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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: LC EFA on February 22, 2009, 04:32:47 AM
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mia (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-09 02:03 AM
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How would you balance the Federal Budget and reduce
the National Debt?
In recent years, the US Federal Budget has dropped dramatically back into deficit. Once again, the National Debt is growing. It is now over $9 trillion.
If you are a US citizen, your share of the National Debt is over $30,000. You pay interest on this debt, through your taxes, every year. The generation that is now too young to vote will pay interest on this debt -- even though they never borrowed the money.
How would you balance the Federal Budget and reduce the National Debt? Explore the complete US Federal Budget to find your own solutions to these problems.
http://www.kowaldesign.com/budget /
My direct experience is limited to the public schools. Before the winter break we we instructed to shut down all computers, air-conditioners and turn out the lights. I wonder why cost saving measures like these aren't required in the schools every night and in all government buildings when they aren't in use.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5107628
How indeed ....
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-09 02:30 AM
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1. Reverse everything Bush did starting with his $103 trillion tax cut when he
took office. Just do the opposite of everything he's done to put us into this mess since then. Then go back to the Clinton and Reagan administrations and gut those decisions, like breaking the unions and NAFTA passed in their administrations that have failed. Maybe then we can move forward with some FDR and Keynesian economic thinking instead of beating the dead horse of failed Milton Friedman economics. This guy's books and writings on his economic ideas seriously should be buried and a wake had for them.
This was one of the more rational posts...
alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-09 03:43 AM
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2. Invade the Cayman Islands etc.
The Swiss might get scared (hopefully).
The tax revenues from the offshore tax havens are my 1st step.....
Stay tuned.
You've gotta be shitting me.
alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-09 03:53 AM
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5. No, I mean INVADE.
They are transferring $$$$$$$$$ as we speak.
I would have cut off all lines of communication and INVADED w/ 2-3000 accountants behind 20-30 soldiers.
The Swiss... well- diplomacy needs to be involved.
Apparently not.
BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-09 03:55 AM
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6. Yah... I assumed you were kidding, of course...
Because that's the preferable assumption to make, rather than attribute a batshit stupid idea to you.
I apologize for my mistake - it won't happen again.
If even your fellow DU'ers can spot an idea that's way out there, it should be a sign.
alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-09 04:00 AM
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7. It's a hell of lot more profitable than invading Iraq.
They did nothing.
The Bahama banks are hiding/stealing at least 300 Bill. a year in tax revenue (I swear I saw that recently....).
They have no army, and our $$$$$$ has been stolen by their US clients.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
uh, yeah.
You weren't kidding.
DU , the bottomless well of insanity and stupidity.
FKA MNChimpH8R (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-09 03:49 AM
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4. Revoke every Chimp and Reagan tax cut on the parasites
Reduce military spending AT LEAST 50% and redirect the unemployed engineers into green transportation and energy research, subsidizing them if necessary for 5 years. Confiscatory income and estate taxation on anything 30 times the average wage, indexed to inflation. Akio Morita, the founder of SONY, never made more than $300K per year. Adjust/automatically index the rate over time.
Punish these pigs by throwing the last generation of people, and their families,who benifited more that $1-3 million a year at investment banks and hedge funds and the shitbag law firms that enabled them, at any time annually over the last ten years into the guillotine or, very, very slowly (1" at a time), into tree chippers. Repatriate every last penny they and their families received. Let them know this is not an end but a vision of the future. Sell their families into slavery as domestic servants in Saudi Arabia. Or just ****ing kill them. They are of less than zero benefit to society. I am not really kidding. Punishment of the most severe kind is the only kind that can deter this swinish and irresponsible behavior in the future. Let the parasites know that that there will be the most severe of possible consequences for their swinish behavior. There was much justice in the actions of Robespierre and Marat.
70-95% income taxation on every dollar over 30X the average worker's wage. Infinite taxation of any business that is not a family-owned small business or farm when it comes to "generational wealth transfers" that is sought to be transfered to any corporate entity not made up of famly members and remains a closely held business. No one should be able to inherit and live on a pile of money they did nothing to earn. Zero estate tax on recipients who continue operating their businesses or farms, which requires brains, unlike a trust fund, unless they sell out to a conglomerate. Then, the death penalty: 100% taxation. the creation of a phony aristocracy of accidently inherited wealth accumulated by the outright thievery by the "efforts" of previous generations (cough - the entire Bush family - cough) should be chopped off at its knees and the recipient parasites killed painfully and publicly. And replayed for years on television. The breaking wheel seems a good place to start.
People like you are why the mental health system needs forced lock down wards...
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-09 03:43 AM
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2. Invade the Cayman Islands etc.
The Swiss might get scared (hopefully).
The tax revenues from the offshore tax havens are my 1st step.....
Stay tuned.
I guess the DUmmies are not so anti-war now (as ludicrous as that idea is).
FKA MNChimpH8R (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-09 03:49 AM
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4. Revoke every Chimp and Reagan tax cut on the parasites
Reduce military spending AT LEAST 50% and redirect the unemployed engineers into green transportation and energy research, subsidizing them if necessary for 5 years. Confiscatory income and estate taxation on anything 30 times the average wage, indexed to inflation. Akio Morita, the founder of SONY, never made more than $300K per year. Adjust/automatically index the rate over time.
Punish these pigs by throwing the last generation of people, and their families,who benifited more that $1-3 million a year at investment banks and hedge funds and the shitbag law firms that enabled them, at any time annually over the last ten years into the guillotine or, very, very slowly (1" at a time), into tree chippers. Repatriate every last penny they and their families received. Let them know this is not an end but a vision of the future. Sell their families into slavery as domestic servants in Saudi Arabia. Or just ****ing kill them. They are of less than zero benefit to society. I am not really kidding. Punishment of the most severe kind is the only kind that can deter this swinish and irresponsible behavior in the future. Let the parasites know that that there will be the most severe of possible consequences for their swinish behavior. There was much justice in the actions of Robespierre and Marat.
70-95% income taxation on every dollar over 30X the average worker's wage. Infinite taxation of any business that is not a family-owned small business or farm when it comes to "generational wealth transfers" that is sought to be transfered to any corporate entity not made up of famly members and remains a closely held business. No one should be able to inherit and live on a pile of money they did nothing to earn. Zero estate tax on recipients who continue operating their businesses or farms, which requires brains, unlike a trust fund, unless they sell out to a conglomerate. Then, the death penalty: 100% taxation. the creation of a phony aristocracy of accidently inherited wealth accumulated by the outright thievery by the "efforts" of previous generations (cough - the entire Bush family - cough) should be chopped off at its knees and the recipient parasites killed painfully and publicly. And replayed for years on television. The breaking wheel seems a good place to start.
Does Skinner even care that violent torture fantasies such as this (from people who claim to be peace loving and tolerant no less) do more to defeat his cause than any moonbat talking point ever could?
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8. Wow, that's even better than the "invade the Cayman islands" one
Some kid happens to be descended from the wrong investment banker, you want them enslaved or dead? How broadly are we defining "family?" If I had a wealthy cousin should I die? Grandmother? Great aunt? Are genes the only connection, or are we killing the birth parents of adoptees as well?
C'mon, we've already established guilt by association, but I'm curious as to how close the association can get before someone's genes determine they have to die.
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Posteritatis, elimination of the bourgeois and their families is the end result of communism; your friend is reciting the same thoughts that any member of the NKVD would have. The desire to enforce collectivism by way of mass murder just goes to show that a strong belief in marxism can truly warp the human mind.
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"No one should be able to
inherit and live on a pile of money they did nothing to earn." ......YEAH!, I could go for that....cut out welfare, WIC, foodstamps, free housing, subsidized housing, free healthcare. etc. ....Hey! The budget is coming along just fine now.
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"No one should be able to inherit and live on a pile of money they did nothing to earn." ......YEAH!, I could go for that....cut out welfare, WIC, foodstamps, free housing, subsidized housing, free healthcare. etc. ....Hey! The budget is coming along just fine now.
:clap: :clap:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-09 02:30 AM
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1. Reverse everything Bush did starting with his $103 trillion tax cut when he
I assume Cleita is exaggerating for effect, or "trillion" is the newest buzz word from the Little Goons' Dictionary Of Ununderstood Words.
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"No one should be able to inherit and live on a pile of money they did nothing to earn." ......YEAH!, I could go for that....cut out welfare, WIC, foodstamps, free housing, subsidized housing, free healthcare. etc. ....Hey! The budget is coming along just fine now.
H5 for being dead-on target.
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FKA MNChimpH8R (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-09 03:49 AM
This moron is a direct descendent of Joseph Stalin.
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Mother Of GOD these people are insane. They would invade a nation that could no more defend itself from an invasion without help then and old folks home could stop a Hells Angels biker gang from taking over. And they got pissed because the US reaffirmed a cease fire agreement with the nation of Iraq and tossed Saddam out of power all for money to shrink the deficit? The words fail me
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Sooo. instead of addressing the issue, they advocate a bloody purge.
Once a purge starts, its really hard to stop.
I'm beginning to think that the democrats WILL follow the advice of Ayers.
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How would I balance the budget?
Eliminating Medicare and Social Security by privatizing them. We could balance the budget and call it a day by dinner.
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How would I balance the budget?
Eliminating Medicare and Social Security by privatizing them. We could balance the budget and call it a day by dinner.
And probably create jobs! :-) :-)
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Wait, I thought invading small, Caribbean Islands was "the beginning of American imperialism" according to Chomsky? Oh! but when it's done in the name of wealth redistribution it's a-ok...gotcha.
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Sooo. instead of addressing the issue, they advocate a bloody purge.
Once a purge starts, its really hard to stop.
I'm beginning to think that the democrats WILL follow the advice of Ayers.
But they gotta have an unarmed populace to prey on. Conservatives generally aren't unarmed, or as much as lefties.