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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: djones520 on February 21, 2009, 02:04:20 PM
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WillieW (519 posts) Sat Feb-21-09 03:00 PM
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You are more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-21-09 03:01 PM
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1. Cops ARE terrorists. State sponsored domestic terrorists.
panader0 (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-21-09 03:03 PM
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2. Wow. You're shitty.
uppityperson (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-21-09 03:03 PM
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3. You forgot the word "some". nt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5104394
I think that speaks for itself... :banghead:
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-21-09 03:01 PM
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1. Cops ARE terrorists. State sponsored domestic terrorists.
Translation: My mommy didn't breast feed me and then neglected me because I was so freaking stupid. I say things like this to get attention and for no other reason.
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Lesson: Don't **** with the cops.
:popcorn:
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In Texas, your more likely to be killed by an illegal alien than a terrorist.
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Translation: My mommy didn't breast feed me and then neglected me because I was so freaking stupid. I say things like this to get attention and for no other reason.
I think the Spartans were onto something...
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WillieW (519 posts) Sat Feb-21-09 03:00 PM
Original message
You are more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist
Yeah, considering that you DUmp monkeys are more likely to be involved in criminal activity - ranging from drug posession/distribution to assault and battery/domestic violence to robbery, fraud and a whole host of "wealth redistribution" crimes - than you would be to stand in harms way between the terrorists and your countrymen, I'd say that your odds of being killed by a cop are considerably greater.
Doesn't it just SUCK being a DUmmy? :rotf: :rotf: :fuelfire:
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I am not at all likely to be killed by a cop, because I am careful to stay out of trouble...and I am polite and respectful if I need to address a police officer. Try it next time, DUmmies! :-)
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I am not at all likely to be killed by a cop, because I am careful to stay out of trouble...and I am polite and respectful if I need to address a police officer.
I'm with you. Anytime I've ben pulled over, I'm as polite as one can get. I've generally considered that it's just not a good idea to argue with someone who can shoot me.
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Translation: My mommy didn't breast feed me and then neglected me because I was so freaking stupid. I say things like this to get attention and for no other reason.
Also, the offending DUmb****'s mommy obviously dropped said DUmb**** on the head too much.
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Lesson: Don't **** with the cops.
:popcorn:
Question, sir, you being an attorney.
In yesterday's afternoon newspaper, I read the police report, and there was one about a guy who was arrested for drunken driving, but refused to take the tests (blood-alcohol, breathing, urine, whatever it is they use).
Apparently refusing to take such a test is a right.....and apparently there are some who think there is a particular advantage to refusing to take a test.
What might those advantages be?
And USA4ME above is correct; politeness works.
I've been stopped by policemen before--generally usually always for not stopping at a STOP sign (I just slow down to a crawl, and then go on if it's clear [it's a habit in the lonely Sandhills]), but a couple of times for going 62 mph in a 35 mph zone, and 84 mph on a 60 mph highway (it's a habit in the carless highways of Nebraska)--but I've never gotten a ticket, not even a written warning.
The cop isn't out to "get" someone.
Truthfulness with a law-enforcement official works. I suggest the primitives try it.
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Question, sir, you being an attorney.
In yesterday's afternoon newspaper, I read the police report, and there was one about a guy who was arrested for drunken driving, but refused to take the tests (blood-alcohol, breathing, urine, whatever it is they use).
Apparently refusing to take such a test is a right.....and apparently there are some who think there is a particular advantage to refusing to take a test.
What might those advantages be?
And USA4ME above is correct; politeness works.
I've been stopped by policemen before--generally usually always for not stopping at a STOP sign (I just slow down to a crawl, and then go on if it's clear [it's a habit in the lonely Sandhills]), but a couple of times for going 62 mph in a 35 mph zone, and 84 mph on a 60 mph highway (it's a habit in the carless highways of Nebraska)--but I've never gotten a ticket, not even a written warning.
The cop isn't out to "get" someone.
Truthfulness with a law-enforcement official works. I suggest the primitives try it.
Coach, in NY, if one refuses a breath test, that's immediate suspension of one's driving license.
Also, as you said, politeness works. I was pulled over for a 73 in a 55 work zone on I-87 three months ago. I knew that the trooper was coming after me. So, I pulled over as soon as I could, which meant that I almost cut off an 18-wheeler. After I shut the car off, I pulled the keys from the ignition and put them on the dashboard above the instrument cluster. The work zone alone would have doubled my fine (probably a $300+ fine, total). The trooper noticed that I was polite, and apologetic that I nearly cut off the 18-wheeler, and noticed that I put my keys on the dashboard--thus signifying that I was no threat to mess with him. I got a seat-belt violation, and an $85 fine.
Their job is hazardous enough without me making it moreso. I may not be a rocket surgeon, but I'm just smart enough to defer to the guy with the Glock.
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Well , I never played a lawyer on TV that stayed at a Holiday Inn but I bet I am smart enough not to argue with some one who wears a gun. :bow:
I've known a lot of cops and showing common courtesy does carry a lot of weight.
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Question, sir, you being an attorney.
In yesterday's afternoon newspaper, I read the police report, and there was one about a guy who was arrested for drunken driving, but refused to take the tests (blood-alcohol, breathing, urine, whatever it is they use).
Apparently refusing to take such a test is a right.....and apparently there are some who think there is a particular advantage to refusing to take a test.
What might those advantages be?
And USA4ME above is correct; politeness works.
I've been stopped by policemen before--generally usually always for not stopping at a STOP sign (I just slow down to a crawl, and then go on if it's clear [it's a habit in the lonely Sandhills]), but a couple of times for going 62 mph in a 35 mph zone, and 84 mph on a 60 mph highway (it's a habit in the carless highways of Nebraska)--but I've never gotten a ticket, not even a written warning.
The cop isn't out to "get" someone.
Truthfulness with a law-enforcement official works. I suggest the primitives try it.
BlueStateSaint's answer is pretty good but I'll try to give you one not specific to a particular state. The general rule in the US is the so-called "implied consent" to testing in accepting your license. In actual application, this means that you can certainly refuse to cooperate with a blood alcohol test (be it breath, urine, blood, or some other means yet to be invented; some states allow you a choice, some do not), however if you do, your license becomes immediately suspended administratively by the licensing authority.
There are variations on this from state to state, such as if you are involved in a fatal accident your blood will be tested with or without your consent, based on a probable cause search and seizure approach (with the 'exigent circumstances' exception to the warrant requirement in play because the alcohol content of the blood is being continously metabolized away as time passes).
If you agree to the test and bomb it, generally your license is in a lot of jeopardy too of course, but this is less uniform from state to state than most other aspects of intoxicated driving law and practice. However, while consenting to the test and bombing it will very likely result in the damning stigma of a DUI conviction, you can probably get at least limited driving privileges for commuting and other truly necessary purposes, or even a pretrial diversion or suspended judgment for a first offense, which can ultimately avoid the actual conviction if at considerable expense and additional court scrutiny of your life for an extended period.
Refusng may possibly prevent the government from having quite enough evidence to convict you for DUI; after all, as attorneys are wont to say, it's not "Drinking and driving" that is illegal, it is "Drunk driving," so just because the cop smelled liquor on your breath, by itself that does not show you were over the limit. If you can get by without being behind the wheel for a year or two, it's a valid strategy to avoid the conviction if that is the most important risk to you .
Agreeing to the test is probably going to make it a whole lot easier to convict you, but there are various ways to mitigate the consequences or even avoid the conviction if you take this route.
Each approach has icertain advantages, of course copping an attitude with the arresting officer is a great way to make a bad situation worse, for those so inclined, no matter which way you go.
The down side of refusing is that you will lose
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I'm with you. Anytime I've ben pulled over, I'm as polite as one can get. I've generally considered that it's just not a good idea to argue with someone who can shoot me.
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I know a ton of cops. Ya know, if ya treat the guys with the respect they deserve, more than likely you'll walk in most cases. On the other hand, if you're a total ass and believe they work for you, then they like nothing better than to show you the bowels of the criminal justice system.
The word "Sir" goes a long way when trying to get out of a ticket! Polite is an understatement if you want to walk on, say....... not having your license with you and nothing in the car to "prove" who you are. He's more likely to believe you if you act like an upstanding citizen as opposed to tellin' him to get ****ed because you don't have to prove "shit", which happens more than you could imagine.
Just sayin' thanks, instead of **** you, will get you a mile! Many of my friends are cops. We go out back to my shooting range all of the time since I'm closer than the county range. You'd be surprised how often a smile and a handshake will keep you out of jail and in a lot of cases, from even getting pulled over!
I make it a habit of waving to every officer I see on the road. Doesn't matter what denomination it's just a common courtesy they deserve.
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Here in Idaho, you can refuse the test. When you do you must hand over your license on the spot. Generally it will result in a one year suspension, but they cannot convict you od DUI.
It's kind of a toss up on whether or not this is a good thing, since most of the time those that do this eventually get pulled over for driving suspended, which is a go directly to jail, do not pass go, and do not collect $200!
On the other hand, insurance wise, you might be ahead if you can manage to keep your nose clean for a year.
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Here in Idaho, you can refuse the test. When you do you must hand over your license on the spot. Generally it will result in a one year suspension, but they cannot convict you od DUI.
Oh, they can still convict you, it just takes a deal more other evidence beyond the fact your breath might smell like a distillery. Dashcams have helped the cops an awful lot on this one.
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Some of you here that are from our old home CU may remember my little run in with the police over an incident involving a slow driver and it being at night and a high speen race involving the two of us. Well the chase ended in front of the local sherriffs office where I imedialy stopped the car and shut off the engine just as they and the local cops were getting started to search for the two cars involved doing 100+ on the county back roads.
When the cops finally get there I did everything they asked and was polite and that was far better then what would have happened when 3 cruisers and the sherriffs SUV roll up and your already outnumbered and they have the guns. It went along way along with my telling them the absolute truth to getting nothing more then a fine of over $350 dollars and a years probation without supervision. My Lawyer however said I shouldn't have told them everything but then again she wasn't the one looking at a year in jail and a huge fine.
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Reminds me of a story my brother told me of when he was stationed in Norfolk,VA. Norfolk has a pretty strict public drinking law to keep the Navy guys in line. Anyways my brother is out with some of the guys and they are having a couple beers in their car in a bar parking lot before they go into the bar. I guess they got out with the beer still in their hands and some local cops pulled up. The cops were just giving them the standard crap. Where's your hometown? etc. Anyways one guy answers "Poughkeepsie, NY" The cop asks him how to spell it and the smart ass rolls his eyes and says "N-E-W -Y........... That's about as far as he got before he had handcuffs slapped on him. Probably would've got off with just a warning, but he had to be a wiseguy.
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You're far more likely to get killed by a doctor than by a policeman, and yet the DUmmies want to give doctors more power than policemen via socialist healthcare.