
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No. And neither do the idiots who are supposed to be running the Administration. They seem to be fully occupied devising new social programs and putting on pressers about them. No time for mundane things like the economy or foreign policy, and after all, Obama doesn't know jack about either one, and isn't comfortable having anyone around him who does.
There was a piece on Redstate.com to that effect last night. The Obamessiah is greatly befuddled by foreign policy, and he neglects it--at his own, and the country's, peril.
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There was a piece on Redstate.com to that effect last night. The Obamessiah is greatly befuddled by foreign policy, and he neglects it--at his own, and the country's, peril.
Pfft...who has time for such trivial things as foreign policy when there's more important thnigs to do like slander Rush Limbaugh.
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I live in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia and if the Navy alone pulled out of there a whole region would go under. Not to mention all the service members and civilian employees that would be out of a job.
So DUmmies tell me this. How would a few million people out of a job and crushing the economies that surround military bases help?
The area around Ft Ord went into economic melt down when the Government closed that base. Thousands of civilian jobs lost, rental properties sat empty, restaurants and bars went out of business by the dozens.
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The area around Ft Ord went into economic melt down when the Government closed that base. Thousands of civilian jobs lost, rental properties sat empty, restaurants and bars went out of business by the dozens.
Get ready for a repeat after that butt blaster Barney Frank gets his way