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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: terry on March 05, 2009, 01:21:13 PM
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-03-09 08:03 PM
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Assholes who rape three-year-olds should be sent straight to hell
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Police say Yreka kidnap suspect sexually assaulted 3-year-old
The man accused of abducting a three-year-old Yreka girl from her home early Monday is being held today on suspicion of attempted murder and sexual intercourse with a child under the age of 10.
Kody Lee Kaplon, 22, is being held this morning at the Siskiyou County jail in lieu of $135,000 bail.
A media bulletin released today by the Siskiyou County Sheriff’s Department lists Kaplon’s potential charges as felony false imprisonment, child stealing, burglary, kidnapping, felony willful cruelty to a child, attempted murder and sexual intercourse with a child under 10.
Kaplon contacted Yreka police via an Amber Alert line around 2 p.m., to ask why police were looking for him, police said.
http://www.redding.com/news/2009/mar/03/police-say-yrek... /
Eryemil (533 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-03-09 08:54 PM
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41. Hmm? He's as human as you or me.
The fact that due to some stroke of bad luck his desires are incompatible with our society does not automatically makes him another species.
Eryemil (533 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-03-09 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #69
77. Whatever conditions that lead to their having an attraction towards children
Whether genetic or (most likely) developmental in origin paedophiliac orientation has proven impossible to treat so far.
I imagine the desire manifests like any other form of sexuality. Sexual desire is a very potent and influential motivator.
I think their situation is similar to that of closeted gay conservatives like Ted Haggard that engage in illicit acts with men.
Their way of life depends on their playing it straight, their whole culture identity depends on it but they can't seem to manage to keep it in their pants.
Eryemil (533 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-03-09 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #92
93. Most people don't, that's true enough.
I do not see the logic in your statement. Pedophiles are undoubtedly sexually attracted to minors.
There are scores of paraphilia just like it, with diverse sexual foci.
Eryemil (533 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-03-09 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #75
82. He broke a social contract, that's obvious enough
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 10:54 PM by Eryemil
But the people that have replied so far detailing all the manner of horrific tortures they'd like to perform on him disturb me just as much, if they actually mean it.
I understand in situations such as these people will say things like that as coping mechanism but it is still disconcerting.
Anyway. As I said, I am a moral relativist so there are a few assumptions in this thread that I find interesting.
1) The idea that crimes against a child are worse than those committed against an adult.
2) The concept of retribution in general.
3) The severity of specific punishments against those that break agreed-upon social contracts specifically.
4) The consensus of when and when not certain violent acts can be morally perpetrated upon others.
I would personally be content with isolating people such as him in a place where they can remain as content as possible without the access to children.
Ideally, treatment would be provided (if they so desired) but that is still out of reach.
mole poking the hive? or the genuine article that has just slipped all the way down the slippery slope?
link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5179076&mesg_id=5179076)
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Eryemil (533 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-03-09 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #75
82. He broke a social contract, that's obvious enough
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 10:54 PM by Eryemil
But the people that have replied so far detailing all the manner of horrific tortures they'd like to perform on him disturb me just as much, if they actually mean it.
I understand in situations such as these people will say things like that as coping mechanism but it is still disconcerting.
Anyway. As I said, I am a moral relativist so there are a few assumptions in this thread that I find interesting.
1) The idea that crimes against a child are worse than those committed against an adult.Chilren are more defenseless, asshole. I'd feel the same about crimes committed against retards like you.
2) The concept of retribution in general. I suppose you don't want Bush tried?
3) The severity of specific punishments against those that break agreed-upon social contracts specifically. Breaking those contracts against the most defenseless, calls for more severe punishment.
4) The consensus of when and when not certain violent acts can be morally perpetrated upon others. WTF does that mean?
I would personally be content with isolating people such as him in a place where they can remain as content as possible without the access to children.
Ideally, treatment would be provided (if they so desired) but that is still out of reach. Me too. Let's drop them in the river with cement shoes.
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Eryemil (535 posts) Wed Mar-04-09 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #135
138. I agree, something must be done about those that harm others
But I do not believe in punishment after the fact. It's pointless, expensive and indulgent.
As long as the offender can be kept from re-offending, that's enough for me.
I think idiots like you should be kept from breeding. ....or just executed. Either works for me.
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I would give 50-1 that this guy is a convicted child molestor.
Nice DU. Ya'll stay classy now, hear?
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Anyway. As I said, I am a moral relativist so there are a few assumptions in this thread that I find interesting.
1) The idea that crimes against a child are worse than those committed against an adult.
2) The concept of retribution in general.
3) The severity of specific punishments against those that break agreed-upon social contracts specifically.
4) The consensus of when and when not certain violent acts can be morally perpetrated upon others.
I'm guessing that would make you against hate crimes legislation then? And how about affirmative action? I'd think a "moral relativist" could see the dubious nature of rewarding those of certain races, genders, etc.?
Cindie
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I love this line by Eryemil.
"As long as the offender can be kept from re-offending, that's enough for me."
Can I bust a cap on Eryemil ? I promise not to re-offend.
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Eryemil (533 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-03-09 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #92
93. Most people don't, that's true enough.
I do not see the logic in your statement. Pedophiles are undoubtedly sexually attracted to minors.
There are scores of paraphilia just like it, with diverse sexual foci.
Let me phrase it better...
They are ******* pervs who molest children that can`t defend themselves.
Do that and you deserve to be executed.
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Let me phrase it better...
They are ******* pervs who molest children that can`t defend themselves.
Do that and you deserve to be executed.
I'd prefer some torture, but that's unconstitutional.
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I would personally be content with isolating people such as him in a place where they can remain as content as possible without the access to children.
I can get with the whole isolation thing. I'm thinking about 6 feet underground with a .45 in the back of the head. Never have to worry about him going after a kid again.
Ideally, treatment would be provided (if they so desired) but that is still out of reach.
Treatment with lead is indicated in the patients case. Delivered at high velocity.
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What the.....fu.....dge?
Eryemil (535 posts) Wed Mar-04-09 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #135
138. I agree, something must be done about those that harm others
But I do not believe in punishment after the fact. It's pointless, expensive and indulgent.
As long as the offender can be kept from re-offending, that's enough for me.
Does the eyeroll primitive believe in punishment before the fact then?
Or what exactly the Hades does this mean?
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I just read this and I have to go take a shower now.
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I'm guessing that would make you against hate crimes legislation then? And how about affirmative action? I'd think a "moral relativist" could see the dubious nature of rewarding those of certain races, genders, etc.?
Cindie
That's the first thing that popped in my mind as I was reading the OP.
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What the.....fu.....dge?
Does the eyeroll primitive believe in punishment before the fact then?
Or what exactly the Hades does this mean?
Holee crud. We've finally got a winner. The DUmmy that can bring the coach to the verge of profanity!
That there is some special feat. :bow: :mental: :loser:
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I would give 50-1 that this guy is a convicted child molestor.
Nice DU. Ya'll stay classy now, hear?
I'll take the 50-1 odds, 'cause I think this is a closet NAMBLA life member, trying desperately to keep his predillections from spilling out into his posts, for all te world to see.
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Eryemil (533 posts) Tue Mar-03-09 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #69
77. Whatever conditions that lead to their having an attraction towards children
Whether genetic or (most likely) developmental in origin paedophiliac orientation has proven impossible to treat so far.
I imagine the desire manifests like any other form of sexuality. Sexual desire is a very potent and influential motivator.
I think their situation is similar to that of closeted gay conservatives like Ted Haggard that engage in illicit acts with men.
Their way of life depends on their playing it straight, their whole culture identity depends on it but they can't seem to manage to keep it in their pants.
I disagree. A length of rope around the neck and a short drop cures the problem every time 100% guaranteed.
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With The Heiress in my life (and watching Wow Wow Wubbzy! right now), if anyone tries to harm any child in my presence, I'll draw a smiley face on them . . .
. . . with a .30-30 (Maybe a .30-06 supporting it).
Do it to my daughter, and I'll draw that :) with a 12 gauge and slugs.
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God I wish I hadn't read that crap.
I feel sick now.
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God I wish I hadn't read that crap.
I feel sick now.
Tx, read an Ann Coulter column. It should do wonders.
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I have a genetic predilection for see pedos pulverized with a 3lbs hammer.
Will Sir Shitbag defend my genetic predisposition?
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How many people on DU are registered sex offenders or are in prison, but have Internet access?
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How many people on DU are registered sex offenders or are in prison, but have Internet access?
That's the $64,000 question. I wouldn't doubt there's quite a few of the active members the the DUmp who have engaged in some type of sexual act with a child.
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I'll take the 50-1 odds, 'cause I think this is a closet NAMBLA life member, trying desperately to keep his predillections from spilling out into his posts, for all te world to see.
Did I screw up the phrasing there?
I'm not a gambler.
I meant I would bet 50$ to any one's 1$ that this a-hole is on the sex offender registry where he lives.
Either that or he's a ****ing retard who needs to be kept away from children. Or capped 'hind the ear.
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I disagree. A length of rope around the neck and a short drop cures the problem every time 100% guaranteed.....or we'll pay for the rope.
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these are the same retards that were calling Limbaugh a pedophile (with NOTHING to back it up) yesterday...
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these are the same retards that were calling Limbaugh a pedophile (with NOTHING to back it up) yesterday...
Well, that's different, apparently...
I don't exactly understand it myself.
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Eryemil I hope you die by being raped by a freaking rabid elephant you stupid piece of shit. I hope you choke to death on a crowded street while someone films it for you tube. I hope you hang yourself but then live as a brain damaged vegetable who gets raped weekly by the entire psycho ward they put you on.
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these are the same retards that were calling Limbaugh a pedophile (with NOTHING to back it up) yesterday...
Makes you wonder how many stances the dumba**es can have on one subject, doesn't it? My guess is as many stances as convenient.
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Did I screw up the phrasing there?
I'm not a gambler.
I meant I would bet 50$ to any one's 1$ that this a-hole is on the sex offender registry where he lives.
Either that or he's a ******* retard who needs to be kept away from children. Or capped 'hind the ear.
Of course, the other is that he is the mom's boyfriend and not this child's father. That is probably the more common theme.
Amongst mammals, it is often the case that the mom's new partner will want to get rid of her offspring from another partner. As our society has become more base and social mores have broken down, we could be seeing that humans behave just like animals when the need not to is not impressed upon them.
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What the.....fu.....dge?
Does the eyeroll primitive believe in punishment before the fact then?
Or what exactly the Hades does this mean?
please tell me Eyremil is not supposed to mean Irish Military.
punish them before the fact. if their leftists that means lifetime torture.
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Eryemil (533 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-03-09 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #2
41. Hmm? He's as human as you or me.
Actually the DUmbass had it right. A child rapist is on the same level of humanity as your average DUmmy.
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I know what these DUmmies are and how they think, yet, they always find a way to surprise me even more. I would wonder how these people would feel if it happened to one of their children, but than I see the father of Marc Goldberg (he was the kid who went to Irag and had the video of himself being beheaded by Islamic Fascist posted all over the internet) become a muslim sympathizer.
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I think the statement "die in a fire" applies. :bird:
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Eryemil (533 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-03-09 08:54 PM
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41. Hmm? He's as human as you or me.
The fact that due to some stroke of bad luck his desires are incompatible with our society does not automatically makes him another species.
A couple of suggestions you twisted POS:
1) Go ask that child whether the person who raped her is "human" or a "monster".
2) Put yourself into a situation where you can experience what this child felt. As an adult the equivalent would probably be a violent gang rape that leaves you beaten, bloodied, and terrified beyond what you ever thought possible.
Then come back and tell everyone how "relative" a sexual preference is. When it's you who spends years wonder if you'll ever feel normal or clean, when you jump every time a door slams, who doesn't want to be touched even by someone who loves you, see if you think just has been served if some judge pats your rapists on the head and says "Stroke of bad luck there mate, eh? Well, perhaps someday society will be able to recognize your need to stick your dick into children. We don't think you're bad, just different! So we aren't going to punish you...we're sending you to an island paradise where you can spend your days fantasizing about your dream date with a six year old with like-minded peers." Then tell me whether that feels like justice to you.
Rape isn't about sex. I'd think someone as intellectual as you're pretending you are would understand that. It's a power trip that is foisted upon people weaker than they as an ego stroke. ****ing children isn't a "lifestyle choice". You know what? I don't even care if it's a sickness. If you want to be all scientific and intellectual about it let's just decide to delete them from the gene pool, okay?
Cindie
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I think the statement "die in a fire" applies. :bird:
He can rot in Hell along with Osama bin Laden and Joseph Stalin. Talk about worthless right there!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-03-09 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #88
100. Ding Ding Ding
Thank you. I have a three year old daughter, and I agree almost 100% with Eryemil. Obviously, of course, if this had happened to my daughter, I'd WANT to kill the guy, but ultimately I'm glad that our society doesn't operate through such desires. The whole point of having a well-constituted criminal justice system is to remove the act from the private sphere of an exchange between victim and perpetrator, and into a public sphere of reason. Nothing has set back criminal law in this country more than the lunatic victim's rights movement, which is essentially pre-modern and retrograde in its founding assumptions.
The punishment fetish on this board is itself a pathology. In a civilized society, the punishment for a crime is the deprivation of freedom, not physical attack and torture.
Wow. When I posted the OP I thought Erymil was the only one and he/she/it was being challenged by everyone else.
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In a civilized society, the punishment for a crime is the deprivation of freedom, not physical attack and torture.
The Greeks and Romans are supposed to be the very models of "civilization," and look at their systems of punishment.
Nice try though.
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My daughter was molested by one of my "friends" when she was eight! The only reason that POS is still breathing is because my daghter begged me not to go to jail!
I still have nightmares over it. I trusted this man with my most cherished possesion and he did something he knew I would kill him for. As far as I am concerned, if you put hands on a child in a sexual nature, it should be a death sentence. I think it has been worse than death for me......
The only thing I am thankful for is that he did not have intercourse. Still, I blame myself for ever putting her into that circumstance! I trusted this man! I thought he was my best friend!
Even though my daughter has moved on, and assures me she has no repercussions, I cannot ever stop believing that it was my fault!
Every ped needs to have his life terminated! No ifs, ands, or buts! Period!!!!!!
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My daughter was molested by one of my "friends" when she was eight! The only reason that POS is still breathing is because my daghter begged me not to go to jail!
I still have nightmares over it. I trusted this man with my most cherished possesion and he did something he knew I would kill him for. As far as I am concerned, if you put hands on a child in a sexual nature, it should be a death sentence. I think it has been worse than death for me......
The only thing I am thankful for is that he did not have intercourse. Still, I blame myself for ever putting her into that circumstance! I trusted this man! I thought he was my best friend!
Even though my daughter has moved on, and assures me she has no repercussions, I cannot ever stop believing that it was my fault!
Every ped needs to have his life terminated! No ifs, ands, or buts! Period!!!!!!
I am a survivor of childhood sex abuse. I agree that all pedophiles should be killed.
It took me 30 years to even admit to anyone that I was a victim. Yes, a child can move on; kids are pretty resilient. But a victim NEVER forgets.
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I am a survivor of childhood sex abuse. I agree that all pedophiles should be killed.
It took me 30 years to even admit to anyone that I was a victim. Yes, a child can move on; kids are pretty resilient. But a victim NEVER forgets.
It's been 35 years......I will not..nor can I ever forget.....and I still have problems talking about it.
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It's been 35 years......I will not..nor can I ever forget.....and I still have problems talking about it.
The first few times I talked about it... It was very diffiicult for me too. But after I finally "broke the ice" and began to talk about it, it became bit easier. It's still not easy, but it's not as hard to discuss as it used to be.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-03-09 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #88
100. Ding Ding Ding
Thank you. I have a three year old daughter, and I agree almost 100% with Eryemil. Obviously, of course, if this had happened to my daughter, I'd WANT to kill the guy, but ultimately I'm glad that our society doesn't operate through such desires. The whole point of having a well-constituted criminal justice system is to remove the act from the private sphere of an exchange between victim and perpetrator, and into a public sphere of reason. Nothing has set back criminal law in this country more than the lunatic victim's rights movement, which is essentially pre-modern and retrograde in its founding assumptions.
The punishment fetish on this board is itself a pathology. In a civilized society, the punishment for a crime is the deprivation of freedom, not physical attack and torture.
YOU are a friggin idiot.
Assumptions?? Try having the killer of my BIL (DUI) walking free for a year, his wife being harrassed: bottles thrown at her house, strange black men "hanging out" in front of her house, threats being made, and the DA tells her, just be quiet, don't raise a stink, or your case will be out-the-door.
**** you. :bird:
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Wonder if acibades' attitude would be the same if it was his (her?) 3 year old daughter who was molested? Wonder how he'd explain his defense of the sick **** who molested her to his/her daughter 10, 20, 30 years down the road. While she's still trying to cope, trying to figure out why her relationships never works, why she jumps every time a door slams, how she lives with a constant foreboding, a fear always with her in the back of her mind. I wonder how he explains away why it's okay for her to be punished for the rest of her life, but it would be unfair to do the same to the one who forever stole her innocence? It's easy to be theoretical when something hasn't touched your life.
Cindie
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Wonder if acibades' attitude would be the same if it was his (her?) 3 year old daughter who was molested? Wonder how he'd explain his defense of the sick **** who molested her to his/her daughter 10, 20, 30 years down the road. While she's still trying to cope, trying to figure out why her relationships never works, why she jumps every time a door slams, how she lives with a constant foreboding, a fear always with her in the back of her mind. I wonder how he explains away why it's okay for her to be punished for the rest of her life, but it would be unfair to do the same to the one who forever stole her innocence? It's easy to be theoretical when something hasn't touched your life.
Cindie
H5! Couldn't have said it any better! I know my daughter "says" she has moved on, but many of the things you descibe still haunt her!
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My daughter was molested by one of my "friends" when she was eight! The only reason that POS is still breathing is because my daghter begged me not to go to jail!
I still have nightmares over it. I trusted this man with my most cherished possesion and he did something he knew I would kill him for. As far as I am concerned, if you put hands on a child in a sexual nature, it should be a death sentence. I think it has been worse than death for me......
The only thing I am thankful for is that he did not have intercourse. Still, I blame myself for ever putting her into that circumstance! I trusted this man! I thought he was my best friend!
Even though my daughter has moved on, and assures me she has no repercussions, I cannot ever stop believing that it was my fault!
Every ped needs to have his life terminated! No ifs, ands, or buts! Period!!!!!!
Sorry to hear that. Child molesters and pedophiles are the scum of the Earth besides Communists, Nazis, Bleeding Hearts, and Terrorists. They got a spot in Hell.
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I am a survivor of childhood sex abuse. I agree that all pedophiles should be killed.
It took me 30 years to even admit to anyone that I was a victim. Yes, a child can move on; kids are pretty resilient. But a victim NEVER forgets.
Sorry to hear that. That really sucks. And yes pedophiles must die and rot in Hell along side with Osama bin Laden and Fred Phelps.
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I am a survivor of childhood sex abuse. I agree that all pedophiles should be killed.
It took me 30 years to even admit to anyone that I was a victim. Yes, a child can move on; kids are pretty resilient. But a victim NEVER forgets.
I can't say what it is to be sexually abused. I can only answer what it is to physically and mentally abused. I think they may be close to the same, but I do not know. The medical condition that caused my family to abuse me also led to me being a social outcast, it's outward manifestation was that bad. It started when I was 6 and ended when the problem was realized and corrected when I was 12
I remember the years of abuse of hiding the bruises, scars, and cigarette burns. Of never feeling that I would be worth anything, that nothing I did would ever be any good, or merit anyone's approval. It still affects me to this day, but at least I recovered enough to shake those feelings, even if that did take years.
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I am sorry some of you have been molested, or know someone who has. Please accept my sincere sympathy. That is horrible.