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Title: Chief S itting Bull wants a riot
Post by: franksolich on February 06, 2009, 08:15:58 AM: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3725028

Oh my. The things the primitives find, in the news:

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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-05-09 03:10 PM
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France may take NATO command post in U.S.

PARIS: France is in talks on taking control of two NATO command posts, including a prestigious one in the United States that has never been led by a foreign commander, defense officials said Thursday.

Such a move could also be accompanied by the injection of hundreds more French troops into NATO, a European defense official said. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because no deal had been finalized.

President Nicolas Sarkozy has been looking to tighten France's links with NATO, particularly ahead of the defense alliance's April summit meeting in Strasbourg and Kehl, Germany, that will celebrate its 60th anniversary.

The European official and a French military official said France was in talks to put a French general in charge of two command posts: one in Norfolk, Virginia, responsible for laying out the long-term vision of the Atlantic alliance, and the other an operational command based in Lisbon.

Read more: http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/02/05/europe/nato.4-42...

Wow, this is a big deal, both militarily and for our international relations.

I dunno. Given that France is a member of NATO, I don't see any big deal.

Probably a general from Luxembourg's been over here too, in some capacity, at least once since 1949, when NATO was formed.

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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-05-09 03:18 PM
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1. Someone needs to post this on a republican site.

Just to watch their heads explode.

The French on U.S. soil and in charge.

I dunno. franksolich isn't too worked up over it.

Chief S itting Bull, the bird-smacking stoned red-faced primitive:

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Redstone (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-05-09 03:26 PM
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2. God, yes, what a riot that would be!

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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-05-09 03:39 PM
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3. Is that someone you? Go for it.!! Better yet, send it to LOU.

And then we get the Fat Che in the punchbowl:

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bdab1973 (279 posts) Thu Feb-05-09 04:06 PM
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4. French have been in the US...

We had a French exchange officer in my old squadron...great guy, actually. Some of our joint staff positions are filled with French officers, also here on US soil. The Germans actually have two fighter squadrons based in New Mexico, something else many people don't know.

The French pilot in our squadron would always remind us there's a major difference between the French people and the French government...something I'm sure Americans have said abroad before as well regarding our country. For what it's worth, the French government places a large premium on displaying and promoting French supremacy and they love bragging rights. However, I've found that most French citizens I've met are all pretty good people, and many of them are as sick of their government in Paris as we're sick of our government in DC.

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Title: Re: Chief S itting Bull wants a riot
Post by: claret1995 on February 06, 2009, 08:31:43 AM: Quote
cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-05-09 03:18 PM
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1. Someone needs to post this on a republican site.

Just to watch their heads explode.

The French on U.S. soil and in charge
.

And the dummies consider this a big deal.

With the french in charge,I could get my brothers(2) and get them to surrender in 5 or 10 minutes
Title: Re: Chief S itting Bull wants a riot
Post by: Rebel on February 06, 2009, 08:36:44 AM: Damn, having France lead up a military alliance is like having Father John Geoghan head up DFACS.
Title: Re: Chief S itting Bull wants a riot
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 06, 2009, 08:58:05 AM: This is Obama's answer to the DADT policy quagmire he's in with liberal fags. With a French fairy in charge you won't have to ask and you won't have to tell the DUmmies.
Title: Re: Chief S itting Bull wants a riot
Post by: franksolich on February 06, 2009, 09:00:13 AM: Quote from: Rebel on February 06, 2009, 08:36:44 AM
Damn, having France lead up a military alliance is like having Father John Geoghan head up DFACS.

Well, really, though, sir, speaking as a professional civilian, I don't know what I'm talking about, but isn't this exchange-of-officers thing a normal routine affair in matters military.

And since France is a member of NATO, haven't there been lots and lots of French officers over here, since 1949?

I don't see what the primitives are all tumescent about.
Title: Re: Chief S itting Bull wants a riot
Post by: Rebel on February 06, 2009, 09:50:41 AM: Quote from: franksolich on February 06, 2009, 09:00:13 AM
Well, really, though, sir, speaking as a professional civilian, I don't know what I'm talking about, but isn't this exchange-of-officers thing a normal routine affair in matters military.

And since France is a member of NATO, haven't there been lots and lots of French officers over here, since 1949?

I don't see what the primitives are all tumescent about.

Yeah, I just saw a chance to slam the French, so I took it. :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Chief S itting Bull wants a riot
Post by: Karin on February 06, 2009, 10:53:07 AM: It's just a normal exchange of officers. They are in NATO, after all. The DUmmies wanted to broadcast it out there to see conservatives get all hot and bothered. They don't understand military matters.
Title: Re: Chief S itting Bull wants a riot
Post by: Chris_ on February 06, 2009, 11:00:24 AM: Quote
I dunno. Given that France is a member of NATO, I don't see any big deal.

I certainly expect that the BTDT types on the board can correct me if I'm wrong here, but I coulda swore that France left NATO back in the 50's or 60's. They gave a whole pisspot full of bullshit reasons, but it was largely because the organization wasn't Franco-centric enough.
Title: Re: Chief S itting Bull wants a riot
Post by: franksolich on February 06, 2009, 11:13:19 AM: Quote from: DefiantSix on February 06, 2009, 11:00:24 AM
I certainly expect that the BTDT types on the board can correct me if I'm wrong here, but I coulda swore that France left NATO back in the 50's or 60's. They gave a whole pisspot full of bullshit reasons, but it was largely because the organization wasn't Franco-centric enough.

No, de Gaulle just wanted American bases and military off of French soil, nothing more than that.

France has been a member of NATO uninterruptedly since NATO was formed.
Title: Re: Chief S itting Bull wants a riot
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 06, 2009, 11:20:46 AM: Quote from: franksolich on February 06, 2009, 09:00:13 AM
Well, really, though, sir, speaking as a professional civilian, I don't know what I'm talking about, but isn't this exchange-of-officers thing a normal routine affair in matters military.

And since France is a member of NATO, haven't there been lots and lots of French officers over here, since 1949?

I don't see what the primitives are all tumescent about.

Yeah, though since De Gaulle pulled France out of active participation in the 60s, the French role has been to go their own way while remaining technically part of the alliance in case the Reds ever did attack. They do have some capable forces (and some millstones), the biggest problem with having them involved in anything is not their actual military capability but their internal politics and the difficulty of getting their pols to commit to anything that might result in bad press (and their press is pretty far Left, and therefore anything that supports US goals is likely to be attacked in it).
NATO is a combined command with officers from all participating nations involved in various command postings in it, which is actually a bit different from the officer exchanges that involve officers serving within the national forces of another one of the component nations (we also do this with other allied, non-NATO militaries). NATO itself does not directly control forces, so the "Command" positions in it are basically planning and contingency headquarters without actual ground forces at their immediate disposal.