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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on February 26, 2009, 12:38:34 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5137470
Oh my.
In case anyone isn't aware, Playboy Pedro's comments and bonfires on Skins's island are my "home page;" it's something to look forward to when one turns on the computer every time.
It's kind of like reading the funny papers before the front page or the sports pages.
Atman (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-25-09 11:09 PM
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Nancy Pelosi is guilty as sin
It will all come out. Watching her on Rachel Maddow now...flopping around like a gasping fish on a dry dock. She's known about Bush's crimes since day one, which is why "impeachment is off the table."
Try her along with Bush.
Enrique (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-25-09 11:13 PM
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2. is Obama guilty too?
maybe more guilty, since he seems more reluctant than Pelosi to investigate now?
Atman (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-25-09 11:18 PM
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5. I guess we'll find out some day.
It's almost Shakespearean.
Torgo Johnson (778 posts) Wed Feb-25-09 11:17 PM
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4. I guess impeachment has to be off the table...since he is no longer in office.
Atman (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-25-09 11:20 PM
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Actually, no...Bush and Cheney can still be impeached.
Really.
See? I told you, it's like reading the funny papers.
DeepBlueC (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-25-09 11:20 PM
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6. I take her at her word
I know what she says about proscriptions on speaking about classified briefings to ANYONE to be true. There was quite a bit of discussion about this from others. It is a devilish restriction which muzzles them with the full force of law.
Atman (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-25-09 11:38 PM
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14. Here is my argument with that argument
If you, me or Nancy Pelosi sits in on a meeting in which CRIMINAL CONDUCT IS DISCUSSED, you can claim anything you want including a special blessing from The Pope, but since it is CRIMINAL, it's not rendered legal simply by the criminal himself simply saying "you can't talk about it."
Pelosi is purported to be an intelligent woman. Which is why I suspect she's guilty as sin. No one speaking from the heart has so much trouble getting the words out. She was relying on linguistic gymnastics to distance herself from the BushCo policies she was made very aware of.
Point being; if Pelosi were to indeed reveal a high-level government crime, she wouldn't have to worry about the rules BushCo made up...she'd only have to rely on the Constitution and the rule of law. IOW, "I was just revealing criminal behavior which was discussed with me." She'd be absolved. This "classified briefings" bullshit is bullshit. They'd have to deal with two trials, or maybe three if you include the court of public opinion. Because once the truth is revealed by a somewhat respected House Speaker, a National Security trial in any venue would take on a strange twist. Because the information would have already been made public by a patriotic American.
THAT'S THE POINT.
If Nancy thinks, "yeah it was super-duper important to the world but I wasn't allowed to talk about it," then she's a ****ing idiot. Her duty is to talk about it. Her duty is/was not to protect the self-proclaimed powers of the executive, Bush, Obama or otherwise. Her duty is supposed to be to the country.
Sinistrous (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-26-09 12:10 AM
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19. That's an intersting picture you paint.
Too bad it doesn't reflect anything in the real world.
Ha ha Playboy Pedro.
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I for one am very glad that George W.Bush is relatively speaking a young former President because it means these idiots will suffer their self imposed torture of mind and soul over him for a very long time.
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"Pelosi is purported to be an intelligent woman"....and those that purport, my friends, must be the same people that administer IQ tests to DUmmies.