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TwixVoy (698 posts) Mon Feb-23-09 12:23 AM
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McDonalds must be hell to work at
This Friday I went to McDonalds because I had run out of milk and couldn't have my typical cereal. I really needed something quick, but usually I would never go to McDonalds simply for health reasons.Coughbullshitcough
Anyway an employee had apparently gone to the bathroom. In the middle of the damn mcdonalds a manager started yelling
"Where did you go????!!!" to which he responded "I had to go to the bathroom" the manager started screaming "THAT'S IT YOUR ON LOCK DOWN FROM NOW ON! YOU STAND IN THIS SPOT AND DON'T MOVE GOT IT?" In the middle of other co-workers and customers. The manager was also reaching out his hands towards him and curling his fingers. (He was a good 10 feet away, but he was basically making angry hand gestures during his yelling storm)
I am a manager at a retailer and my ass would be shit canned if I had acted that way to an employee. Reading about the employee who got shot and denied workers comp doesn't surprise me. Looks like McDonalds likes to put on a friendly little clown face to the public, but treats employees worse than wal-mart.
Someone is trying to establish cred.
mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 01:11 AM
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14. Fast food joints aren't the only places that do that, all low wage jobs management
pretty much says and does what it wants. I worked 3rd shift at a self serve gas station in the late 70's. I was fired because the manager had a sick baby that cried all night and he came in pissed off at the world. My till was $100 short, he ran on the honor system where 2nd shift could cash their till out without you watching over their shoulder, but anyhow I got fired over it. Two weeks later one of the 2nd shift workers was caught stealing out of the till and on top of that it was discovered that he was on parole for the same thing at a retail store 2 years before said manager hired him.
But also working for a small machine shop we got told we could not leave our work stations unless we asked a foreman to use the rest room. Worker abuse has been an on going problem for low wage workers trapped in dead end jobs because jobs are scarce. The republicon way of doing business.
Pull the other one. It dispenses Cherry Slushies. :whatever:
brettdale (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 02:07 AM
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18. Worked there for three years in the early 90's
Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 02:09 AM by brettdale
I could tell you some horror stories, you wouldn't believe.
The highlight or lowlights
Physical assault
Not being paid for shifts worked
being clock out and telling to work
Being told to put the recycle bags in the same compacter with the non recycle bags.
Verbal assaults
cruelty
No breaks
working in over heated kitchen
being locked in freezers
made to work when sick
and all this would be on a good day.
THAT'S what happened to that kid we used to cram in the lockers!!!!
juno jones (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 07:10 AM
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19. This is the reason some of us advocate against eating at fast food or chain places like Olive Garden
Denny's, or TGIF.
Corporate treats it's employees badly. I've heard stories from other cooks who have worked these places and they would curl your ears.
My own Denny's expereience lasted three weeks (my only corporate experience besides three hours in a Burger King). The refrigeration had gone down on the line. Instead of shutting down like most Mom and Pops would do, we had to work even tho the refer guys were literally underfoot (the refers were under the counters). Basically I stopped a pan full of hot oil from falling on a tech. I got second and third degree burns on my arms for my pains AND THEY WOULDN'T LET ME LEAVE. Even off-shift, they didn't want me to go to a hospital as it would ruin their management bonuses for no accidents during the month (there were plenty, just never allowed to be recorded). I went in anyway after i could escape the shift and quit the next day.
Eat local, go to Mom and Pops, family-owned, and small local and regional chains. They treat their people far nicer and pay them better, I guarantee.
And don't get me started on the pre-fab, corporate factory stuff they serve at BK and OG. It comes from a factory, not from a cook, guys. In order to keep it all uniform they make it all in corporate factories and ship it frozen where the staff basically reheats it. You are eating the equivalent of frozen dinners and paying restaurant prices for the privlege.
Jesus H.
I learned how to cook working in a "Mom and Pop" restaurant run by a Greek guy who used to call us all retards and throw spatulas at our heads. He told me once that he had strangled better men than me during WWII. :-) And the oil story is pure bounce. No manager would risk a law suit against them and the company to avoid reporting an accident that would "ruin their management bonuses for no accidents during the month" :whatever: These frakwits jsut can't hack real jobs where people expect them to get off their poncy asses and, ya'know, WORK.
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Give me an effing break.
Do these sad sack,cretins really expect folks to believe that they would have put up with such nonsense without calling a lawyer or someone else that could get them out of working ever again if these things were true.
My God they fuss and whine over why there is air for heavens sake.
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When I worked minimum wage jobs, and I worked more than one in my younger days. They were desperate for workers that actually had 2 brain cells to rub together. Workers that weren't rude and obnoxious to customers, workers that actually showed up to all their assigned shifts at the appropriate time, workers that had good basic personal hygiene, etc were very hard to come by. Workers that aren't giving away the companies good and services to their friends were hard to come by.
Granted this was 30 years ago but I suspect it is still true for companies that employee minimum wage workers. I bet it is true in this sucky economy. I'm still seeing permanent help wanted signs in places that offer these jobs.
Any owner would be a complete idiot to abuse the employees or allow a manager to abuse.
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I learned how to cook working in a "Mom and Pop" restaurant run by a Greek guy who used to call us all retards and throw spatulas at our heads. He told me once that he had strangled better men than me during WWII. :-) And the oil story is pure bounce. No manager would risk a law suit against them and the company to avoid reporting an accident that would "ruin their management bonuses for no accidents during the month" :whatever: These frakwits jsut can't hack real jobs where people expect them to get off their poncy asses and, ya'know, WORK.
My wife is still wanting a German to English dictionary to figure out what the owners of the restraunt she worked at in Lampassas were saying to her when she screwed up. (this was when she was in High School).
To this day she thinks the only reason she never got fired when others did was because ...not knowing what they were saying...she'd just nod and say "ok" and go back to work.
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And the oil story is pure bounce. No manager would risk a law suit against them and the company to avoid reporting an accident that would "ruin their management bonuses for no accidents during the month"
This is actually the only part I believe of that story. You know how when you're cooking bacon and it kind of splatters up on you and you get those little 'pin prick' burns. Those are second and third degree but only a DUmmie would complain about them longer than a second. Hell toddlers get over little burns like that as soon as you show them a lollipop!
KC
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The only time I got in trouble for going to the bathroom was at Six Flags. I was a ticket taker for a month. Well, after the rush when the park first opens it's pretty slow. I had to go to the bathroom and there's one right on the side of the gate. I told my security guard and he said okay and closed the line. There wasn't a lead or supervisor anywhere. I wasn't gone long and when I got back the full time (bitch) was there yelling at me for going to the bathroom without clearing it first. Apparently I was supposed to shut my line, walk way into the back where the lead & managers are, get permission, then walk all the way back and go to the bathroom (which would have at least tripled the time I was gone). :whatever:
The full time got fired soon there after, and I transferred into customer service.
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AND THEY WOULDN'T LET ME LEAVE. Even off-shift, they didn't want me to go to a hospital as it would ruin their management bonuses for no accidents during the month (there were plenty, just never allowed to be recorded). I went in anyway after i could escape the shift and quit the next day.
Another Bouncy that would rebound like Play Dough!
Uh, Hey stupid! Just how the hell did they make you stay, at gunpoint? BS!!!!!!!!
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Give me an effing break.
Do these sad sack,cretins really expect folks to believe that they would have put up with such nonsense without calling a lawyer or someone else that could get them out of working ever again if these things were true.
My God they fuss and whine over why there is air for heavens sake.
It depends -- if the person being yelled at was a Straight White Christian Male, no lawyer would touch it. But you could always claim you are gay and never work a day in your life again.
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Being told to put the recycle bags in the same compacter with the non recycle bags.
:ohnoes:
:whatever:
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Lugnut, HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Truly cruel and unusual.
From that same list: Being locked in freezers? Oh come on. Then why are you still alive to post?
A fistful of pure bullshit, through and through.
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It depends -- if the person being yelled at was a Straight White Christian Male, no lawyer would touch it. But you could always claim you are gay and never work a day in your life again.
You can get PAID for being GAY?!?
:devious:
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You can get PAID for being GAY?!?
:devious:
Yeah but signing up to join them is a pain in the ass.
KC
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You can get PAID for being GAY?!?
:devious:
If you get yelled at in the middle of a crowded MacDonald's restaurant, hell yes. If you are a gay handicapped female black your whole family would never have to work again.
Or, you can bend over, spread the cheeks and ask for the standard donation.
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Yeah but signing up to join them is a pain in the ass.
KC
Apparently, the pain is somewhat mitigated if you BYOV.
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I put all this through the Jukin Bouncy to English Translator and it came out with the same result every time.
"The manager made me come to work, actually work, and do it 70% correct."
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dude. these are called low-end, entry-level jobs for a reason.
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This reminds me of when I was manager of a student union, the Reunion, on the University of Nebraska campus during the late 1980s, early 1990s. It was a privately-owned student union, owned by one of the big Democrats in Nebraska, the guy who later put a revolver into his mouth and pulled the trigger, after having been caught kiting $7,000,000 in checks.
Anyway.
My previous "job experience" had been in accounting, in the Nebraska State Department of Health.
I always noticed that the "management"--the assistant associate directors, the associate assistant directors, the assistant directors, the associate directors, the acting directors, the directors, &c., &c., &c.--upon coming to work would grab a newspaper or magazine and head for the men's room for some sitting-down business, sometimes being absent as long as half an hour, forty-five minutes.
Every single morning, five days a week.
Secretaries and clerks couldn't do that.
(disclaimer: my position was halfway between the two levels, sort of a "lone wolf" sort of job.)
This used to tick me off, because managerial people there were paid a lot of money, and lived in homes that boasted state-of-the-art bathrooms, while secretaries and clerks weren't paid very much, and lived in homes with only modest bathrooms.
I just never liked that; one should take a dump on his own time at his own place.
So when I became manager of the Reunion, I immediately issued two orders: (1) no sex in the Reunion and (2) no sitting down on the commode on company time.
Well, as for (2), I couldn't do much about the women employees, but I could at least enforce it for the male eimployees.
There was one engineering student, my right-hand man, now working for the U.S. Navy over in Maryland, who used to take care of things when I was not around. He had the most curious habit of getting fired by the owner, and then rehired by me, always at a higher rate.
One night, about 11:00 p.m., I went to the building, and couldn't find him.
I looked all around, coming finally to the men's room, where below the door one could see two shoes and dropped pants; his.
After he finished his business and came back to the office, I lambasted him about Rule (2).
He pointed out that his first class was at 7:30 a.m., and that he was in classes every day clear until 5:00 p.m., including what's normally taken for "lunch break," after which he had to be at the Reunion at 5:01 p.m. (the college of engineering was just across the street), staying there until 1:00 a.m.
I pointed out, again, Rule (2); no sitting on the commode on company time.
He protested there was no time to do such business.
I suggested he add more fiber to his diet, so as to retain it until he got home at night.
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Corporate treats it's employees badly.
This is the great myth of the DUmmie class, and proves that they have never held real jobs. I have worked for a number of small companies, a medium sized corporation, and one of the largest and most profitable corporations on the planet. With the exception of working for/with my brother-in-law on a two-man crew, the treatment I got, from worst to best, was directly proportional to the size of the enterprise. Corporations have HR departments, and rules of conduct to protect themselves from lawsuits brought by employees. It's in their best interest to treat employees well, because they have deep pockets.
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He pointed out that his first class was at 7:30 a.m., and that he was in classes every day clear until 5:00 p.m., including what's normally taken for "lunch break," after which he had to be at the Reunion at 5:01 p.m. (the college of engineering was just across the street), staying there until 1:00 a.m.
I pointed out, again, Rule (2); no sitting on the commode on company time.
He protested there was no time to do such business.
I suggested he add more fiber to his diet, so as to retain it until he got home at night.
you are an oppressor! poop for the people! I mean People Poops Props! never mind
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brettdale (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 02:07 AM
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18. Worked there for three years in the early 90's
Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 02:09 AM by brettdale
I could tell you some horror stories, you wouldn't believe.
The highlight or lowlights
Physical assault (bouncy)
Not being paid for shifts worked (extra bouncy)
being clock out and telling to work (extra bouncy with cheese)
Being told to put the recycle bags in the same compacter with the non recycle bags. (the horror!!!)
Verbal assaults :bawl:
cruelty (waaaaaah!!!)
No breaks (you don't get "breaks" in the restaurant business. If you've got time to lean, you've got time to clean.)
working in over heated kitchen (BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! IT'S A KITCHEN, YOU DOLT! IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HOT!)
being locked in freezers (nerd)
made to work when sick (see "no breaks" rule above)
and all this would be on a good day.
Too funny...
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Let's see,
I've observed two employees engaged in fist fight in a BK restauraunt.
I've seen workers draw pictures from soap suds using soap they were supposed to be cleaning with.
I've waited ten minutes at a drive through only to pull to the window and observe the cashier hastily rearranging her clothes, there were only three people. all workers, in the store.
I've tried to order at a McDonald's in Alexandria, only to have the cashier ask the person behind her (in Spanish) "What does this white boy want?"
I've been seated at a table at Denny's that was sopping wet. I know because after asking the waitress to dry it, I gave up and got the towel from behind the counter and dried it myself. She asked how I wanted to pay her tip.
I've had a waitress ask me if I voted for change (2004) and refuse to serve me when I said no.
Yet, according to the DUmp monkeys, these are the backbone of our economy.
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I've tried to order at a McDonald's in Alexandria, only to have the cashier ask the person behind her (in Spanish) "What does this white boy want?"
we must frequent the same McDonald's (or all the McD's in the DC area hire the same quality employees), because I've had similar experiences
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I used to visit a Jack in the Box in Dallas.
There was a certain white, crew cut dude who was the manager, I guess.
When he was there the place ran with military precision and the orders were perfect.
When he was not there, probably should not bother going.
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I've tried to order at a McDonald's in Alexandria, only to have the cashier ask the person behind her (in Spanish) "What does this white boy want?"
I know exactly which one you're talking about.