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MCCAIN TO CONSERVATIVE CRITICS: 'JUST CALM DOWN'
By CARL CAMPANILE
PHOENIX RISING:John McCain, with Joe Lieberman (left), basks in victory at home in Phoenix yesterday.
February 7, 2008 -- Republican presidential front-runner John McCain yesterday urged his right-wing critics to "calm down" as he tried to persuade wary conservative activists to back his candidacy.
"I do hope that at some point we would just calm down a little bit and see if there are areas that we can agree on for the good of the party and for the good of the country," said McCain, referring to radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh, following his coast-to-coast Super Tuesday victories.
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And McCain - tongue-in-cheek - tried to make peace with the shock jocks:
"I think they've made their case against me pretty eloquently."
With the nomination for the White House near, McCain today will give an important speech to 6,000 members of the Conservative Political Action Committee in Washington, DC.
McCain has won crucial primaries mostly with support from liberal-to-moderate Republicans and independents - but just a sliver of conservatives.
The McCain camp realizes he can't win the general election against Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Obama if he fails to inspire conservatives to vote for him.
McCain skipped the CPAC conference last year, which rankled organizers.
"We all share common conservative principles. We should coalesce on the issues we agree on," he said.
But McCain said it's unrealistic to expect agreement on every issue. He added, like Reagan, it's important to reach out to independents and Democrats to get things done.
Highlighting his problem with the conservative cognoscenti, Limbaugh pounded McCain on his show yesterday.
"McCain thinks he can thumb his nose - poke a stick in the eye of conservatives - and not pay a price for it," he said.
Meanwhile the McCain camp released a memo yesterday suggesting that Mitt Romney should quit the race because it's almost mathematically impossible for him to catch McCain in delegates.
Romney and Mike Huckabee said they will plow ahead, despite the long odds.
carl.camapnile@nypost.com
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02072008/news/nationalnews/mccain_to_conservative_critics__just_cal_567613.htm
there's Lieberman on the trail with McCain again yesterday... :popcorn:
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Given his temper I would say that he should practice what he preaches.
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I wouldn't exactly call Limbaugh and Hannity "Shock Jocks." :whatever:
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Yes, John McCain, "The Portrait of Temperance".
(http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1981/mccainangry1au.jpg)
:whatever:
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I don't doubt he can beat either Hitlery or Osama, however that is not going to make November suck any less.
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I don't doubt he can beat either Hitlery or Osama, however that is not going to make November suck any less.
I'm sorry, DAT, but I must disagree......McCain is the darling of the MSM today, but when the nomination is sown up, the press will beat him like a "rented mule"......they will turn on him like a pack of rabid dogs......
We will have to suffer through the Keating Five business over and over, as well as every other controversial stand that he has ever made......
I think he will lose big in November......I might be wrong, but this reminds me of 1996 all over again......
doc
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^me too. It worries me. I'm thinking that Barackstar may end up in the white house. Our only hope is to keep the power in check.
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Maybe if we had Shrillery or the Obamanation in for four years, we conservatives will learn to pick a REAL conservative and STICK TO HIM.
Remember, we had to put up with Carter before we got Reagan.
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^Which means my timeline for personal safety and financial security just got pushed way up.
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^Which means my timeline for personal safety and financial security just got pushed way up.
That is why God invented guns and offshore bank accounts.....
doc
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Tell me about it! :-)
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Maybe if we had Shrillery or the Obamanation in for four years, we conservatives will learn to pick a REAL conservative and STICK TO HIM.
Remember, we had to put up with Carter before we got Reagan.
Which is precisely my point for saying that the 'conservatives' who picked McCain deserve 4 years of Hillary.
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Bushes Sr. and Jr. both campaigned as conservatives. Both of them took a left turn once they got into office.
I don't expect things to be any different this time.
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Senator...with all due respect...just calm down on this :bird:
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I don't doubt he can beat either Hitlery or Osama, however that is not going to make November suck any less.
I'm sorry, DAT, but I must disagree......McCain is the darling of the MSM today, but when the nomination is sown up, the press will beat him like a "rented mule"......they will turn on him like a pack of rabid dogs......
We will have to suffer through the Keating Five business over and over, as well as every other controversial stand that he has ever made......
I think he will lose big in November......I might be wrong, but this reminds me of 1996 all over again......
doc
Doc, I think he 'can' beat either of them, not that he necessarily will. Much depends on how much the two Donks kick and bite each other before we get to the end. While I think it is very unlikely they could go on the same ticket after all the bloodletting (most of which is still to come) I think if they do, we're toast, since their negative demographics would cancel out.
My politically incorrect analysis:
McCain:
Strong with the hotly-contested social moderates, however these are a largely-indifferent-to-anything-except-what's-for-dinner group and being for a decisive conclusion to the Iraq war doesn't play well with them because, well, it's decisive, which is the antithesis of their world view.
Weak with Social and Fiscal Conservatives, though most of them may be able to hold their noses and force themselves to vote for him, however unenthusiastically, though a lot of that depends on what transpires between now and November.
Obama:
Strong with the far Left, or at least a lot stronger with it than anyone else. The guy has great charisma, basically ten times what any other candidate does, and the press is in love with him, despite the fact he is absolutely clueless; no platform, no ideas, just a Presence...but therefore an absolutely formidable candidate across many demographics in our mediacentric culture. His ability to bring the Black vote doesn't add anything in the general election since it's a Dem plantation bloc anyway.
Weak with Hispanics, who as a demographic aren't keen on Blacks, which is a problem since the Hispanics (outside of parts of Florida) are a Dem plantation vote. Will they go over to McCain, who is slack on immigration? Could be, they're likely to at least be neutralized as a bloc over this though. White blue collar Dem working class voters are also a lot more unenlightened about the whole race thing for my dollar than anyone wants to admit, but that appears to be a Forbidden Zone for anyone to actually say out loud.
Hitlery:
Strong with women, and of course with Hispanics over Obama. Also no real platform or ideas put forward, but out of calculation rather than incomprehension. If she can find something that 66% of the population really wants, she will be 100% for it and will produce evidence that she has always held that position and in fact comes from a line of people who are hereditary believers in it...even if that thing was batshit crazy and laced with obvious self-destroying logical flaws. Like Obama, however, she is likely to find out that the lowest tier of Democrats are not nearly so enlightened as the party leadership wants to think, except in this case it involves sexism rather than racism.
Weak with Blacks in the end if she tears into Obama tooth and nail to win the Primaries, a counterpoint to Obama's Hispanic problem; easy to hate since she is so transparently manipulative and ill-tempered (the cackle hardly counts as a show of good humor). Not clear how many more times she can play the crying card without looking too PMSy to be entrusted with the nukes but it plays well with a majoirty of women which is basically setting men's perception of them back about 40 years.
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I read an interesting blog about Obama last night that started off..."If Bill Clinton can be the first black president.. then Obama can be the first woman president..." :-)
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"I do hope that at some point we would just calm down a little bit and see if there are areas that we can agree on for the good of the party and for the good of the country,"
How about we hear you're explanations on the areas we DON'T agree on, jackass!!!! You're suppose to represent US, not the other way around. YOU answer to US!!!! God help us these next four years.
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He's preaching "come together on things we can agree on" trying to woo the right side of the party. Sorry McLame, but aside from the surge, there's not much we agree with you on. We like our taxes cut and our borders protected. We like the fact that terrorists caught on the battlefield are not getting treated at Gitmo like it's a Club Med... we don't think judges like Samuel Alito are "too conservative", and we'd only "reach across the aisle" to try to smack some damn sense into the libs!
Screw off, you won't get my vote this November.
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November might as well be in the year 2107. He's banking on everyone forgetting about his past and hoping that his last little speech is all we remember.
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He's preaching "come together on things we can agree on" trying to woo the right side of the party. Sorry McLame, but aside from the surge, there's not much we agree with you on. We like our taxes cut and our borders protected. We like the fact that terrorists caught on the battlefield are not getting treated at Gitmo like it's a Club Med... we don't think judges like Samuel Alito are "too conservative", and we'd only "reach across the aisle" to try to smack some damn sense into the libs!
Screw off, you won't get my vote this November.
Preachin' to the choir, bro....he won't get mine either.....
doc
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DAT, that's a very good summary of each candidate. However, I think that Hitlery does have issues on her socialistic platter. They just aren't the same ones as ours. They want "free" healthcare and the government to take care of that/them that way, and they want something done about "global warming" :mental:
You don't hear too much caterwauling coming from them anymore about the war in Iraq, because we are winning, so that has become a moot point now for them.
The DUmmies don't give a flip about illegal aliens like us conservatives do, because they know that their votes will one day bolster their party and further their agenda. So much for their love of the Constitustion, justice, and the law.
Their MO has always been to be as negative about something, even if it is imagined, until they have convinced enough people with their smoke and mirrors trick that it is real, beating people into their submission. They do this by having control of the MSM and cramming it down everyone's throats.
Hitlery's strategy has been to denigrate this administration (which is really retarded, since it is leaving regardless of who is in next) and to sweeten people's ears with the hopes of socialized healthcare. In other words, she is thriving off of those scorned with Boosh and Co. and promises to pick up where Billary left off in 2000.
You're right on about Obama...he's got nothing other than his charm, and he really does have it which is why he is so appealing to the young and clueless crowd.
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The more I think about it, the more I think that Hitlery is allll about revenge and spiting us conservatives. It has to do with Al Gore losing in 2000. They still have that chip on their shoulders. I think this attitude of hers is why she comes off to me as such a malicious bitch.
It really looks like Obama might beat her out, and I really have been hoping that he does. Nothing would smack her right back in her ugly face than her being defeated by a first time senator, and by a minority nonetheless.
If he wins the presidency, I just don't expect hardly anything extraordinary out of him to get him a second term, which by that time the conservative party might have gotten their act together and found someone to do the job.
Of course, the Hitlery loyalists will be saying that Obama got elected because the election was rigged by diebold :lmao:
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The more I think about it, the more I think that Hitlery is allll about revenge and spiting us conservatives. It has to do with Al Gore losing in 2000. They still have that chip on their shoulders. I think this attitude of hers is why she comes off to me as such a malicious bitch.
Methinks you give Hillary waaaay too much credit......she, unlike her husband is a "true believer", and a socialist to the core......she is all about obtaining and consolidating POWER and nothing else....
To a megalomaniac like her, the past (like the 2000 election) doesn't exist, it is all about what can be done for her right now......people and events in the past are tools to shape her "today".
I'm no psychiatrist, but I would not be surprised if she were diagnosed as a "sociopath"......
doc
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Wow, I think you may be right, Doc!!! She IS an opportunist and self-serving. She is someone whose ends justifies their means, which explains why she stayed with and put up Bill's philandering and making a total fool out of her in the process.
I really haven't given her this much thought, and now I shall cleanse my mind of her :cheersmate: