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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: USA4ME on February 05, 2009, 03:11:43 PM
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ColbertWatcher
I just noticed something about the language used to describe the jobs bill.
I know I'm probably late on this but ...
It seems to me that there are two ways to frame this bill.
The first is the way the GOP-controlled media is framing it: an "economic" stimulus. Using this language, it makes it seem as though this inanimate idea (the "economy") is in trouble and everyone must sacrifice equally to "save" it.
Another way to view this bill is the way many DUers have been suggesting: to call it a jobs bill, which is what it is. This framing highlights which segment of the population is really in trouble: working people, be they middle-class, working poor or unemployed.
The first way (the GOP-controlled media way) sounds good because it uses the language of populism, but does not accurately reflect reality, which the second way does.
Focusing on the abstract of an economy no one can be considered a victim, but no one can be blamed (like the reckless, sociopath corporate titans) either.
By feigning "objectivity," the GOP-controlled media can ignore the consequences of the last 8 years of Bush and the last 29 years of failed Reagan-Friedmanomics. There are simply too many people out of work, sick and unable to pay for adequate healthcare and homeless to ignore. Not to mention that wages have remained stagnant for too long as the prices for goods and services has skyrocketed.
It is not the economy or other inhuman entities that needs help it is the people whose needs must be addressed in this bill.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4987963
The colbert primitive is as stupid as they get.
seafan
Hartmann: "Call it the JOBS BILL. Harry Reid, make 'em filibuster! Roll back the Reagan tax cuts."
Thom Hartmann is hopping mad over what's happening.
He says we should stop calling this an "economic stimulus", because the Republicans are trying to conflate this package with the highly unpopular TARP 'stimulus' bill. The effect will be that everyone will end up hating it.
Thom says we need to call it what it really is, and that is a JOBS BILL. The "America Back To Work Bill", and refer to it as "The Jobs Bill." He says the current name "economic stimulus bill" was a mistake by Obama's team. He hopes it is not too late to start referring to it differently from now on.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4980215&mesg_id=4980215
For those who aren't aware, Hartmann is a simple-minded kook radio personality out of Portland, OR.
So call it a "jobs bill." Hmmmmmm...........
So it's $900,000,000,000 bill divided by (at best) 4,000,000 jobs created equals $225,000 per job.
Yeah, sure you dimwits, you go ahead and call it a jobs bill where every job costs $225,000. Go for it!
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Me thinks this moonbat radio personality, and the DUmmy, may have a soul connection.
Why don't they just hand out $225k to 4 million people, and let them go blow it on cars, hookers, beer, and plasma tv's? That would probably improve the economy more than some muni jobs that only hacks are going to be able to get anyway.
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How about the BORROWING AND PRINTING BILL TO GROW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BILL?
I know too long....I'll keep working
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Hey DUmbasses,
http://www.stimuluswatch.org/
I'm not seeing the millions of jobs bring created with that pork barrel. Hell, at that rate, we'd need about a 100 trillion dollar bailout.
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Or how about the "God bless you my Friend, and let one to introduce self, which is one Dr. Kaneekala Odaklala, former Nigeria Minister of Finance; I have mutually-lucrative proposition for you consideration Bill"?
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The primitives are being willfully ignorant. This is not a jobs bill. All the pork provides very few jobs, and nothing is shovel-ready, not even the dog park or frisbee course. The enviromoonbats will have to scour any and all projects and study it for five years, first. God help the project if there is a UST involved.
Post Update: Hey Rebel, thanks for that link. That's pretty interesting. You can vote on each piece of bacon. What I want to know is, how come Cincinnatti, OH has their grubby paw all over this stinkfest? I cannot believe they cobbled this together. On page 1, there is only one project that states that it's fully permitted, ready to go, and will add 1000-1500 jobs. It's in the port of Anchorage. Could be perfectly sensible infrastructure. Hotels s/b private investment. $600 mill for an African American heritage trail?! WTF? A trail? I've got one I made myself in the woods in back of my house. Long post, sorry, this is driving me crazy.
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I vote for calling it the Bacon Explosion bill.
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I vote for calling it the Bacon Explosion bill.
H5 I was about to suggest the Pork Explosion Bill. :-)
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H5 I was about to suggest the Pork Explosion Bill. :-)
Isn't that offensive to our Dear Leader's Muslim brothers umm... allies err.... comrades ahhh.... masters?
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"PORKZILLA".....works for me.
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Isn't that offensive to our Dear Leader's Muslim brothers umm... allies err.... comrades ahhh.... masters?
So? Your point is? :lmao:
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So? Your point is? :lmao:
My point would be that Big Brotha has loooong arms, that probably even reach into the caliphate of Great Britain. If you don't wind up in a camp, you could probably have a fatwah issued for your punishment...
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My point would be that Big Brotha has loooong arms, that probably even reach into the caliphate of Great Britain. If you don't wind up in a camp, you could probably have a fatwah issued for your punishment...
Heh. If I waited for Obama to appoint someone to issue the fatwa on me I'd die of old age before I made it to the camp if his current progress is anything to go by.
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#1 The media is not GOP controlled and only a brainless Dummy could imagine it so.
#2. The Porkulus bill will not create job 1, parts of it are make work projects but it does not create any jobs.
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WHAT THE HELL IS THIS!!!!!!!!!!!BILLIONS AND BILLIONS FOR STATE AFTER STATE, AND NY $1.7 MILLION!!!!!!!!! STOP THIS PIECE OF CRAP TODAY!!!!!! :banghead: :thatsright: :tongue:
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Or how about the "God bless you my Friend, and let one to introduce self, which is one Dr. Kaneekala Odaklala, former Nigeria Minister of Finance; I have mutually-lucrative proposition for you consideration Bill"?
It would have the same value thats for sure
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Porque:
According to Nat. Review, the bill includes:
$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts
$380 million in the Senate bill for the Women, Infants and Children program
$300 million for grants to combat violence against women
$2 billion for federal child-care block grants
$6 billion for university building projects
$15 billion for boosting Pell Grant college scholarships
$4 billion for job-training programs, including $1.2 billion for “youths†up to the age of 24
$1 billion for community-development block grants
$4.2 billion for “neighborhood stabilization activitiesâ€
$650 million for digital-TV coupons; $90 million to educate “vulnerable populationsâ€
$15 billion for business-loss carry-backs
$145 billion for “Making Work Pay†tax credits
$83 billion for the earned income credit
$150 million for the Smithsonian
$34 million to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters
$500 million for improvement projects for National Institutes of Health facilities
$44 million for repairs to Department of Agriculture headquarters
$350 million for Agriculture Department computers
$88 million to help move the Public Health Service into a new building
$448 million for constructing a new Homeland Security Department headquarters
$600 million to convert the federal auto fleet to hybrids
$450 million for NASA (carve-out for “climate-research missionsâ€)
$600 million for NOAA (carve-out for “climate modelingâ€)
$1 billion for the Census Bureau
$89 billion for Medicaid
$30 billion for COBRA insurance extension
$36 billion for expanded unemployment benefits
$20 billion for food stamps
$4.5 billion for U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
$850 million for Amtrak
$87 million for a polar icebreaking ship
$1.7 billion for the National Park System
$55 million for Historic Preservation Fund
$7.6 billion for “rural community advancement programsâ€
$150 million for agricultural-commodity purchases
$150 million for “producers of livestock, honeybees, and farm-raised fishâ€
$2 billion for renewable-energy research ($400 million for global-warming research)
$2 billion for a “clean coal†power plant in Illinois
$6.2 billion for the Weatherization Assistance Program
$3.5 billion for energy-efficiency and conservation block grants
$3.4 billion for the State Energy Program
$200 million for state and local electric-transport projects
$300 million for energy-efficient-appliance rebate programs
$400 million for hybrid cars for state and local governments
$1 billion for the manufacturing of advanced batteries
$1.5 billion for green-technology loan guarantees
$8 billion for innovative-technology loan-guarantee program
$2.4 billion for carbon-capture demonstration projects
$4.5 billion for electricity grid
link (http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjcyODIyZGM2MGU1ZDdkNDgxZDc3OTNjYjM4ZDY1ODI=)
That's one big pig.
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the GOP-controlled media
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Remember it is create or SAVE millions of jobs.
What I find particularly ironical is that the Obama capped CEO wage at $400K and each job produced by the porkulus bill runs about $660k.
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The Making Big Brotha Fatter Bill
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Porque:
According to Nat. Review, the bill includes:
$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts
$380 million in the Senate bill for the Women, Infants and Children program
$300 million for grants to combat violence against women
$2 billion for federal child-care block grants
$6 billion for university building projects
$15 billion for boosting Pell Grant college scholarships
$4 billion for job-training programs, including $1.2 billion for “youths†up to the age of 24
$1 billion for community-development block grants
$4.2 billion for “neighborhood stabilization activitiesâ€
$650 million for digital-TV coupons; $90 million to educate “vulnerable populationsâ€
$15 billion for business-loss carry-backs
$145 billion for “Making Work Pay†tax credits
$83 billion for the earned income credit
$150 million for the Smithsonian
$34 million to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters
$500 million for improvement projects for National Institutes of Health facilities
$44 million for repairs to Department of Agriculture headquarters
$350 million for Agriculture Department computers
$88 million to help move the Public Health Service into a new building
$448 million for constructing a new Homeland Security Department headquarters
$600 million to convert the federal auto fleet to hybrids
$450 million for NASA (carve-out for “climate-research missionsâ€)
$600 million for NOAA (carve-out for “climate modelingâ€)
$1 billion for the Census Bureau
$89 billion for Medicaid
$30 billion for COBRA insurance extension
$36 billion for expanded unemployment benefits
$20 billion for food stamps
$4.5 billion for U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
$850 million for Amtrak
$87 million for a polar icebreaking ship
$1.7 billion for the National Park System
$55 million for Historic Preservation Fund
$7.6 billion for “rural community advancement programsâ€
$150 million for agricultural-commodity purchases
$150 million for “producers of livestock, honeybees, and farm-raised fishâ€
$2 billion for renewable-energy research ($400 million for global-warming research)
$2 billion for a “clean coal†power plant in Illinois
$6.2 billion for the Weatherization Assistance Program
$3.5 billion for energy-efficiency and conservation block grants
$3.4 billion for the State Energy Program
$200 million for state and local electric-transport projects
$300 million for energy-efficient-appliance rebate programs
$400 million for hybrid cars for state and local governments
$1 billion for the manufacturing of advanced batteries
$1.5 billion for green-technology loan guarantees
$8 billion for innovative-technology loan-guarantee program
$2.4 billion for carbon-capture demonstration projects
$4.5 billion for electricity grid
link (http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjcyODIyZGM2MGU1ZDdkNDgxZDc3OTNjYjM4ZDY1ODI=)
That's one big pig.
And that is the Democrat Party in all of its full execrable, childish, manipulative, socialist, sneaky, scheming, dishonest, one-finger-salute-to-America glory.