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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Servonaut on February 20, 2009, 07:32:28 PM
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This crap pisses me off.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8213844
jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-20-09 03:36 PM
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Obama: Katrina survivors didn't get enough help
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Obama said Friday that residents of the U.S. Gulf Coast still are trying to rebuild three years after Hurricane Katrina and have not received the support they deserve from Washington.
His words amounted to sharp, though indirect, criticism of former President George W. Bush's oversight of the Katrina recovery efforts. Katrina was blamed for more than 1,600 deaths and $41 billion in property damage.
"The residents of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast who are helping rebuild are heroes who believe in their communities and they are succeeding despite the fact that they have not always received the support they deserve from the federal government," Obama said in a statement. "We must ensure that the failures of the past are never repeated."
Bush was widely believed to have botched the response to the devastating storm of August 2005 by being too slow to respond. The country watched in shame as the catastrophe cemented images of Bush being out-of-touch: flying over a flooded New Orleans, praising his beleaguered emergency management chief for a "heckuva job."
To provide more support, Obama said he would extend the Office of the Federal Coordinator for Gulf Coast Rebuilding, a position created by Bush that was set to expire at the end of this month, until September.
The president also is dispatching two Cabinet secretaries to visit New Orleans and other storm-ravaged parts of the Gulf Coast. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Housing Secretary Shaun Donovan will tour the region March 5-6.
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-02-20-obam...
3 freaking years ago and they still need help ?
Ike hit us last September and we're pretty much back to normal here in Houston.
And the people in Galveston and Bolivar aren't waiting for Washington DC to save them.
firedupdem (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-20-09 03:39 PM
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1. More good news! n/t
DevonRex (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-20-09 03:41 PM
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2. Wow. We actually have a President, ladies and gentlemen. K&R.
Thrill (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-20-09 03:49 PM
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3. Shame on the Governor of that state. Shame on him
xenussister (110 posts) Fri Feb-20-09 04:10 PM
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4. How brilliant is this man?
He times a compassionate response to Katrina, NOLA and the Gulf coast, right after Jindal and Barbour make asses out of themselves regarding the stimulus.
His wanting to help, which he is and will follow through on, isn't a political move. He genuinely cares and is compassionate, but the timing of this announcement, pure politics. Brilliant politics!
As someone else here said, these people have no idea who they're dealing with.
These assholes make me really angry.
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he'll write them all a check for $100K.
the lunatics are in charge of the asylum now . . . .
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How about those people in Kentucky who were without power for several weeks after those ice storms? How long will it take them to rebuild?
:hammer:
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How about those people in Kentucky who were without power for several weeks after those ice storms? How long will it take them to rebuild?
:hammer:
bingo.
obama dozed. people froze.
H5
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How about those people in Kentucky who were without power for several weeks after those ice storms? How long will it take them to rebuild?
:hammer:
He didn't even have the time...that I'm aware of...in his busy schedule to over fly the affected areas to survey the damage.
Can't waste any time checking on the citizens freezing to death when you're busy plotting the next Socialist Utopia within our own borders.
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He didn't even have the time...that I'm aware of...in his busy schedule to over fly the affected areas to survey the damage.
Can't waste any time checking on the citizens freezing to death when you're busy plotting the next Socialist Utopia within our own borders.
Did he ever mention it at all? I don't remember him saying one word about the people in Kentucky.
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He didn't even have the time...that I'm aware of...in his busy schedule to over fly the affected areas to survey the damage.
Can't waste any time checking on the citizens freezing to death when you're busy plotting the next Socialist Utopia within our own borders.
the frozen counties in kentucy went about 80% for mccain. do the math. :wink:
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Did he ever mention it at all? I don't remember him saying one word about the people in Kentucky.
I believe he signed an executive order declaring that region a disaster area . . . without comment.
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the frozen counties in kentucy went about 80% for mccain. do the math. :wink:
Guess he didn't want to come face to face with those bitter folks clinging to their God and their guns.
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Looking at local newspapers, there are still 9,000 homes there without power.
Nice.
I wonder if there was much looting. :uhsure:
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Guess he didn't want to come face to face with those bitter folks clinging to their God and their guns.
Or put chunks of his opposition on ice...
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Looking at local newspapers, there are still 9,000 homes there without power.
Nice.
I wonder if there was much looting. :uhsure:
I would say that there was zero looting, because everyone is armed. which brings to mind a great argument about crime vs. gun control. :whatever:
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Katrina victims got more f'n help than they deserved. ...well, the fools that stayed back in NO that is.
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Okay a Cat 4 hurricane slams into New Orleans. Because of 40 years of patronage and corruption the levees have been neglected. Because of public apathy, incompetent politicians were in charge of the evacuation. The levees burst, water everywhere, where do you bury the survivors?
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He didn't even have the time...that I'm aware of...in his busy schedule to over fly the affected areas to survey the damage.
Can't waste any time checking on the citizens freezing to death when you're busy plotting the next Socialist Utopia within our own borders.
There aren't enough half-black folks in Kentucky to merit his attention.
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Okay a Cat 4 hurricane slams into New Orleans. Because of 40 years of patronage and corruption the levees have been neglected. Because of public apathy, incompetent politicians were in charge of the evacuation. The levees burst, water everywhere, where do you bury the survivors?
Um, you don't bury survivors....normally.
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Um, you don't bury survivors....normally.
but in a cat 5 hurricane, you usually dont have to
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Okay a Cat 4 hurricane slams into New Orleans. Because of 40 years of patronage and corruption the levees have been neglected. Because of public apathy, incompetent politicians were in charge of the evacuation. The levees burst, water everywhere, where do you bury the survivors?
TRICK QUESTION!!11111
You can't bury anyone in New Orleans. They all have mausoleums. Thought you had me, didn't you?
:-)
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-20-09 03:49 PM
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3. Shame on the Governor of that state. Shame on him
Uhhhhh no. Shame on HER. Shame on her. Where was this post when Kathleen Blanco was screwing the people of her state ... where was this post when Ray dumb as ... I mean Naggin was doing nothing?
Screw New Orleans. It has been 3 years and 5 months since Katrina came ashore as a CAT 3 hurricane. If you can't put it back together in that amount of time you don't need HELP you WANT A HANDOUT.
Man this Katrina stuff pisses me off.
KC
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And Katrina wasn't a CAT 4 or 5 when it made landfall.
It was a 2.
If the freakin leeves hadn't failed it would have been worth a
couple of days in the funny papers.
When you build a city in a bowl on the Gulf Coast, guess
what's bound to happen. :whatever:
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Obama hates white people!
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How about those people in Kentucky who were without power for several weeks after those ice storms? How long will it take them to rebuild?
:hammer:
They are mostly white -- they don't "deserve" anything...
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I got a call from a sherrif's office in Kentucky yesterday. Emergency workers continue to bring diesel to people that still don't have power and have been running on generators.
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And Katrina wasn't a CAT 4 or 5 when it made landfall.
It was a 2.
If the freakin leeves hadn't failed it would have been worth a
couple of days in the funny papers.
When you build a city in a bowl on the Gulf Coast, guess
what's bound to happen. :whatever:
Oh yeah and it didn't make landfall in NOLA, the outerbands grazed NOLA's
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Oh yeah and it didn't make landfall in NOLA, the outerbands grazed NOLA's
True, it wasn't a direct hit by any means. It's always made me laugh how people like the DUmmies thought NO took a direct hit from a CAT 5 storm. The only time Katrina was a CAT 5 was out in the middle of the Gulf. It quickly lost strength and wind speed as it neared shore. If it HAD been a CAT 5 at landfall all of NO might have been wiped out.
And the DUmmies among others, seem to ignore all those people pulled off the roofs.
Intact Roofs. Still Attached To The Houses. You know, the ones people had
to CUT through to escape the FLOOD waters???
I'm sorry, but after all this time I hold little patience or sympathy for anyone of any color still whining about their home in New Orleans. Anyone STILL bitching about this obviously wants the Dems to give them a condo (a nice one) in Boca.
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And Katrina wasn't a CAT 4 or 5 when it made landfall.
It was a 2.
If the freakin leeves hadn't failed it would have been worth a
couple of days in the funny papers.
When you build a city in a bowl on the Gulf Coast, guess
what's bound to happen. :whatever:
it had a cat 5 storm surge in front of it, and that is what does most of the damage. but you already knew that, I am sure. :-)
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So, what's Obama's plan.....build an ARK?
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it had a cat 5 storm surge in front of it, and that is what does most of the damage. but you already knew that, I am sure. :-)
See post above yours Fearless Leader. :-)
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See post above yours Fearless Leader. :-)
heh. ok. :wink:
katrina is sort of a pet peeve of mine. mississippi caught the worst of it, but you didn't hear a word about it. my parents live 90 miles inland, and they had $20K worth of damage to their house. now, the eye passed just to the west of them, and that's exactly where you don't want to be in a hurricane, but that's another conversation.
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heh. ok. :wink:
katrina is sort of a pet peeve of mine. mississippi caught the worst of it, but you didn't hear a word about it. my parents live 90 miles inland, and they had $20K worth of damage to their house. now, the eye passed just to the west of them, and that's exactly where you don't want to be in a hurricane, but that's another conversation.
I hear ya, and Katrina bothers me too. Friggen morans on DU would rather believe Fister about 10,000 dead instead of looking at the facts. They'd rather blame Bush than the correct people and they totally ignore people like your folks.
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I hear ya, and Katrina bothers me too. Friggen morans on DU would rather believe Fister about 10,000 dead instead of looking at the facts. They'd rather blame Bush than the correct people and they totally ignore people like your folks.
there is no way for a mere mortal government to compensate for an act-of-God-like occurrence like katrina.
of course, those poor, deluded individuals that believe that government is the solution to their personal failings are incapable of dealing with that fact . . . like it or not, reality happpens.
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there is no way for a mere mortal government to compensate for an act-of-God-like occurrence like katrina.
of course, those poor, deluded individuals that believe that government is the solution to their personal failings are incapable of dealing with that fact . . . like it or not, reality happpens.
The DUmmies and their ilk will also likely not remember the facts on Hurricane Andrew.
There was a Bush in the White House then also and guess who was Governor of
Florida in 92??? Yeah DUmmies, it was an eeeeevil ReThug. NOT.
Hurricane Andrew Facts (http://www.geocities.com/hurricanene/hurricaneandrew.htm)
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The DUmmies and their ilk will also likely not remember the facts on Hurricane Andrew.
There was a Bush in the White House then also and guess who was Governor of
Florida in 92??? Yeah DUmmies, it was an eeeeevil ReThug. NOT.
Hurricane Andrew Facts (http://www.geocities.com/hurricanene/hurricaneandrew.htm)
I was in Sarasota (a.k.a, the most beautiful place on earth) when Andrew hit. it was breezy. :-)
andrew wasn't as freaking big as katrina, though.
katrina:
(http://blog.lib.umn.edu/olso4158/architecture/katrina-hurricane-pic3%5B1%5D.jpg)
andrew:
(http://www.tropicalweather.net/picts/hurricane_andrew_satellite.jpg)
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LOL!!!
But Andrew did hit as a CAT 5. And Homestead showed it.
Plus, later analysis show probable severe micro-bursts that,
in areas, probably produced wind speeds near 200mph for
short times.
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LOL!!!
But Andrew did hit as a CAT 5. And Homestead showed it.
Plus, later analysis show probable severe micro-bursts that,
in areas, probably produced wind speeds near 200mph for
short times.
homestead, it turns out, was made of lincoln-logs.
but I concede the fact that andrew had much higher winds.
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homestead, it turns out, was made of lincoln-logs.
but I concede the fact that andrew had much higher winds.
True, up till Andrew builders were getting away with using staples to install roof shingles. Not that there is really anything wrong with staples but when they are HALF the length they should be...
I was visiting my sister in the Orlando area when they lived there and I was shocked how quickly a builder was putting a roof onto an apartment. Later that day I took a walk past the place and found tons of staples all over the place. I remember thinking how small these staples were but didn't give it much more thought.
Then again, even a Lincoln Log home can survive a storm like Andrew. When I was living in Sarasota there was an article about a Homestead homeowner who correctly protected his windows with Plywood. His windows stayed intact and he didn't loose his roof, or his home. His place was one of the only homes that wasn't blasted to pieces. It was an interesting read.
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True, up till Andrew builders were getting away with using staples to install roof shingles. Not that there is really anything wrong with staples but when they are HALF the length they should be...
I was visiting my sister in the Orlando area when they lived there and I was shocked how quickly a builder was putting a roof onto an apartment. Later that day I took a walk past the place and found tons of staples all over the place. I remember thinking how small these staples were but didn't give it much more thought.
Then again, even a Lincoln Log home can survive a storm like Andrew. When I was living in Sarasota there was an article about a Homestead homeowner who correctly protected his windows with Plywood. His windows stayed intact and he didn't loose his roof, or his home. His place was one of the only homes that wasn't blasted to pieces. It was an interesting read.
post the link, if you can find it. that's interesting. I knew that homes got blasted to pieces in tornados because of the change in pressure, but didn't know that the same thing happened in hurricanes.
you don't have an opinion on pam anderson, huh? :-)
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I hear ya, and Katrina bothers me too. Friggen morans on DU would rather believe Fister about 10,000 dead instead of looking at the facts. They'd rather blame Bush than the correct people and they totally ignore people like your folks.
That's because it's easier for them to do that rather than actually think for themselves.
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So if Zerobama is pissing and whining that the Katrina survivors didn't get "enough" help, why was there NO funding in the stimulus bill for NO and the other affected areas? And frankly, when is it EVER going to be enough? We're at $250K for every man, woman, and child who was in NOLA in 2005. When do we say, "We've given you enough, now you're on your own?"
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andrew wasn't as freaking big as katrina, though.
Depends on what you mean by that WE.
Andrew was a Cat 5 when it made landfall.
Then once it got done trying to take out the southern portion of Florida...it went after Louisiana.
IMHO that was a big freaking storm.