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Title: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: RobJohnson on February 04, 2009, 08:49:47 AM
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WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama wants to impose a $500,000 pay cap on executives whose firms receive government financial rescue funds, a dramatic intervention into corporate governance in the midst of financial crisis.

The new restrictions, described by an administration official familiar with the new rules, are to be announced Wednesday morning at the White House. The steps set the stage for the administration's unveiling next week of a new framework for spending the money that remains in the $700 billion financial rescue fund.

"If the taxpayers are helping you, then you've got certain responsibilities to not be living high on the hog," President Barack Obama said Tuesday.


Max Wage? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/04/AR2009020400436.html)

Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 04, 2009, 09:05:16 AM
"If the taxpayers are helping you, then you've got certain responsibilities to not be living high on the hog," President Barack Obama said Tuesday. [/b]


....uh ....dude.....that's 50% of your supporters.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Karin on February 04, 2009, 09:17:08 AM
This is one of the reasons I was against bailout.  Now, just like a welfare queen, the government can tell you what to do.  What trips to take, who gets paid what, and a host of other control-freak things they'll dream up.  Bad companies should fail.  Good companies should thrive. 
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Eupher on February 04, 2009, 09:55:51 AM
This is one of the reasons I was against bailout.  Now, just like a welfare queen, the government can tell you what to do.  What trips to take, who gets paid what, and a host of other control-freak things they'll dream up.  Bad companies should fail.  Good companies should thrive. 

Yup. h5
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Rebel on February 04, 2009, 10:04:03 AM
The companies will face guaranteed failure. Who in the hell is going to want the job of CEO and only make 500K? Hell, my neighbor, a branch manager for Wells Fargo Mortgage Finance made about 350K last year. ...and that's just one branch.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 04, 2009, 10:31:52 AM
Pretty soon this is not going to be just for the companies that were bailed out, this is gonna be for ALL CEOs.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Splashdown on February 04, 2009, 10:44:11 AM
From where did he pull out the $500,000 number?
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Rebel on February 04, 2009, 10:58:26 AM
From where did he pull out the $500,000 number?

That moron Claire McCaskall stated they shouldn't make any more than PrezBo, I.e. 400K. I guess he just added an extra 100K with the thought that it would be better. Yeah, right.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Splashdown on February 04, 2009, 10:59:58 AM
That moron Claire McCaskall stated they shouldn't make any more than PrezBo, I.e. 400K. I guess he just added an extra 100K with the thought that it would be better. Yeah, right.  :whatever:

lol. Most of those guys have some experience at their jobs, however...
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Chris_ on February 04, 2009, 11:11:49 AM
From where did he pull out the $500,000 number?
...same place he's been squirtin' out rainbows for the last six months.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: thundley4 on February 04, 2009, 11:35:06 AM
lol. Most of those guys have some experience at their jobs, however...

Most of those guys also have performance incentives written into their contracts, which accounts for a large part of their yearly earnings. I didn't hear 0bama mention anything about allowing those perks, just something about stock options that are tied to performance of the company.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Chris_ on February 04, 2009, 11:37:02 AM
You know...I'd give him this one.....if and only if we can tie his pay to performance.   :fuelfire:
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Eupher on February 04, 2009, 11:58:22 AM
That moron Claire McCaskall stated they shouldn't make any more than PrezBo, I.e. 400K. I guess he just added an extra 100K with the thought that it would be better. Yeah, right.  :whatever:

McCaskill is an absolute looney-tunes leftist who marches to Reid's drumbeat.

She must be replaced/voted out at the earliest opportunity. Since I'm one of her constituents, this is a project that I will work on personally.  :-)
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Traveshamockery on February 04, 2009, 12:03:26 PM
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McCaskill is an absolute looney-tunes leftist who marches to Reid's drumbeat.

She must be replaced/voted out at the earliest opportunity. Since I'm one of her constituents, this is a project that I will work on personally. 


Isn't Claire McCaskill another ACORN-appointed senator?  I read somewhere awhile ago that word came down from the ACORN fairies to the little minions in her district to get out the vote steal the election for her.   
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Eupher on February 04, 2009, 12:04:26 PM

Isn't Claire McCaskill another ACORN-appointed senator?  I read somewhere awhile ago that word came down from the ACORN fairies to the little minions in her district to get out the vote steal the election for her.   

Dunno. Haven't dug into it that far. She was not up for reelection this past November.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: RobJohnson on February 04, 2009, 12:38:19 PM
The companies will face guaranteed failure. Who in the hell is going to want the job of CEO and only make 500K? Hell, my neighbor, a branch manager for Wells Fargo Mortgage Finance made about 350K last year. ...and that's just one branch.

Whatever President Obama comes up the banks will be able to find loop holes and I doubt much changes.

This is a major step towards socialism. The first round of bailouts baked the cake, and Obama will ice it.

Pay cuts just leads to less big ticket spending by the folks that can no longer purchase those things...that will be great for the economy.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: RobJohnson on February 04, 2009, 12:45:23 PM
More details....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bailout_executive_pay

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This is America. We don't disparage wealth. We don't begrudge anybody for achieving success," Obama said. "But what gets people upset — and rightfully so — are executives being rewarded for failure. Especially when those rewards are subsidized by U.S. taxpayers."

The pay cap would apply to institutions that negotiate agreements with the Treasury Department for "exceptional assistance" in the future. The restriction would not apply to such firms as American International Group Inc., Bank of America Corp., and Citigroup Inc., that already have received such help.

"There is a deep sense across the country that those who were not ... responsible for this crisis are bearing a greater burden than those who were," Geithner said.

Firms that want to pay executives above the $500,000 threshold would have to use stock that could not be sold or liquidated until they pay back the government funds.

Generally healthy institutions would have more leeway. They also face the $500,000 limit if they're getting government help, but the cap can be waived with full public disclosure and a nonbinding shareholder vote.

Obama said that massive severance packages for executives who leave failing firms are also going to be eliminated. "We're taking the air out of golden parachutes," he said.

Other new requirements on "exceptional assistance" will include.........

As for the President's salary, I was taught in school that the salary of President was kept low, so people did not simply seek out that job for the money and most that become President give up huge earnings in the private sector.







Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: thundley4 on February 04, 2009, 12:54:56 PM
Whatever President Obama comes up the banks will be able to find loop holes and I doubt much changes.

This is a major step towards socialism. The first round of bailouts baked the cake, and Obama will ice it.

Pay cuts just leads to less big ticket spending by the folks that can no longer purchase those things...that will be great for the economy.  :banghead:

Pay cuts also reduce the state and local income taxes paid by those people.  We just heard recently how the reduced bonuses on Wall Street cut down the revenues of New York City and state.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Wretched Excess on February 04, 2009, 05:00:23 PM
wall street certainly liked the news. :whatever:

(http://idms.foxbusiness.com/charts/indices/quote.chart?ID_NOTATION=324977&HEIGHT=160&WIDTH=300)

Translation:
Quote
Dear President Barry;
     You still suck.

    Love,
    Wall Street.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: docstew on February 04, 2009, 05:56:27 PM
Whatever President Obama comes up the banks will be able to find loop holes and I doubt much changes.

This is a major step towards socialism. The first round of bailouts baked the cake, and Obama will ice it.

Pay cuts just leads to less big ticket spending by the folks that can no longer purchase those things...that will be great for the economy.  :banghead:

well, once no one WANTS the job, there will be gov't appointed CEO's who will be FORCED to take the job and accept that pay, since "these companies are too big to fail".
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Tess on February 04, 2009, 06:00:12 PM
Dunno. Haven't dug into it that far. She was not up for reelection this past November.

Her election is very suspect since NO ONE in this state likes her or has anything remotely good to say about her.  She bugs the shit out of me and there are very few people that can actually get me that riled up.  She is one though.  Dumb B****
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 04, 2009, 08:51:10 PM
Since Obama became President, he's been pushing the stimulus socialist programs in America.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Rebel on February 04, 2009, 09:29:20 PM
My wife makes 150K managing an office and 4 agents. If this moron thinks someone will take a job of being the CEO in charge over 20K+ for 500K, he's a f'n moron. If they're THAT f'ed up, can the sumbitches. Hell, the COO, CIO, CFO, and other people in those companies make over 500K, gonna cut all of their pay? Or just the CEO? So, the CEO makes 500K, and the CFO makes 2 mil. Yeah, that'll work.

Once again, the "kid" didn't think something through. This presidency is already a f'n disaster.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: rich_t on February 04, 2009, 10:52:32 PM
"For top executives to award themselves these kinds of compensation packages in the midst of this economic crisis is not only bad taste -- it's bad strategy -- and I will not tolerate it as president," he said.

Yup...  He's out of his league.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Tess on February 04, 2009, 11:11:07 PM
"For top executives to award themselves these kinds of compensation packages in the midst of this economic crisis is not only bad taste -- it's bad strategy -- and I will not tolerate it as president," he said.

Yup...  He's out of his league.

Do you think they are all sitting there just laughing their asses off at his arrogance?  I mean just because the "O" one has spoken and "will not tolerate" does he honestly think that is going to get him anywhere?  Or is it all rhetoric.  I'm seriously trying to figure out if he is that stupid or if he thinks we all are.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: rich_t on February 04, 2009, 11:15:04 PM
Do you think they are all sitting there just laughing their asses off at his arrogance?  I mean just because the "O" one has spoken and "will not tolerate" does he honestly think that is going to get him anywhere?  Or is it all rhetoric.  I'm seriously trying to figure out if he is that stupid or if he thinks we all are.

IMO he is that stupid, and he thinks that we are too.

The boy ain't in Chicago anymore.  He needs to learn that.  Perhaps he never will.  He is well on his way to being a one hit wonder that will make Carter look good by comparison.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Chris on February 05, 2009, 12:28:01 AM
Looks like we finally found Obama's answer to Rick Warren's question.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Sam Adams on February 05, 2009, 12:46:12 AM
Government does not have the right to decide what either wages or prices should be. Every time they do, a disaster ensues, because a free enterprise system allocates resources more efficiently.  If CEO salaries are excessive, than it is up to the stockholders to fix the problem. If the stockholders don't care, then why should anyone else?

But Barry is just remembering the Golden Rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules. Since the government is invested in these companies, they will interfere as much as they like. And they will like it a lot.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: docstew on February 05, 2009, 04:46:01 AM
if i were the stockholders, i'd vote to make paying that bailout money back top priority
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Sam Adams on February 05, 2009, 05:10:08 AM
I suppose it could be worse. Obama could have confiscated the executives' salaries, and given it to ACORN, who would them use it to build Dear Leader's Civilian Security Corps.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Chris_ on February 05, 2009, 06:28:21 AM
Personally I think once the company sticks it ****ing hand out and gets my tax money then we have a little say in compensation of the failing company. Once they are back on their feet and repaid the loan....then then can pay their CEO's whatever they want.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Rebel on February 05, 2009, 07:17:54 AM
Personally I think once the company sticks it ****ing hand out and gets my tax money then we have a little say in compensation of the failing company. Once they are back on their feet and repaid the loan....then then can pay their CEO's whatever they want.

Then put it into the bailout that all officers must step down. ...but don't limit their chances at getting the best and brightest out there as replacements to get them out of the mess. If you're one of the best CEO's out there, are you gonna work for 500K?
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 05, 2009, 07:23:40 AM
If you're one of the best CEO's out there, are you gonna work for 500K?

...uh....no....but then that's the whole idea. A government approved and appointed CEO will placed in the office and answer only to higher government officials. ....walla... industrial socialism.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: TheSarge on February 05, 2009, 07:30:50 AM
If anyone still doubted that the Democrat party HATES free enterprise...this removes any doubt that lingers.


Who the  :censored: is the Government to tell the CEO of a company what he can and can't make as a salary?
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Rebel on February 05, 2009, 07:38:51 AM
First off, I cannot STAND this bailout bullshit. I think many of these companies should have filed for bankruptcy. Secondly, the only sympathy I DO have for them is due to the fact that I think government is complicit in the financial situation we have today. I used to work in sub prime mortgage lending. We had no choice, the people made the grade, we had to lend to them. If we didn't, hell, we'd have all kinds of people barking down our throats because, at least in Augusta, many of these people were minorities. So, Dems caused that. That's Cause #1. Next up, gas prices rose 400 F'N PERCENT. This drove the price of EVERYTHING up. Now, couple that with the fact that the people getting sub mortgages were almost ALWAYS living paycheck to paycheck, and you have disaster on your hands. Democrats plan? Do we drill more? Do we build more nuclear facilities to relieve some of our other utilization? Do we start using more coal? Not no, but hell no. Can't have that. That's Cause #2. Both by Dems. Oh, but the Republicans don't get off easily. They controlled everything for 6 years.....and did nothing.

So, the reason we're in this mess right now is:

A) Democrat Action (prevented drilling, Nuclear, etc./CRA)

B) Republican Inaction

I don't blame the businesses NEARLY as much as I do government. If you guys think a CEO's bonus of 50 million brought down a billion dollar company, well, I have this bridge to sell ya. It's legit. I bought it from this guy named George C. Parker.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: thundley4 on February 05, 2009, 08:07:20 AM
One big problem with this is that there were some banks that did not ask for any bailout , but were forced to take it.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Splashdown on February 05, 2009, 09:04:03 AM
First off, I cannot STAND this bailout bullshit. I think many of these companies should have filed for bankruptcy. Secondly, the only sympathy I DO have for them is due to the fact that I think government is complicit in the financial situation we have today. I used to work in sub prime mortgage lending. We had no choice, the people made the grade, we had to lend to them. If we didn't, hell, we'd have all kinds of people barking down our throats because, at least in Augusta, many of these people were minorities. So, Dems caused that. That's Cause #1. Next up, gas prices rose 400 F'N PERCENT. This drove the price of EVERYTHING up. Now, couple that with the fact that the people getting sub mortgages were almost ALWAYS living paycheck to paycheck, and you have disaster on your hands. Democrats plan? Do we drill more? Do we build more nuclear facilities to relieve some of our other utilization? Do we start using more coal? Not no, but hell no. Can't have that. That's Cause #2. Both by Dems. Oh, but the Republicans don't get off easily. They controlled everything for 6 years.....and did nothing.

So, the reason we're in this mess right now is:

A) Democrat Action (prevented drilling, Nuclear, etc./CRA)

B) Republican Inaction

I don't blame the businesses NEARLY as much as I do government. If you guys think a CEO's bonus of 50 million brought down a billion dollar company, well, I have this bridge to sell ya. It's legit. I bought it from this guy named George C. Parker.

Hi-5. Well said. My sympathies lie with those in their 50s whose pensions are tied to the market. Because of tacit government endorsement, those guys were Enroned out of their retirements. Younger people will meke it up. The older workers prolly won't.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 05, 2009, 09:39:48 AM
Personally I think once the company sticks it ****ing hand out and gets my tax money then we have a little say in compensation of the failing company. Once they are back on their feet and repaid the loan....then then can pay their CEO's whatever they want.

I agree with that, and don't think Reb's response to it fits the facts.  These are organizations on life support, reduced to sucking the Federal teat.  The 'Talent' drove them into the ground in the first place and multi-million-dollar salaries are inappropriate rewards for abject failure.  Since the taxpayers are in effect new equity shareholders, I see no reason why they would want to fund further waste in the corporation involved. 
Now, the terms to get off this restriction are pretty important, and I can see a couple of ways to play this out so as not to cripple the company's future performance - first they could recapitalize to buy themselves off the Federal bailout (not possible with the biggest failures though); it also sets up the opportunity for rising new blood to come in and make its mark, building a huge future upside potential in exchange for a low salary in the short term, possibly with a jackpot for turning it around in the form of deferred compensation such as time-bound stock options. 
A collateral necessary reform is to trim the whole much-abused Golden Parachute practice.  It has effectively removed the consequence of failure so that all too many corporations have paid vast sums for horrible leadership that led them to organizational disaster (actually rewarding people 'From the right club' who drove the entire organization into a wall).  There need to be actual consequences for failure, not just smaller jackpots for it.  American corporate leadership has done a much better job of insulating itself from feeling any personal consequences than it has of actually fulfilling the duties of the senior executive positions, particularly in 'troubled' organizations.     
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Rebel on February 05, 2009, 10:02:51 AM
I saw it all play out, DAT. Those "Golden Parachutes" didn't cause a world-wide financial meltdown. It started with the CRA, but that was a sleeping giant. The thing with the soldering iron that woke his ass up was the gas prices. No way in hell were we prepared to see fuel prices rise 400%. ...and we had nothing to combat it.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: thundley4 on February 05, 2009, 10:21:43 AM
No way in hell were we prepared to see fuel prices rise 400%. ...and we had nothing to combat it.

We have all that oil right here in the US just waiting but the big evil oil companies refuse to drill.  :sarcasm:
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 05, 2009, 01:17:30 PM
I saw it all play out, DAT. Those "Golden Parachutes" didn't cause a world-wide financial meltdown. It started with the CRA, but that was a sleeping giant. The thing with the soldering iron that woke his ass up was the gas prices. No way in hell were we prepared to see fuel prices rise 400%. ...and we had nothing to combat it.

Rebel, I see the upside of this being two-fold:  One, it will drastically discourage any business organization that already has executives making over $500K from wandering into the handout line (which currently seems to be trying to replicate that "Hands across America" stunt); and two, competing organizations which do not take the dole should hammer the crap out of the crippled organizations in the market all the quicker and deliver failure its just reward.  I don't like hte Goverhnment interfence, but I see that in an unintended (by the Democrats) way, it could deliver a sound net positive effect.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: jtyangel on February 05, 2009, 01:23:17 PM
Hi-5. Well said. My sympathies lie with those in their 50s whose pensions are tied to the market. Because of tacit government endorsement, those guys were Enroned out of their retirements. Younger people will meke it up. The older workers prolly won't.

I think people in their younger to mid 30's will make it up. There are a small generation of us now in our late 30's and early 40's who are not in a position to save. The economy sucks and we have children still in the home. We also will have a very difficult time making up what we lost between lost jobs, market loss on 401ks and still having the responsibility of caring for the next generation down the pike. I always figured my generation would be the ones really out...big uncle zero will find some big pork bill at the end of his term to help out all the boomers and the Y and below have the time to earn up. Just give us our cup for change now and a few cans of dog food.  :censored: Nothing against those generations either, just ours doesn't have the voting #s so I know we will totally be the ones on the outs when push comes to shove.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: rich_t on February 05, 2009, 01:37:43 PM
Can we limit the salary of state govenors, city mayors and their respective legislators that have their hands out for bailout money too?

I think Rebel's assessment is pretty accurate.  Just look at what really happened with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that helped this whole mess get started.

For years the Republicans where complaining that tighter rules needed to be imposed, for years the Dems assured the country that nothing was wrong with them.  Then BAM they suddenly fail?  That didn't happen in a vacuum.

I also put some of the blame on the Republicans for failure to lead in the 6 years they were in charge.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: jtyangel on February 05, 2009, 02:59:14 PM
Can we limit the salary of state govenors, city mayors and their respective legislators that have their hands out for bailout money too?

I think Rebel's assessment is pretty accurate.  Just look at what really happened with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that helped this whole mess get started.

For years the Republicans where complaining that tighter rules needed to be imposed, for years the Dems assured the country that nothing was wrong with them.  Then BAM they suddenly fail?  That didn't happen in a vacuum.

I also put some of the blame on the Republicans for failure to lead in the 6 years they were in charge.

Hi 5
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Sam Adams on February 06, 2009, 05:39:49 AM
If anyone still doubted that the Democrat party HATES free enterprise...this removes any doubt that lingers.


Who the  :censored: is the Government to tell the CEO of a company what he can and can't make as a salary?

H5
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Sam Adams on February 06, 2009, 05:54:16 AM
What happened to the free enterprise system? Businesses that need government handouts to survive should be allowed to fail. And, yes, that's true even of companies whose problems can be traced back to government policies. (Almost any business can blame some government action for it's problems, because government has its nose in everything these days.) Any business that fails to take into account the impact of governmental policies on their bottom line is too stupid to live. If Exxon wants to invest in the oil fields in Venezuela just before Chavez nationalizes them, they can do that; just don't ask me to feel sorry for them. If the auto makers want to cave into every union demand and to build expensive gas hogs, they can go ahead; just don't ask me to pay for somebody else's party.

Don't think I don't have compassion on unemployed workers. I do. I also have compassion on the taxpayers, who pay the bill for misplaced compassion. And I have compassion for consumers when they pay higher prices because the government is proping up prices that should be falling, eg. domestic sugar prices.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 06, 2009, 06:39:38 AM
If anyone still doubted that the Democrat party HATES free enterprise...this removes any doubt that lingers.


Who the  :censored: is the Government to tell the CEO of a company what he can and can't make as a salary?

Yeah, and who the :censored: is the Government to tell the welfare queen she needs to buy groceries instead of crack?   :uhsure:

Same damn thing.  You take the money, you accept whatever conditions on your freedom of action the giver wants to make.  If that's unacceptable, don't take the money, it's basic contract principles at work.  I have no pity for them. 

And yes, Rebel, 50 million of sunk expense for only the intangible return of a supposedly-superior executive talent IS a significant hit on a 5 billion organization, when what he actually delivers is loserhood...it's one percent of the entire annual receipts for one guy who still fails. Wotta deal.  If he was bringing in positive growth AND gaining on the competition, he might be worth it.  It's not trivial, and that organization might as well replace the toilet paper in its bathrooms with rolls of one-dollar bills and let #2 drive the train, the net effect would be a gain.
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 06, 2009, 12:54:22 PM
The arrogance of this prick is astounding!

If W would have tried any of this shit, the left would have cut his balls off, but since now we have the Big O, everything's hunky dory!

Just frikkin' amazing!
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 06, 2009, 12:59:34 PM
I still have the memory of that dipshit Ranes telling congress everything was cool, nothing to worry about!

Lord what a lie that was. Then Shmucky Shumer and Dodd backed him up!

It's just frikkin ridiculous the public is so ignorant of the facts that led to this boondoggle!

As Rush says, "Ignorance within the voting public is the single worst liability in America today!"
Title: Re: Obama to detail further compensation limits
Post by: Airwolf on February 06, 2009, 10:13:05 PM
So when is Congress and the White House going totake Huge paycuts and stop with the taxpayer supported benifits? If everyones going to have to have a "Little skin in the game " then everyone should. I'd like to know how Big ears canjustify telling CEO's they get thier pay capped at 500K while he takes a 747 for a 100 mile trip to a meeting.